Warm: Lucent V.92 Modem $12.56 at CompGeeks

HepDude

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Hi!

According to Modem Site, there are advantages to using the Lucent WinModem - primarily that there are many of them out there, and a generic one can use any of the drivers out there from many different companies, including Lucent's own drivers.

The latest DSP for this modem is the 1648c chip, which allows use of the latest V.92 drivers.

Well, CompGeeks has an "Encore" brand generic Lucent WinModem for $13.95 which has the latest 1648c DSP chip.

Go to Tech Bargains and they have a 10% off coupon code (and be nice and use their link to make the purchase).

I just installed this modem under WinXP, and at first, using the original XP CD-ROM drivers (5.98a), I connected to my ISP at 49.2 (same as my old modem). Then, I went to Windows Update Catalog (which is accessible from Windows Update), and downloaded the 6.04 drivers (they are under "Agere" - Lucent's new name), and my connect speed went up to 50.6. Then, I went back to Windows Update Catalog and downloaded the 8.20 drivers which are supposed to support V.92. I installed those, and now I connect at 52.0 . My current ISP does not support V.92, so I can't test whether it actually upgraded to V.92, but that is what Modem Site says that 8.20 does - and the ATi3 command now reports "V.92".

BTW, please no "why would anyone want a modem" posts!:disgust: There were enough of those in the last modem deal thread.
 

MaxDSP

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Thanks, Ive been looking for a cheap modem for my sister's pc so this is seems to be a good choce

 

BlackMamba

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my old v.90 lucent connects @ 53.2 :)! however, i tried the new v.92 one and it only goes with 50.6 - whats up with that? back to v.90 i go...
 

SimMike2

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But if you need a new modem anyway, get a V92 just for future compatibility. The V92 protocol also supports faster connect (handshake) times that work even if your ISP doesn't support full V92. This means your connect time can be 30% to 50% shorter. So if your V90 takes one minute to connect, the V92 might do it in 30 seconds. As for the modem on-hold, my sisters will flash that there is a call, but the caller ID part doesn't work and she will lose the Internet connection if you she answers. This is with MSN dial-up.

IHMO, the faster connect time is a nice benefit all by itself.

Mike
 
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Lucent modems are fine modems if you are using a decent pc. My advice, do not put these things in an older pc.... You can face all sorts of issues including random disconnects. Flashing hte firmware helps in most instances, but I have seen instances where nothing short of limithing the piece of garbage to the old V.34 standard will stabilize the connection.

My opinion, if you have a US Robotics V.90, you'd be nuts to upgrade to any V.92 winmodem. Just my two cents.
 

Replay

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Lucent PCI winmodems are a great choice for dial-up players of first-person-shooters (CounterStrike etc.).

Last year I tested a box of 12 different modems. The Lucent chipset models had the lowest pings in online gameplay. They were followed by: USR external, USR winmodem, Cirrus Logic, Rockwell winmodem, PCtel winmodems (the pits!, added 100ms to pings, and the usual chip found in free-after-rebate deals). I've read that the Lucent chips require no more system overhead than that used to service an rs-232 port.

The Lucent devices connected with a nominally slower speed (48,000 vs 49,333) than a USR sportster external, but had measurably better true throughput after 10 minutes of connect time.

My windows 98se operating system reports the initial connect speed, and the USR external starts out with the best speed, but doesn't retain that speed as you surf. Modems often need to retrain, renegotiate a connection speed, as you are connected. Somtimes I've seen them start at 48,000 and run at 26,400 some minutes later, and they are less likely to retrain and reconnect at a higher speed once they drop way down.

Bottom line, I think Lucent chips make for a high-quality modem. Good deal!
 

treemonkey

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On the site it says V.90. Does the "1648C-TY5" mean it's really V.92?

Copied from site:

Standard v.90 / PCI Interface
PCI Plug-n-Play Interface
Lucent Soft Modem Chipset (1648C-TY5), marked as Agere

Data Mode:
56K V.90 (and older standards)

Fax Mode:
V.17 14.4 Kbps FAX (and older FAX standards)
Group 3 Send and Receive FAX

Includes the following:
Software and Drivers CD
Phone Cord
Installation Guide
:confused:
 

Kenny0829

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Thanks for the link to the MODEM SITE, HepDude.
Spent some time there, and found out why my ZOOM modem is a POS.
( I already had a hint, since there has been NO UPDATE to the drivers since "98" )
But I might be able to hack someone else's drivers , thanks to the info from there.

