Warm your car up in the morning....get a Ticket!

conjur

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http://www.wave3.com/Global/story.asp?S=1636399&nav=0RZEKhbt

Louisville Police Plan to Ticket Cars Left to Warm Up

(LOUISVILLE, Ky., February 9, 2004, 11:00 am) -- Louisville Metro Police are planning to enforce a rarely used law that could leave some drivers out in the cold.

The department says it will ticket drivers who leave their cars running while they are not inside. The practice, common during frigid temperatures when drivers allow cars to warm up, violates an oft-ignored state law and city ordinance, police say.

Police say they hope enforcing the law will decrease the number of vehicles stolen.

In the past three weeks a period of occasional frigid temperatures, snow and an ice storm 47 idling, unlocked cars have been taken from driveways and apartment and business parking lots in metro Louisville. That's more than 40 percent of the nearly 120 vehicles stolen in that period, almost a 10-percentage-point jump over what police say they typically see in winter.

"People say, 'I was only gone five minutes,' " said Capt. Steve Thompson, commander of the crime analysis unit. "But I know thieves who can steal a car without the keys in it in 30 seconds. Now when the keys are in it ... it's a made-to-order crime for a thief. It's shopping in a baited field."

Stephanie Olliges' Ford Explorer was stolen on a cold Jan. 6 when she left it to warm up in the parking lot while she ate lunch in her south Louisville apartment.

"When I went outside, my car was just gone. I'm like, 'Did I park it somewhere else?' You just don't think that's going to happen," Olliges said.

Police say it's tough to find a stolen vehicle and in these cases, the thefts occur so quickly that victims generally aren't even able to tell authorities in which direction their vehicles headed.

Police officers will ticket cars they see running and unattended when time allows and that can include in private driveways and parking lots. Police also said locking the doors on an unattended vehicle is not sufficient to avoid a ticket.

A violation means a $25 fine from the city, a $102.50 fine from state-imposed court costs, and a possible fine from the judge in the case, court officials said.

(Copyright 2004 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
 

Fausto

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"We're going to ticket you, but it's for your own good."
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Confused

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I only leave it running while i'm de-icing the windows, when I am actually directly outside the car.

I never see why people start their cars then go inside :confused:
 

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I'm fine with this. I got ticketed for parking my car in a parking lot and checking on an amp in the back of my car. I don't think I left the car on (couldn't remember), but the cop said I did. Since I had the key in the ignition and I was out of the car, I was responsible. My only ticket ever, and a costly $50 mistake.
 

HyTekJosh

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I am sure if you have a real remote car starter you won't have any problems, because the car can still be locked and running...
 

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Originally posted by: Fausto
"We're going to ticket you, but it's for your own good."
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it prevents crime, just like other laws.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: HyTekJosh
I am sure if you have a real remote car starter you won't have any problems, because the car can still be locked and running...

Or a separate key. Start the car, lock it, get back in with your 2nd key ;)
 
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I have a remote starter. If someone does break in, and it is running without the key in it, the second they touch a pedal, the car shuts off.
 

TheKub

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: HyTekJosh
I am sure if you have a real remote car starter you won't have any problems, because the car can still be locked and running...

Or a separate key. Start the car, lock it, get back in with your 2nd key ;)



Police also said locking the doors on an unattended vehicle is not sufficient to avoid a ticket.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: TheKub
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: HyTekJosh
I am sure if you have a real remote car starter you won't have any problems, because the car can still be locked and running...

Or a separate key. Start the car, lock it, get back in with your 2nd key ;)



Police also said locking the doors on an unattended vehicle is not sufficient to avoid a ticket.

I suck at teh reading.

:confused:






:D
 

Viper GTS

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Oh, on a side note...

Anyone who leaves their car unattended, running, & unlocked is a friggin' moron.

Insurance companies should be able to deny comprehensive claims for that.

"What's that, you don't have your keys anymore? No claim for you!"

You wouldn't leave a bag full of cash in your driveway, why would you leave a running vehicle?

Hell, at least with the bag of cash they'd have to physically carry it away.

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Nitemare

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
The article explicitly says that locked vehicles won't be exempt...

Viper GTS

So another revenue generator...

Man leaves car idling, car gets stolen, man files police report, police report says that keys left in ignition and car unlocked, man files report with insurance, insurance rejects the claim due to customer negligence, man never does this again.

What's wrong with the above model?
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: ShotgunSteve
So what if it's running with no keys in it?

My guess would be the law they're using has nothing to do with whether or not the vehicle is locked, unlocked, has keys, etc.

It probably just forbids unattended running vehicles.

Viper GTS
 

Mermaidman

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Charlotte says it's going to enforce the same. I bet the cops hate it--Who wants to go on "Unattended Running Car Patrol?"
 

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Everytime I see someone doing that, I shout "free car" and run towards it. The person generally gets back in shuts it off. Then he/she comes back with a coat and just drives where he/she wanted to go in the first place.

I never understand the logic of going out without a coat and freeze, just to warm up your car so you won't get cold. It doesn't make sense to get cold so you can avoid the cold. Plus why waste all the gas?
 
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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteve
So what if it's running with no keys in it?

My guess would be the law they're using has nothing to do with whether or not the vehicle is locked, unlocked, has keys, etc.

It probably just forbids unattended running vehicles.

Viper GTS

There would be riots up here. More people have command start than don't, and no one wants to sit in their car waiting for it to warm up at fifty below zero. :p
 

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Fausto
"We're going to ticket you, but it's for your own good."
rolleye.gif
it prevents crime, just like other laws.
And is a good municiple money-maker, just like a lot of other bylaws.
 

Nitemare

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I wonder if this counts towards police cars as well?

Saw one parked in a fire zone running unattended while the owner was inside chatting with his buddy, the supermarket cop a few weeks back.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
I wonder if this counts towards police cars as well?

Saw one parked in a fire zone running unattended while the owner was inside chatting with his buddy, the supermarket cop a few weeks back.

HA! That would be sweet! "Citizen Ticketing!"
 

Mookow

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Fausto
"We're going to ticket you, but it's for your own good."
rolleye.gif

it prevents crime, just like other laws.

People should be punished for their stupidity, but this is just a city trying to make some $$ by telling people it is for their own good. Fining them is just another way of taxing them, and lets face it we already have a tax for stupidity; it is called the lottery.
 

DougK62

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Nitemare
I wonder if this counts towards police cars as well?

Saw one parked in a fire zone running unattended while the owner was inside chatting with his buddy, the supermarket cop a few weeks back.

HA! That would be sweet! "Citizen Ticketing!"

Yeah cops leave their cars running ALL THE TIME. Just another law that cops are exempt from...