Warning: Crysis 3 Will Melt Your PC, Says Crytek

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moonbogg

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TF2 still looks better in an artistic way. Just cause 2 looks great and runs MUCH better. Modern games look comparable while running much, much faster. Some modern games look better while running much much faster, and yes, BF3 is one of them. Mass Effect games looks very good while running infinitely faster. Skyrim with mods looks much better and runs much better. Something about Crysis makes it run like crap and its unjustified with today's hardware.
 

2is

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Alan Wake and BF3 look better and run better. Crysis is just poorly optimized and always was. No reason for any modern rig to struggle with it if they knew how to use the CPUs cores properly.

You keep saying this and it's still wrong. It doens't need anymore CPU power, it's all GPU bound. I'm not certain what it is about this concept you don't get. If it used 4 cores it would run just the same.
 

Jaydip

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I think Witcher 2 can give Crysis a good challenge.Its one of the best looking games I have ever played.
 

toyota

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TF2 still looks better in an artistic way. Just cause 2 looks great and runs MUCH better. Modern games look comparable while running much, much faster. Some modern games look better while running much much faster, and yes, BF3 is one of them. Mass Effect games looks very good while running infinitely faster. Skyrim with mods looks much better and runs much better. Something about Crysis makes it run like crap and its unjustified with today's hardware.

and if you think Mass Effect games look good then you truly have some problem with your vision. I fired up the ME 3 demo the other day and was appalled by just how ugly and visually outdated the game looked.
 

VulgarDisplay

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and if you think Mass Effect games look good then you truly have some problem with your vision. I fired up the ME 3 demo the other day and was appalled by just how ugly and visually outdated the game looked.

I remember the demo, and I remember the game. It was like the part of the game in the demo had smaller textures to helpt he download and they didn't fix it in game. The rest of the game looked far better.

It struck me as strange when I played throught he full game how bad the beginning looked compared to the rest of it.
 

aaksheytalwar

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Bf3 runs at 60-90 fps on a single 7970 oc maxed out at 1080p 4x msaa or 1440p no msaa. 1080p 4x msaa is lighter and faster. But Crysis is better looking,
 

RussianSensation

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I think Witcher 2 can give Crysis a good challenge.Its one of the best looking games I have ever played.

Ya, but now look at the performance, 27 fps on a GTX580!

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And :eek: at the Mass Effect 3 looks amazing comment.

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Moonbogg is just upset Crysis 1 / Warhead still owns his GTX670s. This is a 2007 game that still hasn't been convincingly dethroned by anything made in 2011-2012. Some games have better lighting like BF3 and so on but overall, no game is actually much better.

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2is

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Ya, but now look at the performance, 27 fps on a GTX580!

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And :eek: at the Mass Effect 3 looks amazing comment.

Even more evidence that the performance in Crysis isn't due to "bad coding" but the fact it really is that demanding. It would be one thing of Witcher 2 look as or more amazing while still providing much better performance, but that's clearly not the case.

That said, I have Witcher 2 in my backlog... Can't wait to get started on it as soon as I'm done with Batman AC
 

Red Hawk

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TF2 still looks better in an artistic way. Just cause 2 looks great and runs MUCH better. Modern games look comparable while running much, much faster. Some modern games look better while running much much faster, and yes, BF3 is one of them. Mass Effect games looks very good while running infinitely faster. Skyrim with mods looks much better and runs much better. Something about Crysis makes it run like crap and its unjustified with today's hardware.

Uh, no. The Mass Effect games have terribly low-resolution textures and poorly implemented effects. Shadows glitch and twitch while the depth of field effect blurs out nearly everything (and there's no native AA). Mass Effect and Skyrim's physics systems are pathetic compared to Crysis. I've never played JC2, and while you can say that Team Fortress 2 looks better, that would be on an aesthetic level and not a graphical, technical level (heck, Legend of Zelda: The Windwaker looks better than 90% of games made nowadays, but no one would presume to say its engine is better than modern games or anything).

What makes Crysis run like crap is simply the fact that it has a lot more effects and detail than most games today even try (thanks to targeting consoles). And from personal experience it doesn't feel like it runs like crap; even playing it at 20 fps on my 5770 it feels relatively smooth.
 

2is

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Thanks for those screen shots. I've read a few people say it doesn't make much difference but I can certainly see the difference with Uber Sampling. The tree on the right (left also, but more noticable on the right IMO) and the sword are both far more detailed in the UQ screenshot. I'll be getting my money's worth out of this 680 real soon, and then with Crysis 3 to follow.
 

blackened23

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TF2 still looks better in an artistic way. Just cause 2 looks great and runs MUCH better. Modern games look comparable while running much, much faster. Some modern games look better while running much much faster, and yes, BF3 is one of them. Mass Effect games looks very good while running infinitely faster. Skyrim with mods looks much better and runs much better. Something about Crysis makes it run like crap and its unjustified with today's hardware.

Did you really mention Mass Effect 3 in graphics comparison? TF2?

I can't tell if you're serious or just really screwing with us
 

happysmiles

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TF2 looks good in it's artistic direction goes so well with source (same with dota 2) not because of the amount of shaders, diffusal lighting and res of the textures etc.

To me, Crysis 3 is Crytek learning from their mistakes with C2.
I just hope it runs nicely on my PC :)
 

Spjut

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I liked Far Cry 2's tech, DX10/10.1 was shown to perform a bit better than DX9 IIRC, and it was also shown to take advantage of more than 2 cores. And in due time we'll have it improved in FC3.

