I doubt "the scene" will ever fully be stopped. They will just keep going further underground. I hope the release groups just grow stronger even though many may find what they do morally wrong.
Yeah it always seems funny to find out how many people are down loading this stuff then can head out to church next sunday morning.... AMAZING.... I am not a believer but I'm glad I don't have to worry about it at church or some other get together.
Fully Stopped? Hardly. This will never be stopped. It's a headless server... Do you really think the FBI will be knocking on your do just because they think an IP address that once belonged to you was found on a share site? Besides when you do get the notice all you need to do is take a 1/4" drill and start making holes in your hard drive then tell them to PROVE that you have copyrighted software on your computer. They don't have a leg to stand on and they know it.
Fully Stopped? Hardly. This will never be stopped. It's a headless server... Do you really think the FBI will be knocking on your do just because they think an IP address that once belonged to you was found on a share site? Besides when you do get the notice all you need to do is take a 1/4" drill and start making holes in your hard drive then tell them to PROVE that you have copyrighted software on your computer. They don't have a leg to stand on and they know it.
I think its a waste of resources really. So many more useful things the feds could be doing. I highly dislike mainstream music and most movies. It's crazy to pirate software when so many good open source alternatives are available. I think alot get into it all as a hobby more than actually using the gigs upon gigs of software etc they distribute.
I would.... through taxes. Now if you wanted to pay for burglary investigations through homeowner's taxes as opposed to out of the general purse, I wouldn't be opposed to that.
Robbing someone's home != copyright infringement.
It's exactly the same. And the concept of selective taxes to have laws that protect the public interest is also a bad idea.
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Warner Home Entertainment will only give Internet Service Providers (ISP's) the license needed for movie content distribution, if they provide Warner identifying information about customers that request this service. A Dutch ISP refused to give information about file-sharers and as a consequence, they won't get any content at all!
During a seminar on "online piracy" in the Netherlands last week a representative of Warner Home Entertainment made it clear that Internet Service Providers won"t get movie content licensed, unless they provide the indentifying information of their customers on demand.In a concluding panel discussion at the seminar a representative of one of the Dutch ISPs said they declined to hand over the IDs of its file-sharing customers to anti-piracy organisation BREIN to protect their privacy. Warner Home Video"s Ruud Lamers responded that as long a the providers stick to this opinion they don"t have to expect any content from the major players.
"What next? Hand over your first born?". It is visible that large companies, specially related to the movie industry, want full control on the end-user. Self-destroy DVD's, DRM, low price DVD's on the chinese market, raids in Los Angeles, lawsuits...you name it. The end isn't near at all and I don't really know what more would they like to control in the legal owner. Will we have to ask permission to view the movies too or have some sort of schedule?
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Warner Home Entertainment will only give Internet Service Providers (ISP's) the license needed for movie content distribution, if they provide Warner identifying information about customers that request this service. A Dutch ISP refused to give information about file-sharers and as a consequence, they won't get any content at all!
During a seminar on "online piracy" in the Netherlands last week a representative of Warner Home Entertainment made it clear that Internet Service Providers won"t get movie content licensed, unless they provide the indentifying information of their customers on demand.In a concluding panel discussion at the seminar a representative of one of the Dutch ISPs said they declined to hand over the IDs of its file-sharing customers to anti-piracy organisation BREIN to protect their privacy. Warner Home Video"s Ruud Lamers responded that as long a the providers stick to this opinion they don"t have to expect any content from the major players.
"What next? Hand over your first born?". It is visible that large companies, specially related to the movie industry, want full control on the end-user. Self-destroy DVD's, DRM, low price DVD's on the chinese market, raids in Los Angeles, lawsuits...you name it. The end isn't near at all and I don't really know what more would they like to control in the legal owner. Will we have to ask permission to view the movies too or have some sort of schedule?
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I think my might be able to even get data off it even if you drilled a hole.
You'd be better off writing Zeros to entire drive.
Perhaps you could use some arguments now? You know, like WHY you think "selective taxes" are a bad idea or why intellectual and personal property are "exactly the same."
I think its best to have the people that use government services pay for those government services. Someone who doesn't make or purchase copyrighted materials should not have to pay for the upkeep of the system.
I'm not sure what to tell you about the difference between intellectual and personal property... They aren't exactly the same thing since one is physical and the other is a construct.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4642373.stm
Last Updated: Friday, 1 July, 2005, 16:26 GMT 17:26 UK
Swedes curb rampant downloading
Swedes can no longer freely download copyrighted material
Sweden has outlawed the downloading of copyrighted movies, games and music in an attempt to curb rampant piracy.
