WARNING: THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THIS WILL MAKE YOU THROW UP

[Blayze]

<< that was pretty sick but i was surprised to notice that my gag reflexes weren't kicking in. i would hate to be the guy having to perform all those abortions. what a miserable job that must be. >>



I know what you mean. I would rather be a homeless drunk than do this job.

 

[Blayze]

I would like to think that my views would stay the same.

I do know that there are women with no hopes when it comes to a baby. They are out of work, on government money, and can hardly make it day by day.
Although even with &quot;no hope&quot; I still don't think that this is right.


Not trying to get into a huge argument or anything, but I believe that this is no different than if someone went down the street and shot a person because they didn't want them to be there.

 

[GoldenGuppy]

Horrible =( of course the purpose of these pics are to present the facts to the people who view them... so that people actually know what they are getting into when they are aborting.. those are probably worst-case scenario pics though - y'know the pics that are aimed to make people reconsider!

 

[tantos]

Pro-Choice here but please..why can't you just put on a damn condom and save everyone the hassle. I think people are pretty ignorant to have sex and not put on a condom. For less than a dollar, you can save yourself a whole lot of trouble later. Sex= responsibilty. But then again not everyone will be responsible but that's their choice. As for the webpage, I think I would like to know where these abortions are taking place also. It doesn't seem like anything that would be done in America, but then again it demonstrates the extreme sensationalism that Pro-Lifers often put up as scare tactics.
If you are so disgusted by abortions, then why don't you just adopt those babies?? Easy enough isn't it? Rhetoric is one thing, actions are another..I would like to see Pro-Lifers give of themselves by adopting these babies.

 

[pen^2]

yeah... how many of you that say adoption is way to go ACTUALLY adopted a single child???
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exactly. abortion is a necessary evil, the last resort, however necessary. as for fetus being a human being, lets all agree that is matter of OPINION. there is no scientific definition that describes what a 'human being' is. i personally think a fetus has to be born and seperated from the mother to be called a human being, but we all have opinions. sure, the pictures are pretty disgusting i suppose (didnt look, why bother? i know what would be there) but killings are just disgusting period. you think butchering cows would have been a pretty sight?

 

[JohnnyKnoxville]

MMMM Yummy sugar candy babies.
Those pictures are not real kiddies,can you say PHOTOSHOP 5.0

 

[StageLeft]

Reading this thread (not the pictures but the thread) I've been forced to lean a little towards pro-life from my pro-choice argument. Listening to both sides at least in this thread the pro-choice people just seem a bit whiney and selfish compared to the pro-life.

iamawiz

I am the average youth of today. I am apathetic. I have been through enough in my life to not let others choose what i do.

The only thing worse than being apathetic is admitting it and then doing nothing about it. Later on you say its good that you can admit you're selfish. This realization is worthless if you take no action against it. I used to feel like punching my younger brother out when he'd say &quot;I'm lazy, thats just how it is.&quot;. Its not an affliction - and I've been very lazy in the past. You CAN do something about it. Its not cancer. If you think something about yourself sucks, then work on it.

I don't know what you've really been through but if you're like the average teen who thinks they've been through a lot you haven't been through anything yet I don't want to jump down your throat and I don't disagree with everything you said, but you really should try to put your life in perspective and realize that you're much better off than millions of other people in your same country.

 

[frizzlefry]

<< i would hate to be the guy having to perform all those abortions. what a miserable job that must be. >>



My sister is a OBGYN and one of the more elite hospitals in the country. during her internship, she was party to several abortions. Now keep in mind, all of them have to go through this. This is probably one of the most distrubing things that she has ever been a witness too. After her first one, she could not help but cry and lament over the fact that as a physician, she was party to a death of a human being, not by accident or unpreventable but by want of the patient. I am not here to justify abortions or pro-life.

But there are many cases where the fetus has to be aborted either to save the mother's life or other complications. some of the pictures you view on this subject may be from &quot;abortions&quot; but they may not all occur from those that willfully abort their fetus. From her stories to me, she had to perform several abortions based on the fact that either the fetur had expired within the womb, and the only way to get it out is to perform an abortion. In these instances, when the fetus is unable to be 'pulled' from the body, it has to be dismembered in order for removal. What I'm trying to say here is that yes it is distrubing to look at, but don't take everything you see or read at face value. Comign from a brother that has been a constant punching bag of sorts for all the hell my sister has to go through on a daily basis for stillborns or other mishaps, who are you guys to say that this is 'wrong' when you don't know where these pictures really came from. Also, take into account that when a mother's life is at risk, in most instances, they will have an ethics comittee review the situation before deciding which option to take.

although I am distrubed by these pictures and have had the displeasure of witnessing such actions, i do not believe it is wrong. I cannot form a true opinion about those pictures because i do not know where they were taken. But in most instances i would support those actions taken by these physicians because you ahve to understand the moral issues here and the Oath that these physicians take and the contradictions that occur on a daily basis.

Correct me if I am wrong but what is the number one occupation with the most number of suicides. If physicians is not number one, its at least top 5

just my opinion.

 

[cybertainment]

damn....thats sick

 

[kcklla]

Well what did you all think happens in an abortion. All the people that are on here that are pro-choice did you think it was somthing pretty or something. I think everyone that has an abortion should HAVE to watch what really happens to these babies.

 

[WordSmith2000]

HEY MODS I want to know why it is ok to put links up showing atrocities committed against helpless children, and it is NOT ok to put up links showing people killed by the Japanese.

Your bias makes me more ill than the pictures.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

bias my ass! Pictures of people killed by Japanese are real pictures of horrid attrocities. After all, they're human. These babies? Nah, they're not babies -they're a &quot;fetus.&quot; It's not like they'll grow up into a human or anything. It's like killing an animal -no one who's important really cares right??

