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wanted to make this thread, maybe someone wont be as stupid as i was.

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zane

as you've described it so far on this forum, your life of drug abuse fucking sucks. thanks for sharing your stories, they make me want to stay away from it.
 
Eli said:
Seriously guys, since when is wishing death upon someone OK?

Fuck that. He has family, a kid...

Yeah, he's fucked up. But that certainly doesn't mean he needs to die. Fuck. I know ZJ doesn't have a lot of compassion here, and even I have participated in his mockery, but wishing death upon him is WAY over the line.
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QFT, I'm half way into this thread and honestly with the exception of a few people everyone deserves to be banned, not just for a week. But a GTFO and never come back. Weather or not ZJ is a dumb fuck, the only person he's hurting is himself so telling him you wished he was dead is way over the fucking line. But I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from a group of people who use a persons death as a perfect occasion to make jokes and pun.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...

If people aren't banned here, FUCK YOU MODS! Ban me I don't give a shit, I'm tired of this place and don't want to be around these worthless pathetic fuck who act like their shit don't stink.
 
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First of all, I hope you recover with little or no long-term harm. I also hope you get clean soon, because that's some serious trouble. I have a co-worker that nearly OD'ed on a Fentanyl patch at work about 2 years ago. I work in the office at a warehouse, and this particular employee came to the office at the start of the shift. He seemed fine when he walked in, just a little "fuzzy." Within 2 minutes of walking in the office, he'd sat down in a chair and passed out. He was barely breathing when the paramedics got there and they said he nearly died. He'd taken several opiates, among them a fentanyl patch that he was chewing. He put it in his mouth and was out in 5 minutes or so. None of this information reached the supervisors, and somehow by the time they gave him the drug test he was clean, so he miraculously still has a job. I'm still not sure how that happened. He's since cleaned up his act, but he's the first to admit it wasn't easy. That was a scary enough experience just witnessing it, so I can't imagine what you're going through, zane.

Anyway, I wish you the best in breaking your addiction, and perhaps not spending time here for people to trash you would help. You'd think half of the people on here had never made a mistake in their life. And yes, I'm aware that this is a cycle of mistakes, but until you've been addicted to opiates and tried to get off of them, nobody has any right to trash zane for his problems. We've all made mistakes, at least he's man enough to admit that it is a mistake.
 
zanejohnson said:
i'm gonna post an update:

first off, yes, this is completely true...as was the story about me getting hit with the bat at wal-mart...and yes, i posted both here...and of course shens was called..as it always is..

so lets clear the air... i have two daughters, you can see pics of both on my myspace which i see you've already found...please dont post anything there, i wouldnt post in your myspace. thank you.

secondly... the reason i post here is because all though they are are few, there are some good people here. i'm going through alot of shit right now in my life, and i'm honestly trying to do better...if i could just switch the addiction off i would. cant you see that? i cant even tell you now that i would never use again.. but i can tell you that i do not want to, i dont want that life anymore. this experience has really shook me up, to the core... i'm recovering, i've began seeing a psychiatrist, but it's gonna be a rough road... i cant really move around yet, that's why i havent been back here to update... anyway, im excited about tommorow... i get to see my kids.. they dont live with me, they live with there mother... and she's very strong, they are not around drugs where they are..... anyway, i'm tired of typing...

oh one last thing... the friend that ate the other half is just fine, opoid tolerance and all... that and something about this time was just different.. i mean, i honestly had myself convinced opiates couldnt kill me, i've done some massive IV doses in my day and been fine.... but this time.... it wasnt fine... it was so quick and then the next thing i know i was waking up in ICU and everyone was in awe that i survived..including myself.... i'm really gonna try to change some shit this time... i feel like i cheated death almost, so i better be on top of my shit from here on out... it's almost like im throwing in the towel on the opiate abuse.... i always thought withdrawal was a good reason to use... nah, fuck that. withdrawal dont have shit on the pain i've felt this last week...
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I wouldn't look at it as cheating death. I'd see it as you were given another chance to straighten out your life. You owe it to your daughters.
 
