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BurnItDwn

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Real war as in the old style, not this newfangled shoot some laser guided missle from over the horizon. I mean the kinda war that puts hair on your chest and honor in your family. ;)

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Hmmm .... if war is what puts hair on your chest ... what puts hair on your back.? Also, how do you get it to stop growing there?
 

brigden

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Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: K1052
Places NOT to be sent in WWII.

1. Russian front
2. Russian front
3. Russian front


I spy Mosin Nagants. M38s, M44s, M91/30s, and a couple M91/30 PU snipers (AND a PE sniper). Lots of PPSCHs too.

Yep, dont ya wish you could get your hands on all the great guns pictured.......

M38...Check
M44...Check
M91/30...Check
M91/30 sniper...Still need
PPSCH...Only if I win the lotto

The PPSH-41 is the one I really want. Ohhh, I really really want. (Well, a legal version that is....)

I can barely stand to look at subguns.

This thread made me cry like a little girl.

AFAIK those belong to Western Firearms here in Texas (outside of Dallas). They aren't for sale, but they have some other Thompsons that are.

Select Thompson

That's pretty lame getting that worked up over a gun.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: xEDIT409
Hey, I coulda swore I been to one of those places.

Ohhh yeah, I did! (Call of Duty :))

READY THE ANTITANK RIFLES!!!

I don't know how those Russians ever took Pavlov's house without respawning a bunch of times ;)
 

Chu

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Real war as in the old style, not this newfangled shoot some laser guided missle from over the horizon. I mean the kinda war that puts hair on your chest and honor in your family. ;)

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If you think modern war isn't brutal you need to go over to rotton.com . . .
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: Chu
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Real war as in the old style, not this newfangled shoot some laser guided missle from over the horizon. I mean the kinda war that puts hair on your chest and honor in your family. ;)

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If you think modern war isn't brutal you need to go over to rotton.com . . .

Compared to previous wars?
You need to go to History 101
 

Chu

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Jan 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Chu
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Real war as in the old style, not this newfangled shoot some laser guided missle from over the horizon. I mean the kinda war that puts hair on your chest and honor in your family. ;)

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If you think modern war isn't brutal you need to go over to rotton.com . . .

Compared to previous wars?
You need to go to History 101

I think we need to get streight what we're talking about. If you want to scale up a modern war to the size of either of the great wars, I think the body counts would be just as high, and the weapons just as brutal. Fuel-air bombs and the like as just as nasty as the worst chemical weapons of WWI.
 

Shockwave

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Sep 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: Chu
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Chu
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Real war as in the old style, not this newfangled shoot some laser guided missle from over the horizon. I mean the kinda war that puts hair on your chest and honor in your family. ;)

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If you think modern war isn't brutal you need to go over to rotton.com . . .

Compared to previous wars?
You need to go to History 101

I think we need to get streight what we're talking about. If you want to scale up a modern war to the size of either of the great wars, I think the body counts would be just as high, and the weapons just as brutal. Fuel-air bombs and the like as just as nasty as the worst chemical weapons of WWI.

I aint even argueing with this kind of logic. I'll simply nod and agree.
*nods* Yep........
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: brigden
Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: K1052
Places NOT to be sent in WWII.

1. Russian front
2. Russian front
3. Russian front


I spy Mosin Nagants. M38s, M44s, M91/30s, and a couple M91/30 PU snipers (AND a PE sniper). Lots of PPSCHs too.

Yep, dont ya wish you could get your hands on all the great guns pictured.......

M38...Check
M44...Check
M91/30...Check
M91/30 sniper...Still need
PPSCH...Only if I win the lotto

The PPSH-41 is the one I really want. Ohhh, I really really want. (Well, a legal version that is....)

I can barely stand to look at subguns.

This thread made me cry like a little girl.

AFAIK those belong to Western Firearms here in Texas (outside of Dallas). They aren't for sale, but they have some other Thompsons that are.

Select Thompson

That's pretty lame getting that worked up over a gun.

I would not say worked up, more like depressed.

That little display of theirs is likely worth $300-500 thousand.
 

Kenazo

Lifer
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1941, July 10, shooted down soviet bomber

something about that translation made me chuckle.

One of the awful things about the Russian front is there was really no point in surrendering. Didn'y some 80% of all German POW's capture by russia die in camps? And vice versa, from what I understand. There wasn't nearly that deep underlying hate between Germany and the other Allied countries (Britain, US, Canada, etc.)
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: K1052

I would not say worked up, more like depressed.

That little display of theirs is likely worth $300-500 thousand.

Agreed. Hell, I cant even legaly own a full auto weapon in the Great Regime of Kansas.
For what its worth, Vector has Uzi's for under 600. Semi auto but hey, better then nothing.
 

