Warning: Crysis 3 Will Melt Your PC, Says Crytek

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Haserath

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LOL no...the below graph is averages. minimums are much lower for sure.

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I looked up the review and it only had an i7 920@3.8. SB or IB overclocked should give loads more.
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I did see that tech demo and it has impressive visuals. My card is going to be playing this on medium if I decide to get it.

It takes more than a tessellated toad to truly impress me thoroughly though.
 

StrangerGuy

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Eye candy is one thing, whether its worth playing is another.

One of my problems with Crysis is it gets visually tiring after a while when everything just seems to blend into each other. Which is also why I loved Source because the object edges are very clear cut.
 

WMD

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It will melt your PC but the PS3/ XBOX360 which is weaker than a 5 years old 4670 ago will run it fine.
 

toyota

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It will melt your PC but the PS3/ XBOX360 which is weaker than a 5 years old 4670 ago will run it fine.
well sure at 720 with mostly low settings which is worse than what the 4670 can do.
 

RussianSensation

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You need to play more games.
Artistic quality > programming.

Did you play Trine 2, Rayman Origins, Limbo, Braid, Botanicula, Machinarium, World of Goo, Borderlands, maybe Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2?

It will melt your PC but the PS3/ XBOX360 which is weaker than a 5 years old 4670 ago will run it fine.

Crysis 2 ran in DX9 at only 1152x720 on the PS3. It's not the same workload or graphics quality running Crysis 3 on a PC with DX11, all its effects, high resolution textures, etc. You should check out Dark Souls on PS3/360 vs. PC and then you'll realize how the consoles actually appear to be good, but upon closer inspection they are only rendering that game at 1024x720 and still dip to 15 fps in Blight town. Crysis 3 on the console will look nothing like the PC version I bet.
 
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moonbogg

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I can see the game being either good or bad. If it is worthy of a true pc gamers adoration, I'll probably jump on dual 780's provided this game has the heart and soul of far cry and crysis.
 

HeXen

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:p:biggrin:

Tessellated vegetation, leaf by leaf. :cool:

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Tessellated frogs......oh ya, come at me bro!!

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:D, add in millions of particles (maybe via PhysX ala Mafia II), DOF, real-time volumetric fog/shadows, global lighting and multiple area lights, GPU cloth and vegetation physics, and it's going to be like Metro DOF + Mafia II PhysX + Unigine Heaven extreme tessellation on 'roids.

This game is all in on Kepler architecture's strengths. Let's lift the hood shall we:

Extreme tessellation - check
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GPU cloth - check
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Lots and lots of particles - check
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Crysis 3 - CryEngine3 Tech Trailer

NV is gonna sell a lot of GTX780 SLI setups with this game. This game just might be Kepler's time to show us what it's got.

Too bad the actual game won't look that good nor be moddable to such. I remember some miraculously good engine tech demo's before that never looked like that in any game that used the same engine.
Even the last U3 tech demo, looks amazing, they say any developer could do that right now...yet here we are.
 

cmdrdredd

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Too bad the actual game won't look that good nor be moddable to such. I remember some miraculously good engine tech demo's before that never looked like that in any game that used the same engine.
Even the last U3 tech demo, looks amazing, they say any developer could do that right now...yet here we are.

I'm only guessing but a developer has to balance gameplay experience with graphics. I'm not talking about making the game fun, I mean making it actually playable. I wonder how playable a game like Batman would be if it looked as good as the UE3 tech demos with all the physx. As it is, Physx really puts a performance hit on the framerate sometimes and I wonder if it would even be very playable.
 

blackened23

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I am still not impressed. There's games I think look better. Also run better too.

I'd like to know what you consider better out of curiosity. Crysis was pretty groundbreaking when it was released in 2007, it was miles ahead of everything else IMO. The problem was with crysis 2 which looked good but gameplay wise was a huge step backwards from crysis 1 / WH. It was nearly as bad as Dragon Age 2 (also a letdown) compared to Dragon Age: Origins.

Despite what some say here it did not run bad either, I played through it completely on my system at the time - keep in mind that most people didn't max it out -- but you could play it at medium settings 1024x768 or 1280x1024 (common resolutions back then) just fine.
 

cmdrdredd

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I'd like to know what you consider better out of curiosity. Crysis was pretty groundbreaking when it was released in 2007, it was miles ahead of everything else IMO. The problem was with crysis 2 which looked good but gameplay wise was a huge step backwards from crysis 1 / WH. It was nearly as bad as Dragon Age 2 (also a letdown) compared to Dragon Age: Origins.

Despite what some say here it did not run bad either, I played through it completely on my system at the time - keep in mind that most people didn't max it out -- but you could play it at medium settings 1024x768 or 1280x1024 (common resolutions back then) just fine.

Medium is crap to me. If I want medium I play console games.

Better looking game? Battlefield 3, I think crysis 2 also looks better than the first. Gameplay does not matter for this discussion btw.

Its very subjective though. I just think it has been surpassed in many ways.
 
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Crysis was impressive, but I was also "Wowed" by the lighting and especially dynamic lighting on particles and its contribution to immersion of BF3.

Physics is a major factor to aide immersion. See that wonderful looking tree? Well, shoot it, it sways, splinters, and eventually snaps. This is part of the immersion. What about an exploding tank leaving a huge smoke column that gets dynamically lit by nearby fires or other explosions? Small things like this contribute greatly to the overall scene.