QueBert said:
QFT, I'm half way into this thread and honestly with the exception of a few people everyone deserves to be banned, not just for a week. But a GTFO and never come back. Weather or not ZJ is a dumb fuck, the only person he's hurting is himself so telling him you wished he was dead is way over the fucking line. But I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from a group of people who use a persons death as a perfect occasion to make jokes and pun.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...

If people aren't banned here, FUCK YOU MODS! Ban me I don't give a shit, I'm tired of this place and don't want to be around these worthless pathetic fuck who act like their shit don't stink.
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if he truly has a family, then he's not the only one he's hurting.
 
QueBert said:
QFT, I'm half way into this thread and honestly with the exception of a few people everyone deserves to be banned, not just for a week. But a GTFO and never come back. Weather or not ZJ is a dumb fuck, the only person he's hurting is himself so telling him you wished he was dead is way over the fucking line. But I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from a group of people who use a persons death as a perfect occasion to make jokes and pun.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...

If people aren't banned here, FUCK YOU MODS! Ban me I don't give a shit, I'm tired of this place and don't want to be around these worthless pathetic fuck who act like their shit don't stink.
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Before the VB change most of these guys would have been banned. But they decided to really open up and be more hands off since the change. I like the change for the most part but I think they have gone too far. I too wish most of these guys got at least long vacations if not bans. Makes me sick.
 
Fayd said:
if he truly has a family, then he's not the only one he's hurting.
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So people are wishing death on a father, how lovely! Anyone wishing death on a mother or father deserve to die themselves.

I don't want to be in the vicinity of anyone who's an asshole on that level. So this is my official goodbye I'm gone from this place for good. So many pathetic fucks on here.

peace...
 
QueBert said:
QFT, . Weather or not ZJ is a dumb fuck, the only person he's hurting is himself so telling him you wished he was dead is way over the fucking line. But I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from a group of people who use a persons death as a perfect occasion to make jokes and pun.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone....
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You need to keep reading. he is not "'just hurting himself" - he has 2 kids, an ex, parents and friends who are also affected by his drug use and overdose. His selfish actions have made this a very public situation for everyone around him.

Wishing him dead is over the line - agreed but he seems to be a fine job on his own of making that wish a reality. People heap shit on each other all the time. Should they be banned just because someone reported that he had a near death experience - entirely of their own making? And one that was completely avoidable? He offered his story and he should be prepared for a whole gamut of reactions, from support to scorn. He needs a dose of sober reality.
 
QueBert said:
So people are wishing death on a father, how lovely! Anyone wishing death on a mother or father deserve to die themselves.

I don't want to be in the vicinity of anyone who's an asshole on that level. So this is my official goodbye I'm gone from this place for good. So many pathetic fucks on here.

peace...
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Oh sweet ironing... how sweet it tastes.

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QueBert said:
So people are wishing death on a father, how lovely! Anyone wishing death on a mother or father deserve to die themselves.

I don't want to be in the vicinity of anyone who's an asshole on that level. So this is my official goodbye I'm gone from this place for good. So many pathetic fucks on here.

peace...
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Overreact much? Just put the offenders on ignore. There's what? Ten of them? You'll never have to see their posts again.

I'm indifferent myself. I saw this thread and thought "Oh geez, Zane done fucked up and did something stupid again..."
 
Wow Eli got super owned.....hypocrite much?

I don't wish for the death of ZJ.....but I will say that some kids are better off without deadbeat dads. This is not his first time and I have never heard of him heeding advice from anyone here or even trying to get help for himself so for all I care, he can keep his advice to himself. He's the last person who should be advising people about drugs.
 
QueBert said:
QFT,

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...
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What is it with people tossing out this relativistic “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone” nonsense as a justification for dismissing anyone who thinks that the OP deserves all the shit he has received?

