Wanted: Julian Assange

[nick1985]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/18/sweden-seeks-detain-assange-rape-case/?test=latestnews

" Swedish prosecutors said they will seek an international arrest warrant for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange after a court approved their request Thursday to detain him for questioning in a rape case.

The Australian is suspected of rape, sexual molestation and unlawful coercion in an investigation that stems from his encounters with two women during a visit to Sweden in August.

He has denied the allegations and insisted his sexual relations with the women were consensual."


Interesting...I knew he had been accused of this in the past, but didn't think anything came of it. Looks like he may be in some hot water.

 

[ichy]

I wish that someone would kill that prick.

 

[PokerGuy]

Sounds like this is just a matter of pressure being put on by certain governments and organizations that don't like his actions. Trumped up charges probably.

 

[Throckmorton]

Forget this. I want more information on our Afghan allies who he exposed with the leaks. What happened to them? Are any of them confirmed to have been killed because of the leaks? I was arguing with a hippy the other day on Facebook and there were very very few articles that even addressed that part of the leaks.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

I wish that someone would kill that prick.

Why? Has he been charged with a crime and convicted?

Or do you just support random murders of anyone you personally don't like?

 

[Vette73]

Sounds like this is just a matter of pressure being put on by certain governments and organizations that don't like his actions. Trumped up charges probably.

Yea the orignal story was 2 women were raped by him and JUST BY CHANCE they happen to meet up, said they did not know each other before, and relized they were both raped by the same guy.

Not sure if that was the full part but there are holes in the story that don't seem to add up.

 

[PJABBER]

I, too, would like to see the material harm that has been caused by WikiLeaks quantified.

If any deaths, torture, kidnapping, rape, etc. were caused by this moron and his organization they should be held accountable in a criminal court as enablers and accessories.

I am for as open a government as possible, but the wholesale release of information held confidential in whole or in part to protect the lives of sources and parties engaged in the course of a war needs to be considered a deliberate action to endanger those sources.

As to this guy's personal life as a possible serial rapist, that is best handled separately through the legal system where those alleged crimes occurred. His WikiLeaks activities are completely separate and apart from those.

 

[SunnyD]

I, too, would like to see the material harm that has been caused by WikiLeaks quantified.

If any deaths, torture, kidnapping, rape, etc. were caused by this moron and his organization they should be held accountable in a criminal court as enablers and accessories.

I am for as open a government as possible, but the wholesale release of information held confidential in whole or in part to protect the lives of sources and parties engaged in the course of a war needs to be considered a deliberate action to endanger those sources.

As to this guy's personal life as a possible serial rapist, that is best handled separately through the legal system where those alleged crimes occurred. His WikiLeaks activities are completely separate and apart from those.

You may as well begin prosecuting every corporation and every government in the world then, since every single one out there has or will cause the same thing one way or another.

 

[yllus]

I guess "frame the messenger" goes over better than "kill the messenger".

 

[bamacre]

Sounds like this is just a matter of pressure being put on by certain governments and organizations that don't like his actions. Trumped up charges probably.

That is what this sounds like to me.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

That is what this sounds like to me.

Why?

Obviously the investigation has been extensive since it's taken such a long time and the charges have changed during that time, this would lead me to believe that the initial reporting was done before anyone really knew what was going on, not very uncommon.

It's noteworthy that the warrant is an European warrant, not a Swedish one, that means that there is physical evidence as well as witnesses and at least two evaluations of the victims stories.

I sincerely doubt this has ANYTHING to do with who Julian Assage is, which is a frontfigure for WikiLeaks with no real power over the site itself. He's only one of many who are responsible for the site but the man likes the fame so he is the frontfigure.

 

[Vette73]

Why?

Obviously the investigation has been extensive since it's taken such a long time and the charges have changed during that time, this would lead me to believe that the initial reporting was done before anyone really knew what was going on, not very uncommon.

It's noteworthy that the warrant is an European warrant, not a Swedish one, that means that there is physical evidence as well as witnesses and at least two evaluations of the victims stories.

I sincerely doubt this has ANYTHING to do with who Julian Assage is, which is a frontfigure for WikiLeaks with no real power over the site itself. He's only one of many who are responsible for the site but the man likes the fame so he is the frontfigure.

Yea these 2 women that "did not know each other" before being raped by the same guy just happend to be raped and just happend to meet each other right after wikileaks broke their story.

Yea nothing fishy there.

 

[PokerGuy]

Why?

The guy has made extremely powerful enemies that would go to great lengths to silence him and his site. I don't know if the charges are true or not, but if I had to bet money I'd bet it on that he's getting set up as a way to silence him without having to outright off him. Offing him at this point would be messy and might cause further embarrassing information to come out.....

