War on Drugs returns

[K1052]

Price: Opioid replacement therapy bad. Addiction can be "cured":

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/11/tom-price-opioids-addiction-specialists-238287

During a visit to West Virginia on Tuesday, Price expressed skepticism of maintenance therapies that use milder opioid drugs, like methadone, to treat addiction.

“If we just simply substitute buprenorphine or methadone or some other opioid-type medication for the opioid addiction, then we haven’t moved the dial much,” Price told the Charleston Gazette-Mail, adding that he was encouraged by medications such as naltrexone, which “actually blocks the addictive behavior as well as the seeking behavior." Naltrexone isn't an opioid. Price used its brand name, Vivitrol.

“That’s exciting stuff,” Price said. “So we ought to be looking at those types of things to actually get folks cured so that they can come back and become productive members of society and realize their dreams.”

Sessions: Bring back maximum punishment for drug offenses. Means lots more private prisons and prisoners needed.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/attorn...ugher-sentences-for-drug-offenders-1494583202

In a move expected to swell federal prisons, Attorney General Jeff Sessions is scuttling an Obama administration policy to avoid charging nonviolent, less-serious drug offenders with long, mandatory-minimum sentences.

Mr. Sessions’s new guidelines revive a policy created under President George W. Bush that tasked federal prosecutors with charging “the most serious readily provable offense.”

It is the latest and most significant step by the new administration toward dismantling President Barack Obama’s criminal justice legacy. And it defies a trend in state capitals—including several led by conservative Republicans—toward recalibrating or abandoning the mandatory-minimum sentences popularized during the “war on drugs” of the 1980s and 1990s.

It should be noted that Trump ran, in no small part, on fixing the opioid problem. I guess "fixing" means stripping medicaid from the people who used it to get substance abuse treatment, putting lots more people in jail, and wanting to limit treatment options. Good luck rural white America....you're going to get to see the compassion that was delivered to urban non-white America in the 80s and 90s.

 

[KMFJD]

You gotta replace all the people that would have went to jail for weed somehow, made for profit prisons need customers don't they?

 

[Mai72]

Time to throw the poor in prison. It's good for the stockholders, creates prison jobs and it looks like Trump is doing something.

Of course, if you have money you can by pass all of that and abuse the system. Sad really. We are going backwards. Should had stayed in Thailand. I at least know where I stood there.

 

[vi edit]

I guess stamping license plates for 3 square a day and a roof over your head technically counts as employed right?

 

[soundforbjt]

At least in prison they'll get free healthcare.

 

[Vic]

I guess stamping license plates for 3 square a day and a roof over your head technically counts as employed right?

It's why America has such a large prison population in the first place. Our great free capitalist nation puts people in prisons in order to remove them from the workforce, which then creates jobs for prison guards. For a government concerned about unemployment numbers, and in power from fearmongering law-and-order propaganda, it is very much a win-win.

 

[IronWing]

Sessions is a disgusting human being.

 

[K1052]

Sessions is a disgusting human being.

I'm not entirely sure he isn't just an unusually large Keebler elf who had such dark ideas that he was let go and decided to enter politics.

 

[Thebobo]

At least in prison they'll get free healthcare.

LOL!!!!

 

[Thebobo]

They need to get rid of private prisons!

 

[IronWing]

They need to get rid of private prisons!

But they just brought them back! Backing out of the contracts would cost too much. We need to fill them up make sure the taxpayers get their money's worth.

 

[uallas5]

Hey Jeff, the 80's called. They want their failed policies back!

 

[vi edit]

I say we start calling him by his full name... Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the Third.

Just say that out loud and try not to suppress some imagery of an 1850's plantation owner.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Stupid sonofabitch. Should just rename DC to Megacity One, build the wall from there to NYC and get our post-apocalyptic future into full swing.

 

[brycejones]

Stupid sonofabitch. Should just rename DC to Megacity One, build the wall from there to NYC and get our post-apocalyptic future into full swing.

I am sorry you should do that with the dumb asses who voted for this shit show. Atlanta to Montgomery maybe?

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I am sorry you should do that with the dumb asses who voted for this shit show. Atlanta to Montgomery maybe?

Plenty of people voted for him outside of the 'deep south'. Technically it could be canon though, depending on how fast everything got built.

 

[vi edit]

Plenty of people voted for him outside of the 'deep south'. Technically it could be canon though, depending on how fast everything got built.

Son of a bitch...now I need to go fire up "I am the law" by Anthrax...

Fifteen years in the academy
He was like no cadet they'd ever seen
A man so hard, his veins bleed ice
And when he speaks he never says it twice
They call him Judge, his last name is Dredd
So break the law, and you may wind up dead
Truth and justice are what he's fighting for
Judge Dredd the man, he is the law
DROKK IT

With his gun and bike he rules the streets
And every perp he meets will taste defeat
Not even Death can overcome his might
Cause Dredd and Anderson, they won the fight
When the Sov's started the Apocalypse war
And Mega-city was bombed to the floor
Dredd resisted, and the judges fought back
And crushed the Sov's with their counter-attack
DROKK IT

[PRE-CHORUS:]
Respect the badge - he earned it with his blood
Fear the gun - your sentence may be death
because ...

