War with Iran...

[cwjerome]

Should the US take military action against Iran if it's clear they will not stop nuclear production? I know the subject has been done before, but this is an interesting read.

TIME magazine article

I think there's a lot of variables and we'll have to see how things play out. This is one of "what if" problems... do you pay a small price upfront in the off-chance that you'll be detering a HUGE problem later?

I certainly would not rule out a massive air campaign.

 

[Zebo]

I certainly would not rule out a massive air campaign.

Agreed 24/7 bomb runs until they scream uncle. No troops on the ground. No Ships or Vechiles allowed out or in thier country. Total blockade... IMO the Iranians started war in 1979 but we had weasles and ball-less presidents then and since. Of course we'll never fight like this again so whatever policy we chose is doom to failure and Iran will have nukes.

 

[piasabird]

First of all I think Iran is attacking us in different ways than just nuclear. I think they are behind many of the attacks in Iraq whether they are funding the terrorists or supplying supplied for IED's. I also think they were the ones that funded the Hesbolah in the attacks made against Isreal, which can be an attempt to attack our allies or the USA through Proxy. Now they are building up a Nuclear Arsenal. These people are dangerous and can not be trusted.

I am of the opinion that Isreal and the USA should have bombed Iran during their Hesbolah attacks. They were attacking civilians so we should have attacked their civilians so they could understand what it felt like to be bombed. This country will have to be dealt with sooner or later. I think as retaliation we should just attack their bridges, their power stations, and their Water supplies. Just cripple them so their civilians can understand what their country is doing to the Isreali Population by funding the Hesbolah and by providing supplies for IED's.

 

[Moonbeam]

Iran is about to become our friend. We are going to get them to help us in Iraq. Everything is coming up roses.

 

[Ozoned]

Perhaps the thing to do would be to set up a 2 party democratic government in Iran. With that, their demise would be from within.....

 

[tomywishbone]

Bring it on!

 

[slash196]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Iran is about to become our friend. We are going to get them to help us in Iraq. Everything is coming up roses.

That'd be quite the political coup.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Should the US take military action against Iran if it's clear they will not stop nuclear production? I know the subject has been done before, but this is an interesting read.

TIME magazine article

I think there's a lot of variables and we'll have to see how things play out. This is one of "what if" problems... do you pay a small price upfront in the off-chance that you'll be detering a HUGE problem later?

I certainly would not rule out a massive air campaign.

Iran needs to be destroyed. Do everything necessary to make that happen.

 

[Aimster]

The U.S cannot simply attack Iran without the Iranian regime attacking back hard. The U.S had their opportunity years ago to make it much easier for them but instead allowed the Iranian regime to get stronger.

& The U.S navy will fail at blocking the Iranians via water. It will cost the U.S & it will cost the world.

The U.S navy is unstoppable in the open waters. The Persian Gulf is small and it makes the U.S navy vulnerable as well as every other ship.

& there is zero evidence to suggest Iran is behind any attacks inside Iraq. The weapons Hezbollah used on Israel were very deadly. They got those weapons from Iran. Those weapons have failed to show up inside Iraq.

 

[DealMonkey]

Why is Iran our (the U.S.) problem? "Team America" was a movie ... with puppets ... we're not really the world's super-cop.

 

[imported_Lothar]

War with Iran?
Good luck getting a "stable" Iraq after that.

 

[jpeyton]

Attacking Iran would go down as one of the biggest mistakes in the 21st century. The implications are incredibly grave for our military and for our national security.

We can bomb our hearts out in Iran. The people will rally around the government. The Strait of Hormuz will turn into a parking lot. Afghanistan will accelerate it's backward slide, and Iraq will literally turn into hell on Earth (more so than it already is). Israel and Iran will start volleying missiles, either directly or through proxies. Any hope of pulling our troops out of the region in the next decade will be erased, and I will guarantee some sort of draft will be required to handle the increased demand on our military in all three countries (Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan). We'll be hemorrhaging tens of billions of dollars per week while oil prices skyrocket and our economy takes a hit (all except oil company stocks). Terrorists will multiply at an obscene rate as we occupy three sovereign nations.

After Iraq, nobody here can realistically believe bombing Iran will lead to anything but total disaster stretched over the next few decades.

 

[Arkaign]

The Iranians are downright docile compared the the Pakistanians. When Musharraf falls from power, you're going to see some serious shite.

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: Aimster
& there is zero evidence to suggest Iran is behind any attacks inside Iraq. The weapons Hezbollah used on Israel were very deadly. They got those weapons from Iran. Those weapons have failed to show up inside Iraq.

