Warm: Dell eIPS 21.5" 1080P LCD $209 shipped (+tax) AC

LumbergTech

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great monitor

had it for a couple months now

for those wondering about what its actually like

1. great picture, nice colors, you notice details you wouldnt on a TN panel
2. it is not SUPER FAST like some TN panels for gaming
I wouldn't say I see tons of ghosting, but I can tell that its response is a little slower than my old TN panel.
3. It has significant back light bleeding.
You won't see it too much if the light is on in your room (unless you try to), but in the dark its quite apparent whenever you go to a black screen
 

Patrick Wolf

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great monitor

had it for a couple months now

for those wondering about what its actually like

1. great picture, nice colors, you notice details you wouldnt on a TN panel
2. it is not SUPER FAST like some TN panels for gaming
I wouldn't say I see tons of ghosting, but I can tell that its response is a little slower than my old TN panel.
3. It has significant back light bleeding.
You won't see it too much if the light is on in your room (unless you try to), but in the dark its quite apparent whenever you go to a black screen

What do you have now?

Also, code not working.
 
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PieIsAwesome

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great monitor

had it for a couple months now

for those wondering about what its actually like

1. great picture, nice colors, you notice details you wouldnt on a TN panel
2. it is not SUPER FAST like some TN panels for gaming
I wouldn't say I see tons of ghosting, but I can tell that its response is a little slower than my old TN panel.
3. It has significant back light bleeding.
You won't see it too much if the light is on in your room (unless you try to), but in the dark its quite apparent whenever you go to a black screen

Wow, so even this supposedly good 22" LCD monitor has backlight bleeding. Is there an LCD monitor around this size that does not suck?
 

Spike

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Wow, so even this supposedly good 22" LCD monitor has backlight bleeding. Is there an LCD monitor around this size that does not suck?

Every LCD I've owned (4 TN and 4 IPS panels) have had back light bleeding to a greater or lesser extent. I'm not excusing it, I've just come to expect it.
 

elanmorin5

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I know IPS is supposed to be really good, but the response time on this monitor is 8ms grey to grey, which seems really high. I'd be using this for gaming, so I assume it's not as good for that as a 2ms GTG? Anyone else use this monitor for gaming?
 

Spike

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I don't use this monitor (yet) but I used a Dell 2001FPW (16ms response, 12ms grey to grey) for years and never saw ghosting. Obviously this is a different monitor but you can't always base ghosting on the posted response rate. I'll have this U2211H early next week and plan to give it a try...
 

craftech

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My biggest complaint about today's monitors is not back light bleeding. It's the aspect ratio. Somewhere along the line they all decided that a monitor was a television and that we all needed another television for computing. NO! I want a monitor with an aspect ratio of 16:10 not 16:9. Try to find them now. Even this Dell is a television. They can keep it. I have a 2209WA that I bought from Dell when they had some sense.

John
 

qliveur

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^I also have a 2209WA and I agree with you about aspect ratio. The upside is that, since you're already being pigeon-holed into buying a 16:9 panel, you might as well buy a TV. Chances are you'll get a better-quality panel for about the same price.
 

elanmorin5

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It looks like it dropped another $20 (via slickdeals):

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llmercll

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I bet your experiencing ips glow. from what I've seen these panels have very little bleed.

I use the monitor for gaming and there is no ghosting.
 

aggressor

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Yea, IPS monitors without a polarizer will have a glow on black\dark images when viewed even from a slight angle.

Also, the 2209WA might be 16:10, but higher resolution is higher resolution. 1920x1080 > 1680x1050 (though, 1920x1200 > both)
 
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qliveur

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At this size I would think that the screen would be too small to benefit from the higher resolution.
 

NutBucket

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I was wondering about that - how would 22", 23", and 24" eIPS panels stack up, all at 1920x1080?
Having 23" monitors @ 1680x1050 vs 1920x1080, the difference is staggering. Definitely worthwhile to have the higher DPI.

For comparison, I also had a 2001WFP. My 15" laptop panel is the same resolution. Aside from the 2001's better color reproduction, the laptop panel is much crisper.

As you can see, I'm obviously in the "the more the merrier" camp when it comes to pixels.
 

llmercll

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At this size I would think that the screen would be too small to benefit from the higher resolution.

you'll have the same desktop real estate as a 24" or even a 30" at 1080p. The difference is things will be smaller on the 22", and sharper due to the higher dpi (smaller, plentiful pixels).
 

Pollock

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Having 23" monitors @ 1680x1050 vs 1920x1080, the difference is staggering. Definitely worthwhile to have the higher DPI.

For comparison, I also had a 2001WFP. My 15" laptop panel is the same resolution. Aside from the 2001's better color reproduction, the laptop panel is much crisper.

As you can see, I'm obviously in the "the more the merrier" camp when it comes to pixels.

What I meant is that I currently have a cheap, old TN 24" at 1920x1200 that I would like to replace with some eIPS models at 1920x1080 (since nobody makes 1920x1200 panels anymore).

The U2211H, U2311H, and some 24" model are all eIPS panels at 1920x1080. What are the reasons to get a more expensive U2311H (has been on sale in the past) over a U2211H when they have the same panel technology and resolution?
 

Patrick Wolf

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What I meant is that I currently have a cheap, old TN 24" at 1920x1200 that I would like to replace with some eIPS models at 1920x1080 (since nobody makes 1920x1200 panels anymore).

The U2211H, U2311H, and some 24" model are all eIPS panels at 1920x1080. What are the reasons to get a more expensive U2311H (has been on sale in the past) over a U2211H when they have the same panel technology and resolution?

The bigger screen of course. The 22" will be crisper due to higher DPI. Whether or not it's noticeable enough to matter is up to you. In a side by side (provided both panels are equal) most people would probably pick the 23" since you gain about the same amount of screen area as you lose in DPI. Bigger screens are generally preferred for games and movies as they provide greater immersion.

And there is one relatively affordable 1920x1200 IPS panel I know of.
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en...1-4101131.html

EDIT: Well according to this test the 23" has better contrast and black. http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=6&ma1=88&mo1=752&p1=8953&ma2=88&mo2=744&p2=8771&ph=16 (select the contrast test)
 
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