One thing I've never liked though with Crysis and Warhead is that they don't use more than 2 cores. That has hurt older/slower quads like the Phenom 1/2 and Core 2 Quad. Its DX10 support was also questionable.

For all how good TW2 looks, I've always disliked it for being DX9. It was a high-end game, it was EXCLUSIVE for the PC and it required DX10 cards as the minimum, yet it was still only DX9.
 

Red Storm

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I still think Crysis 1 is the best looking game ever. It's easy to shrink the world down to the size of a corridor and make something look nearly as good, but show me an open world that compares to Crysis 1.
 

MTDEW

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I still think Crysis 1 is the best looking game ever. It's easy to shrink the world down to the size of a corridor and make something look nearly as good, but show me an open world that compares to Crysis 1.
My thoughts also.
The Witcher 2 is a great game, with good graphics but comparing it to Crysis 1 is a waste of time IMO since it does not have anywhere near the draw distance as Crysis 1, very few games do.
 

Insomniator

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LOL @ mentioning TF2 and ME3.

I fired up Crysis a few weeks ago and it still looks great, but definitely dated in some areas. Overall however I never thought the game to be poorly coded... it runs well on my GTX470 and looks better than anything else I've ran on this card. If there were other games now (and at the time) that blew this game away graphically while running like butter on the same systems then yeah that would be poor but I never saw that to be the case.

I WILL be upgrading my computer for C3 if it indeed is another ground breaker.... I didn't have the money back then... poor college kid with a 6600GT. THIS TIME HOWEVER....
 

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and if you think Mass Effect games look good then you truly have some problem with your vision. I fired up the ME 3 demo the other day and was appalled by just how ugly and visually outdated the game looked.

The first level looks bad. But the second level looks great. Much better lighting and textures.
 

WMD

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I liked Far Cry 2's tech, DX10/10.1 was shown to perform a bit better than DX9 IIRC, and it was also shown to take advantage of more than 2 cores. And in due time we'll have it improved in FC3.

One thing I've never liked though with Crysis and Warhead is that they don't use more than 2 cores. That has hurt older/slower quads like the Phenom 1/2 and Core 2 Quad. Its DX10 support was also questionable.

For all how good TW2 looks, I've always disliked it for being DX9. It was a high-end game, it was EXCLUSIVE for the PC and it required DX10 cards as the minimum, yet it was still only DX9.

Farcry 2 dx10 does perform better than dx9 but that was because the vegetation on dx10 mode is much less dense than in dx9 mode.
 

Blitzvogel

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LOL @ mentioning TF2 and ME3.

I fired up Crysis a few weeks ago and it still looks great, but definitely dated in some areas.

I remember running it on.....

C2D 2.26 GHz, Geforce 9800M GS 512 MB, 4 GB DDR2-800 = Smooth 30 FPS high DX9 or 10 settings at 720p, on a late 2008 laptop no less!

Athlon II x2 3.0 GHz, Radeon 4670 1 GB, 2 GB DDR3-1333, WinXP = Smooth 30 FPS DX9 at 720p. (I miss the 4670, what a great and cheap card!)

AMD laptop A6-w/e quad core APU, 6520G Graphics, 2 x 4 GB DDR3-1333, Win7 64 = Smooth 30 FPS DX9 720p with medium settings and some high (texturing). I certainly did not expect an APU, a low speed laptop version no less (even if it's turbo was 2.1 GHz), to pull this kind of performance off.

DX9 720p high settings are Crysis' definite sweet spot in terms of affordable performance and graphics. It's a highly accessible point of visuals that looks awesome, but doesn't require overkill graphics.
 

Jaydip

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My thoughts also.
The Witcher 2 is a great game, with good graphics but comparing it to Crysis 1 is a waste of time IMO since it does not have anywhere near the draw distance as Crysis 1, very few games do.
Crysis really looks spectacular in outdoor, some of the indoor textures are quite crappy.Witcher 2 on the other hand looks gorgeous throughout.I don't want to start a debate here but to me Witcher 2 is more visually appalling.A five year old game which can compete with modern games visually shows its real strength though.
 

moonbogg

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The article mentions that PC hardware is leaps beyond consoles and the gap is widened with Kepler since crysis 2. A single 670/680 can barely run crysis 2 with mods, so this means that crysis 3 simply won't run. Wow, thats pretty exciting. Sounds like it just might be like Crysis 1. Wake me up in 6 years when theres a GPU that can run it.
Making a new game that looks great is one thing, but making a game that simply can't be run properly for 6 years? Thats just retarded.
 

2is

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The article mentions that PC hardware is leaps beyond consoles and the gap is widened with Kepler since crysis 2. A single 670/680 can barely run crysis 2 with mods, so this means that crysis 3 simply won't run. Wow, thats pretty exciting. Sounds like it just might be like Crysis 1. Wake me up in 6 years when theres a GPU that can run it.
Making a new game that looks great is one thing, but making a game that simply can't be run properly for 6 years? Thats just retarded.

I ran crysis when it first came out. You're confusing being able to run the game with being able to max it out. There's a HUGE difference. Not differentiating between the two is what's retarded.
 

Lonbjerg

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I ran crysis when it first came out. You're confusing being able to run the game with being able to max it out. There's a HUGE difference. Not differentiating between the two is what's retarded.

Most people don't get it.
Just like they don't get the engine...and start with FUD like "unoptimized"...due to a hurt e-peen....
 
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