War crimes case planned against U.S.

[steell]

Pardon me if I don't take this seriously

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But this is really ridiculous:

Mr. Shiner said the activists' case will probe the coalition's use, or suspected use, of cluster bombs, depleted uranium ammunition and fuel-air explosives.
These weapons are unauthorized, he claimed, because they "can't distinguish between civilian or military" targets.

Weapons that exhibit independent judgement? Wow! Talk about artificial intelligence! I was not aware that such was even possible at this time.

You do have to consider the source though

 

[Alistar7]

Especially when military targets are hidden in schools, hosptials, and in residential neighborhoods.

 

[conjur]

Are these groups funded by taxpayer dollars? Sure as fvck hope not.

 

[Mookow]

Mr. Shiner said the activists' case will probe the coalition's use, or suspected use, of cluster bombs, depleted uranium ammunition and fuel-air explosives.
These weapons are unauthorized, he claimed, because they "can't distinguish between civilian or military" targets.

Gee, neither does an M855 or an M193, I guess we should ban those, too

 

[tcsenter]

Hey Ramsey Clark and the gang are still at it, I see.

What wastes of oxygen.

 

[rudder]

I guess the police in the U.S. will have to give up their firearms. The last time I checked, a 9mm round cannot distinguish between a criminal aiming a gun at the officer or an innocent bystander.

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: tcsenter
Hey Ramsey Clark and the gang are still at it, I see.

What wastes of oxygen.

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: steell
Mr. Shiner said the activists' case will probe the coalition's use, or suspected use, of cluster bombs, depleted uranium ammunition and fuel-air explosives.

The US was on shaky ground using these types of weapons and should have known this well beforehand.

Looks like they might have a case.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: flavio

Originally posted by: steell
Mr. Shiner said the activists' case will probe the coalition's use, or suspected use, of cluster bombs, depleted uranium ammunition and fuel-air explosives.

The US was on shaky ground using these types of weapons and should have known this well beforehand.

Looks like they might have a case.

Maybe they should probe how an entire country was conquereed with a number of civilian casualties so low it is unmatched in history, even though alot of them were killed intentionally by their own forces.

that is it from me for now, logging off and going to myrtle beach for a few days, have fun...

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: flavio

Originally posted by: steell
Mr. Shiner said the activists' case will probe the coalition's use, or suspected use, of cluster bombs, depleted uranium ammunition and fuel-air explosives.

The US was on shaky ground using these types of weapons and should have known this well beforehand.

Looks like they might have a case.

Maybe they should probe how an entire country was conquereed with a number of civilian casualties so low it is unmatched in history, even though alot of them were killed intentionally by their own forces.

that is it from me for now, logging off and going to myrtle beach for a few days, have fun...

So you would expect them to overlook any war crimes?

 

[Leon]

Some of the comments at the end of the article are funny

We will enforce it
àâòîð Mother Russia & Coalition guest â 17.04.2003 [08:41]
If necessary for Russia and friends to enforce the verdict, we will. What do you think our military drill is for. To prepare to crush the American criminals. Their whole system of criminals and their criminal residence will be deal with. We will crush them easily. They think that their technology is great but it is nothing. The only reason that they win in afghanistan and Iraq is through mind game. None of their mind game will work on Russia. We are ready to destroy America scum. Prepare to die USA as we are coming. You are the criminal now and will be brought to justice.

TEH RUSSKIES ARE COMING!!! PH34r!!!

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: flavio

So you would expect them to overlook any war crimes?

No...they should prosecute Saddam's thugs fully!

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: conjur
Are these groups funded by taxpayer dollars? Sure as fvck hope not.

i didn't rightly car to have all the blood on my hands though my tax dolors either, but it only seems fair that it would work both ways.

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: flavio

So you would expect them to overlook any war crimes?

No...they should prosecute Saddam's thugs fully!

....but overlook any US war crimes?

 

[Leon]

....but overlook any US war crimes?

Yes, just like they overlook intentional slaughter of Chechnya population by Russian Armed Forces, and thousands executed by Chinese in Tibet.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: Leon

....but overlook any US war crimes?

Yes, just like they overlook intentional slaughter of Chechnya population by Russian Armed Forces, and thousands executed by Chinese in Tibet.

You're right, they should try them all.

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: Leon

....but overlook any US war crimes?

Yes, just like they overlook intentional slaughter of Chechnya population by Russian Armed Forces, and thousands executed by Chinese in Tibet.

So that's a Yes? A "Yes, we should overlook US war crimes"?

Trying to be clear on this.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Leon

....but overlook any US war crimes?

Yes, just like they overlook intentional slaughter of Chechnya population by Russian Armed Forces, and thousands executed by Chinese in Tibet.

So you think it was the right thing to do?

You cannot justify a crime by pointing at someone and saying "he did it tooooo, boooohoooo"...

 

[NesuD]

I would think for them to be war crimes it would have to be proven that those weapons were used with the full understanding that they would be specifically and intentionally targeting civilians with them. I am pretty certain that was never the case.

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: NesuD
I would think for them to be war crimes it would have to be proven that those weapons were used with the full understanding that they would be specifically and intentionally targeting civilians with them. I am pretty certain that was never the case.

Not how it works.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: flavio

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: flavio

So you would expect them to overlook any war crimes?

No...they should prosecute Saddam's thugs fully!

....but overlook any US war crimes?

Such as?

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: flavio

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: flavio

So you would expect them to overlook any war crimes?

No...they should prosecute Saddam's thugs fully!

....but overlook any US war crimes?

Such as?

whatever crimes are determined to have been committed.

 

[DaiShan]

It would be folly to attempt to bring war crimes charges against the US. Espescially for something as trivial as this. It will only diminish the authority of the Hague when we decide not to show up for the trial and do as we like. They would be giving us more power than the UN did by not allowing our millitary campaign, and our aggression thereafter.

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: DaiShan
It would be folly to attempt to bring war crimes charges against the US. Espescially for something as trivial as this. It will only diminish the authority of the Hague when we decide not to show up for the trial and do as we like. They would be giving us more power than the UN did by not allowing our millitary campaign, and our aggression thereafter.

It would be folly for the US-World relations to not show up for a war crimes trial.

 

[Corn]

Not how it works.

LOL, only in your narrowminded little world!!! Bwhahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Maybe not how it works in the sense that a group of gimps might attempt to lobby for charges of this sort, but dating as far back as the 1907 Hague Convention, as NesuD rightly states, require evidence of intentional targeting of civilians or plunder of territory for trial and eventually conviction.

Hell, it took the Hague years just to build what they thought to be a strong enough case against Milosovic--who blatantly targeted civilians in apparent acts of genocide. I would also point out that the munitions used in this war are the same we used in that war, as well as the first military action taken against Iraq--yet for some reason, the US was neither charged, nor found convicted of any war crimes.

The whole premise of this idiotic legal "strategy" by these imbeciles borders on the incredible: The US is guilty of war crimes because the weapons used cannot differentiate between civilian and military targets? As rudder already pointed out, neither can a simple 9mm round distinguish innocent or valid targets..........

It's OK flavio, your blind support of such ridiculous complaints is not anything we haven't come to accept from you and others of your ilk. You let your emotions get in the way history, fact, and precedent--all the while blindly accepting anything spoon fed to you from other simpletons with similar narrowminded sensibilities. But hey, you wouldn't be you if the otherwise was true.