After using, and FIGHTING with disconnects, slow speeds , ect., with this ZOOM modem,
and their LACK of support.

ZOOM IS THE BIGGEST PIECE OF CRAP IN THE WORLD.

Right now I'd rather have a Lucent winmodem, than this HCF , thing.
my $0.02 worth
 

xDrAGoNx

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Recently i picked up the Dell Dimension 4400 deal and it seems i got a conexant v.90 data/fax modem. I believe this is a hardware modem (not 100% sure) but i am having a hard time playing RPS games online, i keepy getting a Cl_flushentity something error in CS Not sure if it's the Dellnet by MSN or if its the modem (both are new to me). Would this winModem perform better? or is it just the Dellnet by MSN that is causing the problems?
 

BlackMamba

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xDrAGoNx:

conexant = terrible software modems. they have a tester at their site to see if your modem is HCF or HSF. HSF is the worst, but HCF is terrible too. i got random disconnects in rts games, and sometimes it would just stop transmitting data (but not d/c). anyway, since using the lucent i have had NO problems of any sort. great for games and nice pings (i wouldn't play an fps on it tho). connection speeds are up from 46.6 all the time to 53.2 or 52.0...
 

treemonkey

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I've had problems w/ my lucent winmodem and XP. Connects at 16.8. I tried a free (AR) modem w/ a PCTel (HSPmicromodem) chip and it's very decent 46.6 solid, no disconnects. I just plugged it in and XP automatically detected it.
 

alyosha

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Does anybody know how to get v92 drivers for Lucent Winmodem, my windows update doesn't list them.
 

shawnman

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You just can't beat these Lucent-based modems. After fighting my share of USR Winmodems I thought I would never have another Winmodem.

But Lucent does Winmodems right, they are pretty much the only modems I use now. Especially since USR sold out.
 

xDrAGoNx

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<< Does anybody know how to get v92 drivers for Lucent Winmodem, my windows update doesn't list them. >>


I don't know if you've already checked this or not, but lucent chipset modems are now listed under Agere, not lucent.
 

HepDude

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<< Does anybody know how to get v92 drivers for Lucent Winmodem, my windows update doesn't list them. >>



Go to Windows Update, and then click on "Windows Update Catalog" (this allows you to find downloads that the software doesn't think your system needs).

Then look in hardware drivers for "Agere" and find the "8.20" drivers for Lucent.



<< What about the Lucent modem featured here?? >>



The picture is too small to tell the chipset numbers, and there are no other details, so you would have to order it with the idea of possibly returning it, were it not to be suitable. See my ModemSite link in the first post for more information.
 

GnatGoSplat

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Will there be noticeable CPU load on a Celeron 333 with this modem?
Or should I spend $25 more for a true hardware PCI modem?
 

Arschloch

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What kinds of pings should one expect with one of these Lucent chipset 56k modems?

I have the worst of the worst, a PCTel Micromodem, which never gets a ping better than 250 (and it's usually in the 280-300 range at its best), when pinging my own ISP.

Can anyone shed some light?
 

nnnyyy

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<< i keepy getting a Cl_flushentity something error in CS Not sure if it's the Dellnet by MSN or if its the modem (both are new to me). >>



xdragonx
I had this exact problem before (about a year ago). The game play would just freeze for 4 seconds every 2 minutes or so. But the ping was still the same. It wasnt with a modem though. My ping was about 50 and I was using a linksys wireless router/switch to share the DSL. When I enabled wireless access, I got the clfushentity but when I disabled wireless access, I didnt have the problem. Eventually, when the newest firmware came out for my router, it fixed it completely. Also I have a few buddies that used to play cs on dellnet and everything was fine. Hope this info helps you out a little.

As for the lucent modems, they really are that good. Much better than those hsf conexant ones and those pctel modems. Before v.92 came out, I used to use an actiontec callwaiting modem based on the lucent chipset and it was really fast. Just a little slower than the usr. Also as mentioned before, if you play fps games like cs, the lucent modems are highly recommended.
 

treemonkey

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Has anyone found out how to get the 8.20 drivers? I tried "Windows Update" and "Windows Catalog" in WinXP and didn't find anything.