And what is it with the apparent sanctity, for some people, regarding drug use / abuse, which makes it use immune from criticism or comment? Sympathy and compassion seems to be the only permissible response. I am assuming the logic employed is - if you have ever engaged in recreational drug or alcohol use you have lost any moral or ethical standing in which to criticize others who willfully abuse such stuff. So essentially no one in this day and age can comment. That is such horseshit.

This simplistic type of equivalency deliberately ignores self-restraint and responsibility for one’s actions especially in regards to others. He made a choice and he must deal with the consequences. The whole point of that sin parable is to encourage reflection and compassion when making judgments upon others not to deny one the right or moral authority to render such judgments. The OP is an idiot junkie who got lucky. Another stone has been cast. Deal with it.


And adios quebert.
 
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I honestly think that in cases like this the person who has ODed should be left to die. It helps society as a whole, it helps his family, and it helps him.
 
grrl said:
Exactly. He has two children who deserve a living, healthy father. To say he's only hurting himself is nonsense.
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Often times it is better growing up without a father than having a POS one. No role model/father figure is better than a strung out druggie looking for his next fix while abandoning all those that are close to him.

Just like it is sometimes best to divorce and move on with your life when you have kids if there is constant fighting in the household.

Kids aren't stupid and see what is going on.
 
QueBert said:
So people are wishing death on a father, how lovely! Anyone wishing death on a mother or father deserve to die themselves.

I don't want to be in the vicinity of anyone who's an asshole on that level. So this is my official goodbye I'm gone from this place for good. So many pathetic fucks on here.

peace...
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Are you an addict yourself? Is that why you're sympathizing so adamantly? Some children are better off without parents.....parents who neglect them, abuse them, don't give a shit about them. I'm not saying people don't deserve a chance to make things right, but I don't believe in 5th, 6th, 7th chances. If you do not think about your kids without a father the FIRST time this happens, then you're too selfish for anybody here to care about.

Fuck-ups and their sympathizers always want people to nurture and sympathize for people that chose their own paths. After a certain point, that doesn't work and tough love is needed. If the comments here don't offer a wake up call, then its just a matter of time before Darwin answers the call.

I've seen many threads where people here offer support to people who need it or deserve it. There have been lots of posts supporting ZJ and he keeps fucking up. Do you seriously think the supporting comments here are going to help him and that we'll never see another thread like this again? Well there are plenty of people before who thought the same thing and here we are again.

TWO DAUGHTERS........they're the ones who need your sympathy

Quebert, you might want to stay away from the internet if you can't handle comments like that. We wouldn't want you to get hurt falling off that high horse.
 
PimpJuice said:
Are you an addict yourself? Is that why you're sympathizing so adamantly? Some children are better off without parents.....parents who neglect them, abuse them, don't give a shit about them. I'm not saying people don't deserve a chance to make things right, but I don't believe in 5th, 6th, 7th chances. If you do not think about your kids without a father the FIRST time this happens, then you're too selfish for anybody here to care about.

Fuck-ups and their sympathizers always want people to nurture and sympathize for people that chose their own paths. After a certain point, that doesn't work and tough love is needed. If the comments here don't offer a wake up call, then its just a matter of time before Darwin answers the call.

I've seen many threads where people here offer support to people who need it or deserve it. There have been lots of posts supporting ZJ and he keeps fucking up. Do you seriously think the supporting comments here are going to help him and that we'll never see another thread like this again? Well there are plenty of people before who thought the same thing and here we are again.

TWO DAUGHTERS........they're the ones who need your sympathy

Quebert, you might want to stay away from the internet if you can't handle comments like that. We wouldn't want you to get hurt falling off that high horse.
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regardless of how many times a person screws up, they should be given support if they are clearly requesting it or trying to correct their behavior. People screw up or fall off the wagon all the time. Does this mean we as a society should just give up on them? Or should we try to help our fellow man become productive members of society? Yes Zj screws up, but we keep supporting he in the HOPE that he will get better and he WILL break this horrible addiction. The last thing anyone fighting any kind of addiction is to be told that they do not deserve to live. What kind of mind frame do you think that puts the person in most need of the support?