:|

Abortion makes me sick.

 

[shiner]

Don't get me wrong, I know that abortions are sometimes necessary in order to save the life of the mother or in an instance where the fetus may already be dead. However most people use abortion as a form or birth control rather than taking precautions before hand. That is simply wrong and needs to be stopped.

 

[rc5]

ahhhh, that's freakin sick pic.

Now, imagine those messes all come from women's wombs.

Ladies, you know what inside your body now...

 

[Murphyrulez]

I just read in USA Today that a man is in jail for mixing a chemical used by veterinarians to abort animals in with his girlfriends drink to make her lose her baby. He is charged with &quot;Second Degree Abortion&quot;.

So now abortion is a crime.?.?

Interesting...

Paul

 

[classy]

Those pictures are awful, but a few things. Most of those fetus's are into or well into the third tri-mester. Which I agree should not be aborted because they are so developed. Second those pictures are no different than when certain organizations show you pictures of starving children. That is the effect but not the cause. Abortion I believe in some instances is needed. I shutter to think of the lives of little children that are born in situations where they are at a point they really have no chance at life. Those pictures are tragic but don't tell the whole story.

 

[Wedesdo]

more extremist propaganda...

 

[TheBullGod]

I didn't read the whole thread, but I've read a similiar thread elsewhere, and what people fail to realize is a lot of abortions are for many other reasons then just because people didn't take any precautions. What about people that were raped?? What about if the woman has an extremely high chance of dying while giving birth?? What if the baby has something severly wrong with it that it will die with in a few minutes of being born?? Sometimes you gotta look at all the angles. Don't just look at the pictures in a book, read the text.

 

[LadyTech]

For anyone of you out here with an unwanted baby, give it to me, please. I don't care
if it's orange, purple, blue, coke addicted, deformed, 4 heads and 3 feet!! I could provide it a very loving and supportive home with the best of everything... unfortunately, I'll
never get that chance...adoption?? yeah right...I'd be 60 by the time I'd come to the top of the list, then be deemed too old to adopt... nothing is worse than wanting a child so badly and finding you cannot, and then have your best friend abort hers because it was &quot;inconvenient&quot;..

 

[Raspewtin]

interesting site. i have seen similar pictures before which is why i guess i wasn't as shocked as i was epecting. if you want to see really gross pictures, look at reconstructive pictures of people who lose elbows sticking them out car doors. after seeing that stuff i don't put any part of my arm out the window :Q pro-choice here!




<< For anyone of you out here with an unwanted baby, give it to me, please >>



Why are you at the bottom of the list? foreign countries may be the answer.

 

[aniki]

Don't kill a baby because you made a mistake.

 

[hpkeeper]

Yeah... abortion may be &quot;sick&quot; and &quot;cruel&quot;, but it's still legal... I'm pretty much pro-choice under certain circumstances... for instance... if the baby is going to be born with a disability or is going to be born as a result of rape then I think it's alright, but if you are having an abortion because you where banging and you didn't use the proper protection, then I think it should be illegal, but these pictures do not disturb me... what did you think an aborted baby would come out looking like...? if you cleaned off the blood and had an actual good photographer it wouldn't be as gruesome as people make it out to be.

 

[rudder]

Viper, what if you're a crack-whore and your baby is going to most likely be born a cocaine-addict with AIDS?

skoorb,

Luckily there are still people in this world that would take that baby and love it and give it a good life while it is alive. And hopefully people like that will always be around or this world would be truly screwed up.

And iamwiz82,

Lets say your girlfriend did get pregnant, would it not be a better choice to have the baby and find someone to adopt it? At least there are fewer regrets that way and the mother could always &quot;undo&quot; her decision. I am searching for a link on a story I read a while back. It discussed how mothers who have undergone abortions have a tendency to feel a lot of guilt and remorse later in life.

 

[OutHouse]

My wife and i were pro-choice until we had our first child, after 5 years of marriage. She is now 8 and watching her growup is a wonderful thing. When I look back and review our careless additude with abortion I get angry with myself. Babies are human, you made it take responsiablity! The baby didnt ask you to take the romp in the back seat of the car. The baby should not have to pay with its life for your lack of responsability.

Next year send your mom a mothers day card, she was pro-life.

 

[Fangorn]

Just adding my two cents.

The responsibility of raising and caring for a child is something a 14 or a 15 year old is simply incapable of delivering. Puberty and adolescence is a rough enough time for both boys and girls without adding other complicating factors such as a child. My wife is an obstetrics &amp; gynecology resident, and she tells me stories about the KIDS in their midteens coming in to have their babies with her mother along for support. I'm trying to stress the noted absence of the male partner here. The world is ruled by C students, and I don't think the portion of the population that would &quot;appreciate&quot; the debate we're having here regularly have the oppportunity to read forums like this.

As for when the moment of conception occurs, here's some facts for you. A fetus' nervous system is well developed as it enters the second trimester. In Canada, third trimester abortions are illegal. The upper limit of one's &quot;ability&quot; to have an abortion almost disappears after twenty weeks. For fetuses which aren't aborted, per se, but delivered prematurely in the 24th week, 10% of these infants can survive. Fetuses with 28 full weeks of gestation survive 75% of the time, and infants born after this time all virtually survive. Of course, these fetuses born in their 2nd trimester (including these 24 and 28-weeker stats I've provided) all require neonatal intensive care support. So just think about this the next time you hear someone you know had an abortion into the 5th or even the 6th month. That fetus they just aborted had a good shot at living.