As much as high-res textures, millions of polygons and shader filters can achieve, without good physics and lighting, it all feels artificial and dead.

The problem with these is its hard to represent in a screenshot, one has to play the game to appreciate these subtleties. The drawback are these features tend to require a lot of GPU power for "minimal" gains.
 

OVerLoRDI

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Crysis 1 at 60 fps minimum? Ya probably in 2015.

I have to wonder if the DX9 API will become a reason that Crysis never really becomes buttery perfectly smooth at max details. This is pure conjecture btw, so I might be wrong:

1. GPU architects and driver teams will stop optimizing for DX9
2. DX9 is a pretty old API:

First DX9 game
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Crysis:
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It is shocking to me that those are both on the same API.

Yes Crysis supports DX10 (at a performance penalty, for virtually the same IQ) but that API will soon be in the same boat as DX9 simple because it never really caught on.

Just my ponderings on the issue.
 

blackened23

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Medium is crap to me. If I want medium I play console games.

Better looking game? Battlefield 3, I think crysis 2 also looks better than the first. Gameplay does not matter for this discussion btw.

Its very subjective though. I just think it has been surpassed in many ways.

You are talking about a game that was released in 2011. Crysis had no rival in 2007, were you a PC gamer back then as well? If you're complaining about high system requirements I bet you didn't play ID software games back in the day. Doom 1, doom 2, and quake made people go out and upgrade their computers. Crysis didn't even push the envelope as much as ID software did.

I still stand by the statement, no game in 2007 came close to crysis, it was a gamechanger. And a fantastic game as well. I personally don't care for bf3, i'm sick of military shooters because they are overdone. Thats beside the point though, bf3 is a 2011 game and crysis 1 had no rival in 2007 - it was a game changer, period. Crysis also still looks good to this day, something I can definitely NOT say for any other PC game released in 2007.
 

aaksheytalwar

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Honestly, I still feel Crysis has better visuals than Crysis 2 or even bf3. Crysis and bf3 are both good in terms of graphics but I prefer Crysis to other games. And this is without mods.

It is the only game perhaps in history which doesn't run maxed out at 60 fps even without AA at 1440p even five years after its release. That time high end cards were 1900xt with 8800 series around the corner. Those cards could just play at 10x7 med.

When did you last see a game which runs at 16x10 med on a 7970?
 

RussianSensation

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Borderlands and World of Goo. Machinarium I didn't like. Why do you ask?

You mentioned you liked artistic games and I listed some that I thought were artistic and may interest you. Rayman Origins is awesome. :cool:

I'm only guessing but a developer has to balance gameplay experience with graphics. I'm not talking about making the game fun, I mean making it actually playable. I wonder how playable a game like Batman would be if it looked as good as the UE3 tech demos with all the physx. As it is, Physx really puts a performance hit on the framerate sometimes and I wonder if it would even be very playable.

This. Technically the tech is there to have a fully tessellated Gotham City in Batman AC as NV showcased in their Endless City Tessellation Demo. The thing is the game would be totally unplayable if such a high level of geometry was implemented on current hardware. It's not that Crytek cannot make Crysis 3 look even better but then it would not play on any PC system in existence. They should push the envelope enough but not to the point that the game runs at 13 fps on a GTX680. They could add PhysX and tessellate the entire vegetation, concrete/dam, trees, ground/rocks, etc. add facial animations and more realistic human skin on characters, add 50,000 individual hair strands that would react to wind on character models like NV did with the new Dawn demo. An entire game in that form would be totally unplayable for 4-5 years+. Adding that level of detail would cost millions of dollars in programming and artistic fees I bet.

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And then you get 25 fps performance on a $1000 GPU setup, that's without PhysX or any other characters on screen.

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I still stand by the statement, no game in 2007 came close to crysis, it was a gamechanger. Thats beside the point though, bf3 is a 2011 game and crysis 1 had no rival in 2007 - it was a game changer, period. Crysis also still looks good to this day, something I can definitely NOT say for any other PC game released in 2007.

BF3 is nothing compared to what Crysis did for PC gaming. BF3 could be erased entirely from the history of PC gaming, because its greatest impact was in character animations, lighting model and overall gameplay, not graphics. The physics model in BF3 is not dynamic like it is in Red Faction Guerilla. BF3 wouldn't matter at all once BF4 launches. Crysis 1 will forever be in the pantheon of monumental graphical achievements in PC gaming along with Unreal, Far Cry and other such games that revolutionized the PC gaming visuals. What Crysis did when it launched is set the bar sooooooo high that it took until Metro 2033 to even come close and then 5, 5 years later, only a handful of games even come close to the graphical quality of Crysis:

- BF3, Metro 2033, Witcher 2, maybe STALKER with some cinematic mods. I am running out of more games. All these new games like Sleeping Dogs, Dirt Showdown, Sniper Elite all look like garbage in comparison to the 2007 Crysis and all run worse.

I don't put Crysis 2 anywhere near Crysis 1. It's almost a 4-year newer game and looks worse in many regards, especially the lens flares, textures and physics model is nowhere near the level of Crysis 1.

Right now Crysis 1 with mods is still the best looking FPS game.

Crysis 1 without mods
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Crysis 1 with mods
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Crysis 2
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Crysis 2 is not impressive to me graphically in any way at all. It looks like a typical console game. In fact changing the quality from High to Ultra/Extreme hardly changes the look of the game, if anything it makes it blurry because of FXAA post-processing.
 
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