I do agree that his kid(s) do need to be taken out of that situation if they are indeed experiencing it. At least until the person fighting can prove that they have control of themselves for a length of time.
 
jeanclaude said:
What is it with people tossing out this relativistic “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone” nonsense as a justification for dismissing anyone who thinks that the OP deserves all the shit he has received?

And what is it with the apparent sanctity, for some people, regarding drug use / abuse, which makes it use immune from criticism or comment? Sympathy and compassion seems to be the only permissible response. I am assuming the logic employed is - if you have ever engaged in recreational drug or alcohol use you have lost any moral or ethical standing in which to criticize others who willfully abuse such stuff. So essentially no one in this day and age can comment. That is such horseshit.

This simplistic type of equivalency deliberately ignores self-restraint and responsibility for one’s actions especially in regards to others. He made a choice and he must deal with the consequences. The whole point of that sin parable is to encourage reflection and compassion when making judgments upon others not to deny one the right or moral authority to render such judgments. The OP is an idiot junkie who got lucky. Another stone has been cast. Deal with it.


And adios quebert.
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I, for one, welcome our new, rational, Belgie member.

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zanejohnson said:
i'm gonna post an update:

first off, yes, this is completely true...as was the story about me getting hit with the bat at wal-mart...and yes, i posted both here...and of course shens was called..as it always is..

so lets clear the air... i have two daughters, you can see pics of both on my myspace which i see you've already found...please dont post anything there, i wouldnt post in your myspace. thank you.

secondly... the reason i post here is because all though they are are few, there are some good people here. i'm going through alot of shit right now in my life, and i'm honestly trying to do better...if i could just switch the addiction off i would. cant you see that? i cant even tell you now that i would never use again.. but i can tell you that i do not want to, i dont want that life anymore. this experience has really shook me up, to the core... i'm recovering, i've began seeing a psychiatrist, but it's gonna be a rough road... i cant really move around yet, that's why i havent been back here to update... anyway, im excited about tommorow... i get to see my kids.. they dont live with me, they live with there mother... and she's very strong, they are not around drugs where they are..... anyway, i'm tired of typing...

oh one last thing... the friend that ate the other half is just fine, opoid tolerance and all... that and something about this time was just different.. i mean, i honestly had myself convinced opiates couldnt kill me, i've done some massive IV doses in my day and been fine.... but this time.... it wasnt fine... it was so quick and then the next thing i know i was waking up in ICU and everyone was in awe that i survived..including myself.... i'm really gonna try to change some shit this time... i feel like i cheated death almost, so i better be on top of my shit from here on out... it's almost like im throwing in the towel on the opiate abuse.... i always thought withdrawal was a good reason to use... nah, fuck that. withdrawal dont have shit on the pain i've felt this last week...
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If you are serious about this, then might I suggest you start a journal to keep up. You need to hold yourself accountable for your actions, you also need a place to put your thoughts, good times, bad times the pains of withdrawal, the highs of freedom from addiction somewhere where you could reflect on it in the future, as well a a reminder of your past and what you do not want anymore. keep your head up, you are going to undergo a transformation and it will be painful. Hopefully what lies ahead will be a new life without the heartaches and pains of this previous life. One day hopefully, you can impact another with your words and experiences and help them clean up. That is a distant future, but one that could enrich your own life as well as that of others.

Good luck.

edit: I should note, that this is for personal use, you should definitely seek professional help.
 
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Zane needs help, serious professional help. None (or VERY few) here are possible of giving any good advice other than just that. Seek professional help immediately, frequently if needed. Good luck.

His children are better off without him until his issues are resolved. That isn't always possible.

Sucks that medical care has be be used so much in these cases, tax payer paid or not, junkies who OD put huge stress on the system. Of course it's double the burden if tax payers have to pick up the tab.
 
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