Mookow

Lifer
Apr 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Those pictures were good but it doesn't show what wars are like, at all.
Surf the web and find pictures of Iriq. Torn, Burned, Dead bodies all over the place...that's what a war is like..

The conflict in Iraq has nothing on Dresden or Tokyo.
 

Shockwave

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Sep 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Those pictures were good but it doesn't show what wars are like, at all.
Surf the web and find pictures of Iriq. Torn, Burned, Dead bodies all over the place...that's what a war is like..

The conflict in Iraq has nothing on Dresden or Tokyo.

Dont you think its appalling Mookow, the utter ignorance some people have.
"Huh huh, yeah, iraq is alot worse then WWFVCKINGII! huh huh"
:roll:
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: K1052

I would not say worked up, more like depressed.

That little display of theirs is likely worth $300-500 thousand.

Agreed. Hell, I cant even legaly own a full auto weapon in the Great Regime of Kansas.
For what its worth, Vector has Uzi's for under 600. Semi auto but hey, better then nothing.

Same here in Illinois.

Our governer keeps trying to push more laws through, thankfully failing.
Any semi auto weapon that could ever hold 10+ rounds would have become illegal. Any weapon with a bore .50 or more would be illegal (they finally figured out this included all shotguns). They even tried to mandate fingerprinting for all firearms owners.

Only two more years of this freaking tool.
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: K1052
Same here in Illinois.

Our governer keeps trying to push more laws through, thankfully failing.
Any semi auto weapon that could ever hold 10+ rounds would have become illegal. Any weapon with a bore .50 or more would be illegal (they finally figured out this included all shotguns). They even tried to mandate fingerprinting for all firearms owners.

Only two more years of this freaking tool.

You have the power to make it less...........
;)

In all seriousness though, my problem with the illegal full auto issue, is its something that most likely will never get reversed once its passed through. No politician who wants to ever be considered again would try to make owning full auto weapons legal. He'd get drawn and quartered by the media and gun takers.
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: K1052
Same here in Illinois.

Our governer keeps trying to push more laws through, thankfully failing.
Any semi auto weapon that could ever hold 10+ rounds would have become illegal. Any weapon with a bore .50 or more would be illegal (they finally figured out this included all shotguns). They even tried to mandate fingerprinting for all firearms owners.

Only two more years of this freaking tool.

You have the power to make it less...........
;)

Recall is not an option in my state.

The alternative, while attractive, is not worth the sacrfice my anus would likely have to make.

The gov's bodygaurds are not the best though. They couldn't protect out previous governer from a cream pie (literally).
 

bockchow

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i don't think he was trying to say that one war was worse than the other just that those pics didn't even begin to show all the horrors that happen in war.

this thread is covering a very important subject matter so lets try and keep the personal insults to the other threads and try and show some respect for the people that lived this.
 

Shockwave

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Sep 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: bockchow
i don't think he was trying to say that one war was worse than the other just that those pics didn't even begin to show all the horrors that happen in war.

this thread is covering a very important subject matter so lets try and keep the personal insults to the other threads and try and show some respect for the people that lived this.

Anyone whos been through a war has some of my respect. Anyone whos fought in a war has my utmost respect!! And while being the guy in the dirt in ANY war isnt fun or cool, in my opinion the guy in the dirt in WWII had it a touch rougher then the guy in the dirt (sand) in Iraq.
 

Kenazo

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Those pictures were good but it doesn't show what wars are like, at all.
Surf the web and find pictures of Iriq. Torn, Burned, Dead bodies all over the place...that's what a war is like..

The conflict in Iraq has nothing on Dresden or Tokyo.

Tell that to the mother of a dead soldier from either. To the dead all war is equal.
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Those pictures were good but it doesn't show what wars are like, at all.
Surf the web and find pictures of Iriq. Torn, Burned, Dead bodies all over the place...that's what a war is like..

The conflict in Iraq has nothing on Dresden or Tokyo.

Tell that to the mother of a dead soldier from either. To the dead all war is equal.

The horrors of Nazi controlled Europe, the Russian front, and Asia under Japanese rule cannot compare to anything in the last 60 years in terms of scale and ruthlessness.
 

Kenazo

Lifer
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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Those pictures were good but it doesn't show what wars are like, at all.
Surf the web and find pictures of Iriq. Torn, Burned, Dead bodies all over the place...that's what a war is like..

The conflict in Iraq has nothing on Dresden or Tokyo.

Tell that to the mother of a dead soldier from either. To the dead all war is equal.

The horrors of Nazi controlled Europe, the Russian front, and Asia under Japanese rule cannot compare to anything in the last 60 years in terms of scale and ruthlessness.

And I sure wouldn't disagree. It's just quite easy to sit here and debate which war is the most brutal, etc. I think they are all awful.