[CHORUS:]
I AM THE LAW
And you won't fuck around no more - I AM THE LAW
I judge the rich, I judge the poor - I AM THE LAW
Commit a crime I'll lock the door - I AM THE LAW
Because in Mega-City ...
I AM THE LAW

In the cursed earth where mutants dwell
There is no law, it's just a living hell
Anarchy and chaos as the blood runs red
But this would change if it was up to Dredd
The book of law is the bible to him
And any crime committed is a sin
He keeps the peace whith his law-giver
Judge, jury, and executioner
DROKK IT

[REPEAT PRE-CHORUS]
[REPEAT CHORUS]

[BRIDGE:]
CRIME - the ultimate sin
Your Iso-Cube is waiting when he brings you in
LAW - it's what he stands for
Crime's his only enemy and he's going to war

 

[KMFJD]

Plenty of people voted for him outside of the 'deep south'. Technically it could be canon though, depending on how fast everything got built.

Oh hell no

 

[Jon-T]

Wow simply wow.

A return to law enforcement.

Simply Wow.

Why would someone want to roll back the clock after all the great gains made over the last 8 years? Opioid deaths at a all time high. Probably more people died from ODing last year than all of Bush's 8 years. Having Mom and Dad found passed in a Burger King Parking lot with the babies in the back seat has become so common it doesn't even make the front page.

 

[vi edit]

Wow simply wow.

A return to law enforcement.

Simply Wow.

Why would someone want to roll back the clock after all the great gains made over the last 8 years? Opioid deaths at a all time high. Probably more people died from ODing last year than all of Bush's 8 years. Having Mom and Dad found passed in a Burger King Parking lot with the babies in the back seat has become so common it doesn't even make the front page.

Instead of discipline as a response, why not look at the actual cause that started the addiction in the first place. Most of the hardest hit areas by heroin epidemic were low income, rural parts of America. Places where manufacturing and physical labor got pulled out for cheaper labor or automation elsewhere. Or for other sources of raw materials (IE natural gas instead of coal). They lost their jobs and were left with nothing. So they turned to drugs to fill the void.

These people had nothing to lose in the first place so lording prison sentences over their head isn't a solution.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Instead of discipline as a response, why not look at the actual cause that started the addiction in the first place. Most of the hardest hit areas by heroin epidemic were low income, rural parts of America. Places where manufacturing and physical labor got pulled out for cheaper labor or automation elsewhere. Or for other sources of raw materials (IE natural gas instead of coal). They lost their jobs and were left with nothing. So they turned to drugs to fill the void.

These people had nothing to lose in the first place so lording prison sentences over their head isn't a solution.

If you (or anyone else) wants a really cool viewpoint about stuff like this, I recommend watching Anthony Bourdain's Parts Unknown, Season 4 Episode 7 (Massachusetts). Goes a lot into the Heroin/Opioid epidemic in the northeast (and the US as a whole), and a 2-3 minute finale that had me clapping with delight.

 

[vi edit]

If you (or anyone else) wants a really cool viewpoint about stuff like this, I recommend watching Anthony Bourdain's Parts Unknown, Season 4 Episode 7 (Massachusetts). Goes a lot into the Heroin/Opioid epidemic in the northeast (and the US as a whole), and a 2-3 minute finale that had me clapping with delight.

Thanks for the heads up. No Reservations was great. Bourdain has seen some shit in his life and isn't scared to wallow in the darker sides of society. I didn't know he had another series.

 

[soundforbjt]

If you (or anyone else) wants a really cool viewpoint about stuff like this, I recommend watching Anthony Bourdain's Parts Unknown, Season 4 Episode 7 (Massachusetts). Goes a lot into the Heroin/Opioid epidemic in the northeast (and the US as a whole), and a 2-3 minute finale that had me clapping with delight.

His show is on a fake news channel, therefore it must be fake as well.

 

[1sikbITCH]

Wow simply wow.

A return to law enforcement.

Simply Wow.

Why would someone want to roll back the clock after all the great gains made over the last 8 years? Opioid deaths at a all time high. Probably more people died from ODing last year than all of Bush's 8 years. Having Mom and Dad found passed in a Burger King Parking lot with the babies in the back seat has become so common it doesn't even make the front page.

"A return to law enforcement". Repeating history here. Failed all the other times too. No addict gives two shits about going to jail and in fact many welcome the occasional vacation from the streets. 3 hots and a cot, meet up with your crew, dry out a little and get refreshed before going back out to shoot some more dope. It doesn't get anyone off drugs and in fact encourages people to do more and harder drugs now that they have all these killer connections.

Nobody in power has any thoughts about stopping the flow of drugs to the addicts; they know it doesn't work. They are doing this because its profitable and to get votes from the religious hardliners. Just another swamp.

 

[alien42]

Wow simply wow.

A return to law enforcement.

Simply Wow.

Why would someone want to roll back the clock after all the great gains made over the last 8 years? Opioid deaths at a all time high. Probably more people died from ODing last year than all of Bush's 8 years. Having Mom and Dad found passed in a Burger King Parking lot with the babies in the back seat has become so common it doesn't even make the front page.

what Sessions did today has absolutely nothing to do with the problem you describe.

law enforcement is also not the answer to all problems. the war on drugs Nixon and Reagan created and promoted had a horrific affect on our society and culturem and destroys millions of primarily minority families.