Warm: TDK 16x10x40 VeloCD CD-RW Available for Pre-Order $232

[divinemartyr]

Just a few months ago 12x burners excited us, and now the 16x burners are starting to surface. This is the first one I've found available to order (with the exception of the Yamaha which is only partial 16x for lack of a better way to describe it) and you can get it here:

TDK VeloCD 16x10x40

Rips audio at 32x straight out of the box, as well as burning at 16x. I have the 12x10x32 model and I love it.

You can get a $30 off coupon for buy.com from this website.

divinemartyr

 

[mHubs]

but does it have burnproof? thats all that matters, cuz if it doesnt, it just about as good(bad) as the yamaha burner..

 

[Ogewo]

YES it does have Burnproof! 32x DAE too

Availble currently at bestbuy B&M for sure, i've seen 'em

 

[extro]

Yes it has burnproof according to the specifications page.
Specifications

I saw it at Best Buy also, but it was expensive, around $280 if I remember correctly.

 

[Str8UpKiller]

Weird.. TDK beat Plextor to the 16. I know this is simply just a rebadged Plex drive but you'd think that Plextor would release their own first then TDK after just like they did with the 12 speed drive. I've heard rumors that Plextor may be skipping the 16 altogether and releasing a 20 speed soon. I've heard that they already have this drive done basically but they are delaying shipping it do to the fact that there isn't any 20 speed certified media on the market! Granted it seems like 16 should be enough. I mean this thing does an 80 minute disc in what? 5 minutes or so? Very nice

 

[monopoly]

Good Luck to you all....
Caveat Emptor!

 

[divinemartyr]

Monopoly

I fail to see how this applies to the TDK, the TDK drives are shipped in retail packaging ONLY and come with a clear blue CD-tray with a TDK logo on the outside. This would apply if it was shipped in a white box possibly, but retail boxes do NOT ship with OEM products. Please consider what you're writing before putting it in a thread like this.

divinemartyr

 

[monopoly]

No, you failed to read it correctly. The OEM item I got came in a RETAIL BOX.

 

[hkchan]

monopoly,
Your situation is unfortunate but how do you know
(1) Yamaha knowingly put OEM drives in retail boxes and
(2) Ingram Micro knew about the problem but continued to ship them out? Just because they knew when you called doesn't mean they did when they shipped yours.

 

[Str8UpKiller]

Well buy.com has never screwed me over... Ingram Micro is one of those pricewatch companies. I'd never buy from them

 

[hkchan]

Ingram Micro is a "Pricewatch company"? It's a distributor that drop-ships your Buy.com, Onvia.com etc. order.

 

[IITravel]

I know the VeloCD 12x is a rebadged plextor, but I don't think the VeloCD 16x is, does any one know which company makes it?

 

[RiPPn]

Well I cancelled my 12/10/32 TDK VeloCD order, and jumped on this. With shipping my order over there came to $214.00 cause I was charged tax. My order at buy.com came to $241.00. So for $27 more I get a 16/10/40. Very nice, of course I don't get the $50 rebate but I still think this is a great deal!

 

[mrMaC]

Sanyo makes the plextor drives, the Iomega, Lite-on, ricoh, and TDK 12x10x32 burn proof drives.

 

[beamrider]

Sanyo makes Plextor drives? I've got to see proof of this.........Never heard this before.......

Oh yeah, bump!