Women are being forced to wear the Abaya a la Iran style and the support is coming from Iran...or so the word is coming from the Baghdad street.

I think to bomb Iran to oblivion is a waste and useless

but to act as if they have no hand in the sectarian violence with their puppet Al Maliki is simply not true.

 

[International Machine Consortium]

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Should the US take military action against Iran if it's clear they will not stop nuclear production? I know the subject has been done before, but this is an interesting read.

TIME magazine article

I think there's a lot of variables and we'll have to see how things play out. This is one of "what if" problems... do you pay a small price upfront in the off-chance that you'll be detering a HUGE problem later?

I certainly would not rule out a massive air campaign.

Absolutely not. This must be the new Republican plan: start another failed war before even cleaning up the previous failed war. You guys really need to take a breath.
bu bye.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
The Iranians are downright docile compared the the Pakistanians. When Musharraf falls from power, you're going to see some serious shite.

Perhaps India will take care of them for us, but you are right, Pakistan is much less stable than Iran.

 

[alchemize]

Either we go to war with them or they get nukes capable of hitting Israel/Europe and soon us. There is no plan C. We'll see what's acceptable to our government over the next 2 years.

Edit: I take that back - plan C is Israel conducts a pre-emptive nuclear strike on Iran. That might be the best scenario, but least likely.

 

[miketheidiot]

what a great way to ensure the worst case scenario.

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Should the US take military action against Iran if it's clear they will not stop nuclear production? I know the subject has been done before, but this is an interesting read.

TIME magazine article

I think there's a lot of variables and we'll have to see how things play out. This is one of "what if" problems... do you pay a small price upfront in the off-chance that you'll be detering a HUGE problem later?

I certainly would not rule out a massive air campaign.

It most likely will be hemmed and hawed around till something has to be done.
At which time if there is a democrat in the whitehouse, it would be very interesting to see how they handle that. Most likely the plan would consist of dropping copies of the New York Times over Iran so that they can see Democrats understand them.

Personally I still think the easiest solution is for Cheney to invite Ahmadinejad to go hunting with him.

 

[shira]

I think the U.S. military should first invade the White House.

 

[TravisT]

Lets try to reestablish some alliances and work with other countries to resolve this issue before we just run in and try to wipe out another country. We've already written some history in the last 6 years, and everyone knows that one thing history can be used for is to learn from others mistakes.

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: TravisT
Lets try to reestablish some alliances and work with other countries to resolve this issue before we just run in and try to wipe out another country. We've already written some history in the last 6 years, and everyone knows that one thing history can be used for is to learn from others mistakes.

Have you not been reading the news over the last year at diplomatic efforts concerning Iran with Europe, Russia, and China.

Europe is impotant and russia and china have other agendas.

 

[cwjerome]

Here's the crux of the issue as I see it:

"Military action against Iran's nuclear facilities would have a decent chance of succeeding, but at a staggering cost. And therein lies the excruciating calculus facing the U.S. and its allies: Is the cost of confronting Iran greater than the dangers of living with a nuclear Iran? And can anything short of war persuade Tehran's fundamentalist regime to give up its dangerous game?"

An air assault would have to be huge... about 30 nuclear-related targets, plus the necessary anti-air aim points, possibly dozens. This would require 1000s of sorties over at least a week. It would probably set the nuclear effort back about 3 or 4 years.

What would the reaction be? Perhaps the Iranians might develop second thoughts about their leader's plans as a nuclear power. Some believe that the crisis of legitimacy that the ruling clerics would face in the wake of a U.S. attack could trigger their downfall, although others are convinced it would unite the population with the government in anti-American rage.

What's the alternative? A nuclear armed Iran... a country that says Israel doesn't have the right to exist and actively supports terrorist groups. Probably a Middle East arms race at best, or regional war at worst.

What will it take to get Iran to scrap the nuke program?

 

[Deptacon]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Iran is about to become our friend. We are going to get them to help us in Iraq. Everything is coming up roses.

yeah cause the congreesmen who thought up that idea should be drug tested......lets let Iran into the one semi quasi deomcarctic place in the middleeast...so they can screw it all up

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Deptacon

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Iran is about to become our friend. We are going to get them to help us in Iraq. Everything is coming up roses.

yeah cause the congreesmen who thought up that idea should be drug tested......lets let Iran into the one semi quasi deomcarctic place in the middleeast...so they can screw it all up

Hey, better they screw it up than us, right?