About 10% of Swedes freely swap music, games and films on their computers, one of the highest rates in the world.
With no law banning file-sharing, Sweden had become a hotbed of piracy where films, music and software were readily swapped.
But experts believe the law will change little and that Swedes will remain rampant downloaders.
Pirate haven
Prior to the law coming into force, Sweden was the only European nation that let people download copyrighted material for personal use.
As a result many Swedes, thanks also to the available of cheap high-speed net access, were committed downloaders. It is estimated that about 900,000 Swedes regularly downloaded movies, games and music.
etc.
Last Updated: Friday, 1 July, 2005, 16:26 GMT 17:26 UK
Swedes curb rampant downloading
Swedes can no longer freely download copyrighted material
Sweden has outlawed the downloading of copyrighted movies, games and music in an attempt to curb rampant piracy.
About 10% of Swedes freely swap music, games and films on their computers, one of the highest rates in the world.
With no law banning file-sharing, Sweden had become a hotbed of piracy where films, music and software were readily swapped.
But experts believe the law will change little and that Swedes will remain rampant downloaders.
Pirate haven
Prior to the law coming into force, Sweden was the only European nation that let people download copyrighted material for personal use.
As a result many Swedes, thanks also to the available of cheap high-speed net access, were committed downloaders. It is estimated that about 900,000 Swedes regularly downloaded movies, games and music.
etc.
I find a 'person's' - ( I use this term 'loosely') ability to completely recluse themself from Logic utterly Disgusting!
First of all, a person does have a right to make a living off of their inventions.. this has NEVER been contested EVER, by ANYONE!! (even pir8s!)
However, It has never been a promise that someones ideas or even their very INVENTIONS should be protected from reverse engineering for MANY socially healthy and acceptable reasons (most importantly, IMPROVEMENT!).
However, somewhere along the way, a little pirate named William F.U. Gates decided that he would outsmart the ENTIRE world and be the first theif to get away with mutiny. He copyrighted a program he did not 'truly' own (according to current law). He ripped off another company's >Idea< and made himself richer than an ARAB country. Then he 'bought' senators who knew d*@k about computers to pass laws to 'protect' his intellectual rights! [I can't believe we passed laws to protect somebody's thoughts!] I wonder who protects the 'thoughts' of those poor suckers who are just fresh out of college writing software but don't have the money to prosecute Uncle Bill for selling the same thing they did for a Senior Thesis two years prior.
Now you are not allowed to even inform the public about flawed software without being prosecuted by a group that DARES call itself the Department of 'JUSTICE'.. what a laugh!
I hope the Movie and Music industry goes bankrupt for peddling $hi7 like Britney Spears and 'Herbie goes Down my Pants.' Then when the system fails, we can go back to having TRUE innovation where the FREE exchange of ideas is not only recognized as essential to deeper understanding of truth, but encouraged for the benefit of ALL ManKind... Not Just the GREEDY SCUM! - Done
"Hackers of the World Unite" - End Tyranny from IGnoRANCE
First of all, a person does have a right to make a living off of their inventions.. this has NEVER been contested EVER, by ANYONE!! (even pir8s!)
However, It has never been a promise that someones ideas or even their very INVENTIONS should be protected from reverse engineering for MANY socially healthy and acceptable reasons (most importantly, IMPROVEMENT!).
However, somewhere along the way, a little pirate named William F.U. Gates decided that he would outsmart the ENTIRE world and be the first theif to get away with mutiny. He copyrighted a program he did not 'truly' own (according to current law). He ripped off another company's >Idea< and made himself richer than an ARAB country. Then he 'bought' senators who knew d*@k about computers to pass laws to 'protect' his intellectual rights! [I can't believe we passed laws to protect somebody's thoughts!] I wonder who protects the 'thoughts' of those poor suckers who are just fresh out of college writing software but don't have the money to prosecute Uncle Bill for selling the same thing they did for a Senior Thesis two years prior.
Now you are not allowed to even inform the public about flawed software without being prosecuted by a group that DARES call itself the Department of 'JUSTICE'.. what a laugh!
I hope the Movie and Music industry goes bankrupt for peddling $hi7 like Britney Spears and 'Herbie goes Down my Pants.' Then when the system fails, we can go back to having TRUE innovation where the FREE exchange of ideas is not only recognized as essential to deeper understanding of truth, but encouraged for the benefit of ALL ManKind... Not Just the GREEDY SCUM! - Done
"Hackers of the World Unite" - End Tyranny from IGnoRANCE
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