 

[Sinsear]

I wish that someone would kill that prick.

Too far. Maybe bad accident; I'm thinking paralysis.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Yea these 2 women that "did not know each other" before being raped by the same guy just happend to be raped and just happend to meet each other right after wikileaks broke their story.

Yea nothing fishy there.

You'll have to link me to the story that says that.

Also note that the charges are for one instance of rape, several instances of sexual molestation and one instance of unlawful coercion so there is more to it than the original story which was printed BEFORE the investigation started and BEFORE charges were being brought and was completely wrong.

 

[PokerGuy]

He could actually be guilty, but it's just as likely that the powers that be want him shut up. Coming up with some nifty charges just right after he releases a bunch of information (coincidence of course!) is very convenient to that end.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

The guy has made extremely powerful enemies that would go to great lengths to silence him and his site. I don't know if the charges are true or not, but if I had to bet money I'd bet it on that he's getting set up as a way to silence him without having to outright off him. Offing him at this point would be messy and might cause further embarrassing information to come out.....

Let's say he dies, it won't do anything at all when it comes to WikiLeaks, he's the public figure, it's like killing Obamas PR guy to change the US politics, it's fucking retarded.

 

[PokerGuy]

Let's say he dies, it won't do anything at all when it comes to WikiLeaks, he's the public figure, it's like killing Obamas PR guy to change the US politics, it's fucking retarded.

And you don't suppose that might send a strong message to anyone who wants to pick up where he left off?

 

[IcePickFreak]

Sounds like this is just a matter of pressure being put on by certain governments and organizations that don't like his actions. Trumped up charges probably.

If you don't want to play the game, don't step out onto the field. I'm surprised he hasn't had an "accident" already. I'd say getting hit up with some false charges like this are way on the less harsh side of the scale of things that could happen to him for what he's doing, if they are actually false charges in the first place.

Not saying the info he releases should be hidden away, but exposing this stuff while it's current is a pretty much guaranteed way to make yourself one of those nefarious plots.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

You may as well begin prosecuting every corporation and every government in the world then, since every single one out there has or will cause the same thing one way or another.

Interesting; every government and corporation has lead to murder, torture, kidnapping and rape or will.

I didn't know anyone was arguing for the prosecution of governments and corporations for pre-crimes.

Can you please offer some support for your argument that over a reasonable time line all corporations will have raped, murdered, tortured and kidnapped?

Except in the most radically mindless discourse can we find someone espousing the level stupidity coming out of your... well I'll argue finger tips.

I would like to note that I don't think you are trolling; In-fact I think you are simply stupid beyond comprehension and incapable of defending event the slightest aspect of your hyperbolic point of view.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

And you don't suppose that might send a strong message to anyone who wants to pick up where he left off?

He's not in charge of WikiLeaks as many seem to think, no one actually has to be a public front figure for WikiLeaks, the site exists on its own with the contributors being people who have no affiliation to the site and the ones in charge of the site being people who determine what goes up there and what doesn't, Julian is the one who talks to the press, nothing more and nothing less, his existance is irrelevant to the existance of WikiLeaks.

I sincerely doubt he's being framed, such an extensive investigation would indeed find out if that was the case unless you're saying that the attorney is in on it too?

The attorney wouldn't file a European warrent if he/she isn't absolutely certain that he's going to get a conviction, there has to be enough evidence to even get a European warrant out.

 

[shira]

I, too, would like to see the material harm that has been caused by WikiLeaks quantified.

If any deaths, torture, kidnapping, rape, etc. were caused by this moron and his organization they should be held accountable in a criminal court as enablers and accessories.

I am for as open a government as possible, but the wholesale release of information held confidential in whole or in part to protect the lives of sources and parties engaged in the course of a war needs to be considered a deliberate action to endanger those sources.

As to this guy's personal life as a possible serial rapist, that is best handled separately through the legal system where those alleged crimes occurred. His WikiLeaks activities are completely separate and apart from those.

I forget: Did you make a similar post after Valerie Plame's identity was leaked?

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

I forget: Did you make a similar post after Valerie Plame's identity was leaked?

I wonder if he was pushing for prosecution of Blackwater and it's mercs for all the problems they caused in Iraq. I'm guessing no.

 

[alkemyst]

Why? Has he been charged with a crime and convicted?

Or do you just support random murders of anyone you personally don't like?

I think Ichy may be a victim.

 

[PJABBER]

I forget: Did you make a similar post after Valerie Plame's identity was leaked?

Richard Armitage admitted to revealing her as an employee of the CIA (when she was no longer in a covert role and, if I recall, herself otherwise letting people know who she worked for.)

What happened to him and why was he not prosecuted?