 

[monopoly]

Str8UpKiller
Ingram Micro just happens to be one of the largest hardware distributors in the country. Many time larger than Buy.com which stocks very little hardware. Most of the buy.com business is drop shipping which a large part is thru Ingram.

mHubs
Burnproof is great for EIDE drives, but hardly necessary on a SCSI system. The new Yamaha SCSI is currently better than the Plex. The Plex is the best IDE choice.

hkchan
my situation is not unforunate. After all is said and done I got the Yammy from Buy for under $100. To answer the other two: Well both Yamaha and Ingram knew what they were packaging and distributing. Your analogy is like saying it is OK for Strychnine to end up in sealed Tylenol bottles as long as McNeil PPC says they don't know it. That's ludicrous. The FACT is that Yamaha did not put the actual Retail 16/10/40 into the retail market until mid-December. Prior to that they were packaging drives meant for OEM in Retail Packaging - Why, they rushed to get the product on the street and only had an OEM production line. To make this more plausible you should understand that (only) Yamaha, Plextor (and a very few others) manufacture their own drives in their own factories. These are the facts (as they come from Yamaha Tech and Ingram).

 

[divinemartyr]

Actually Sanyo just licenses the technology to various manufacturers. They do not manufacture all of those drives, I know for a fact, they do not make the Lite-On product.

divinemartyr

 

[monopoly]

Sanyo licenses the BurnProof tech and Chipset to Plex and others. Plextor makes their own drives!

 

[IITravel]

Monopoly,
I just read a review on the New Yamaha 16x/10x/40x scsi CD-ROM drive and it was given 7/10 and that it basically was a bad buy from my impression of the review.

 

[RiPPn]

SCSI or IDE, burn-proof is a very nice technology. I had a plextor 12/4/32s and an adaptec 2940u2w, and that drive made more coasters than any other drive I have owned. Some of this might have factored due to my hard drive being older and slow, but with burn-proof this would not have been an issue. This drive (TDK) looks a lot more pleasing than the Yamaha 16x drive. Also the Yamaha is not a true 16x.
My 2 cents.

 

[monopoly]

IITravel,
That may be. There are subjective reviews of Yamahas and Plextors. I am sure I can find a 7/10 for the Plextor from a Yamaha prone site. Actually, as with recent Firmware upgrades for the Plextor, Yamaha just got one that really helped it out.

 

[monopoly]

RiPPn,
Well if you had a 2940u2w then you were (hopefully) using it to push a LVD drive at either 7200 or 10k. At any rate, IF you were then you should certainly know that SCSI burners are not prone to underbuffering as IDE drives are. Reason is the superior I/O multitasking of SCSI over IDE. I doubt you were burning blanks due to the SCSI. The burnproof technoloy, which is good for IDE, sucks up CPU time slices and dedicates much more priority to the IDE channel during the burn process. Basically, it keeps the IDE alive. SCSI does not need this as the I/O is handled away from the CPU and in the case of your u2w, is handled thru its own RiSC. u2w with an older and slower drive - What a waste. But not a reason for coasters unless your system was deprived of resources.

There will always be a better drive on the market. Thats the name of the game. But I have seen the new 16 TDK yet, certainly not in the higher end SCSI configuration. Just my 2 cents.

 

[hkchan]

monopoly,
(1) Let me re-phrase it. Your situation was unfortunate in the beginning.
(2) My analogy (didn't even know it was an analogy) is NOT like saying it is OK for Strychnine to end up in sealed Tylenol bottles as long as McNeil PPC says they don't know it. I agree. That would be ludicrous. Re-read my post. Unfortunately I can't re-read yours. I never said it was ok for Yamaha to put OEM drives in retail boxes. All I was trying to say was there's a big difference between a mistake and a fraud. I said

<< How do you know >>

.
An analogy would be if I make a statement that the Bush team had actually known about Linda Chavez &quot;helping&quot; an illegal alien when they nominated her. Natually people would ask me, &quot;How do you know? Did they confess it to you?&quot;

 

[monopoly]

hkchan,

I never said there was a fraud.

Well perhaps we should both drop this since neither of us has a clue as to what an analogy is!

 

[hkchan]

If Yamaha, as you suggested/claimed, knowingly put OEM drives in retail boxes and would later deny warranty service claiming no warranty coverage on OEM products, I would definitely call it a fraud. What would you call it? Creative marketing?

BTW, you can always retrieve a receipt on Buy.com's web site.