Wanting a tablet for netflix/hulu, but I want the EeePad ><

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gorcorps

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I honestly feel the opposite. The Nook Color hacking has been a bunch of fun, and it has been a great introduction to Android for me since its unbrickable. I now feel sad that development is maturing- the next stable CM7 will have everything working that one could expect to work.

On the other hand, I wish I could hack the iPad. All the cool tricks my biggest iFriend showed me with his iPad 1 (on demand tether, emulators, using non-approved bluetooth devices, mass storage support) I can't do because the iPad 2 lacks unteathered jailbreak. The fact that the next iPhone with come with the same hard to jailbreak core is pushing me away from the entire platform.

So in the end, it is all about your needs, wants and expectations.

Meh, in my experience jailbreaking in the Apple world has been far FAR easier than rooting my Nook... you just have to wait for the jailbreaks to be developed. I've never fucked up a jailbreak, but it was very easy to have a root go wrong and took longer to recover from. To this day it's still a little touchy, but I don't want to start from scratch again until CM7 has absolutely everything working properly.

I also don't see much difference in a rooted Android vs. rooted Apple product as far as what you can do with it. The ipad 2 may be different, but that's because it's new. New products always have to be cracked first before they're broken completely open. Once open though it's all up to each side's underground devs to make things people want.
 

Modelworks

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I was looking at the tablet market and wasn't really happy with what I saw in terms of price vs performance. So what I got was a tablet notebook pc. If you look on ebay there a quite a few HP TC4400 tablets that have just come off corporate lease. They were sold with xp tablet edition but I installed win7 and it works fine. I found one for just over $200 and it has Dual core 2.0Ghz , 2GB ram, 120GB HD, wifi, bluetooth, fingerprint scanner, 12" screen designed for outdoor viewing, screen is digitizer meaning you do have to use the pen, but it works well, panel swivels and folds over keyboard so it works like a tablet.

That is better hardware than any tablet out there and can do far more.
 

Pliablemoose

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Meh, in my experience jailbreaking in the Apple world has been far FAR easier than rooting my Nook... you just have to wait for the jailbreaks to be developed. I've never fucked up a jailbreak, but it was very easy to have a root go wrong and took longer to recover from. To this day it's still a little touchy, but I don't want to start from scratch again until CM7 has absolutely everything working properly.

I also don't see much difference in a rooted Android vs. rooted Apple product as far as what you can do with it. The ipad 2 may be different, but that's because it's new. New products always have to be cracked first before they're broken completely open. Once open though it's all up to each side's underground devs to make things people want.

I've had similar experiences with rooting and jailbreaking.

Although this will start another OMG XXX is better than XXX :D
 

ponyo

Lifer
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The problem with Apple jailbreak is that you'll lose the jailbreak if you update. Then you have to hope and wait for another jailbreak to be released. It's the same for Android root except updates come much faster after the initial discovery. Most reroots are released the same day as the update.

But I agree Apple jailbreak is usually easier to apply.
 

poofyhairguy

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I also don't see much difference in a rooted Android vs. rooted Apple product as far as what you can do with it.

I have found the differences, and they frustrate me. I honestly don't understand the equivalency of rooted Android devices and Jailbroken iDevices. Playing my my friend's unrooted Xoom and Droid X has shown me that Android can do MANY things that by default that iOS won't do (play emulators with a Wiimote, use a bluetooth GPS, transfer files via bluetooth, etc.). The only thing I have needed root for that I would do on both devices is tethering.

But beyond that, I have discovered that Android devices are simply more capable for my needs and those capabilities are stable. For example, with older versions of iOS one of my favorite tricks upon jailbreak was to rip out the bluetooth stack and replace it with a decent one that would actually do things like sync to bluetooth devices that Apple didn't explicitly approve of, or even do the simple act of transferring files via bluetooth. When I updated my iPhone a few weeks ago to iOS 4 I found this ability, even after jailbreak, no longer exists with the capabilities I used to enjoy. I can only get part of that functionality back until someone hacks a new bluetooth stack back into iOS 4. So not only am I waiting for a iPad 2 jailbreak, I am waiting for developers to hack an already pretty mature version of iOS to get back where I was. That would never happen with Android from my experience- it seems once you have a feature you get to keep it.

A lot of the debate comes down to how hard it is to hack, but I don't care about that- I have hacked my 360, Wii, Nook, PSP, etc. I like to hack, and I don't mind if its hard. What I do care about is that at the end of the day I get the functionality I want. That is my problem with iOS, no matter how much I hack (outside of developing my own replacement bluetooth stack which is way over my head) there is some functionality I just can't get. And what I can get I have to wait maybe months to get at. I understand that 98&#37; of the population sees it differently than me. Heck, I bet most Ananders have a different opinion.

My point was that when you are making the decision which platform to pick, it is best to be honest with yourself about your needs and wants and stick to the option that best delivers to your set of needs. There is not one mobile platform that is innately better than another, they all have advantages and disadvantages that apply differently to different people.
 
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MagickMan

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I was looking at the tablet market and wasn't really happy with what I saw in terms of price vs performance. So what I got was a tablet notebook pc. If you look on ebay there a quite a few HP TC4400 tablets that have just come off corporate lease. They were sold with xp tablet edition but I installed win7 and it works fine. I found one for just over $200 and it has Dual core 2.0Ghz , 2GB ram, 120GB HD, wifi, bluetooth, fingerprint scanner, 12" screen designed for outdoor viewing, screen is digitizer meaning you do have to use the pen, but it works well, panel swivels and folds over keyboard so it works like a tablet.

and it's very bulky in comparison and weighs ~4x more.

Edit: My god, it weighs almost 5lbs. No thanks.
 

Modelworks

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and it's very bulky in comparison and weighs ~4x more.

Edit: My god, it weighs almost 5lbs. No thanks.

No it doesn't weigh 5lbs. About 2.5lbs. Bulky , hardly . I use it to read pdf in bed. In tablet mode it is only 1.5 inches thick. Puts the nook, ipad and other tablets to shame, that is unless you can't lift 2.5lbs.