ok. thanks for all the input. but unfortunately, i'm having problems installing bnetd. i have 4.25 and it needs to be compiled. i downloaded the recommended tools (Borland C++ compiler 5.5.1) and followed the instructions. i created the 2 files that were needed and etc. The only thing that doesn't work is the "make -fMakefile.BORLAND install" command. any ideas on what i did wrong?