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piasabird

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Yeah like that design guy that makes the paintings. He screams Gay all day long. Strangely, I just think he is a nice guy. Subconsciously, I knew he was gay but it did not really bother me enough to change the channel. It is not a very big shock that there are gay people. They are everywhere, to some extent. I cant see how protesting would help to change people's minds even if you disagree with their lifestyle.

There comes a point where you have to choose not to hate people you don't agree with. I don't drink, but I don't protest in front of bars and stores that sell alcoholic beverages. Some people just want to get their way. This is sometimes about power and controlling people. Straights want to control people and Gays want to control people. They are both just as evil in their tactics.
 

DominionSeraph

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You can't be fired for practicing your religion if the employer knows about it when hired. You can be fired if you bring it up after you're hired.

No. A business must make reasonable accommodation.

http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/religion.cfm

Religious Discrimination
Religious discrimination involves treating a person (an applicant or employee) unfavorably because of his or her religious beliefs. The law protects not only people who belong to traditional, organized religions, such as Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, and Judaism, but also others who have sincerely held religious, ethical or moral beliefs.

Religious discrimination can also involve treating someone differently because that person is married to (or associated with) an individual of a particular religion or because of his or her connection with a religious organization or group.

Religious Discrimination & Work Situations
The law forbids discrimination when it comes to any aspect of employment, including hiring, firing, pay, job assignments, promotions, layoff, training, fringe benefits, and any other term or condition of employment.

Religious Discrimination & Harassment
It is illegal to harass a person because of his or her religion.

Harassment can include, for example, offensive remarks about a person’s religious beliefs or practices. Although the law doesn’t prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that aren’t very serious, harassment is illegal when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile or offensive work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted).

The harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker, or someone who is not an employee of the employer, such as a client or customer.

Religious Discrimination and Segregation
Title VII also prohibits workplace or job segregation based on religion (including religious garb and grooming practices), such as assigning an employee to a non-customer contact position because of actual or feared customer preference.
Religious Discrimination & Reasonable Accommodation
The law requires an employer or other covered entity to reasonably accommodate an employee’s religious beliefs or practices, unless doing so would cause more than a minimal burden on the operations of the employer's business. This means an employer may be required to make reasonable adjustments to the work environment that will allow an employee to practice his or her religion.

Examples of some common religious accommodations include flexible scheduling, voluntary shift substitutions or swaps, job reassignments, and modifications to workplace policies or practices.

Religious Accommodation/Dress & Grooming Policies
Unless it would be an undue hardship on the employer's operation of its business, an employer must reasonably accommodate an employee's religious beliefs or practices. This applies not only to schedule changes or leave for religious observances, but also to such things as dress or grooming practices that an employee has for religious reasons. These might include, for example, wearing particular head coverings or other religious dress (such as a Jewish yarmulke or a Muslim headscarf), or wearing certain hairstyles or facial hair (such as Rastafarian dreadlocks or Sikh uncut hair and beard). It also includes an employee's observance of a religious prohibition against wearing certain garments (such as pants or miniskirts).

When an employee or applicant needs a dress or grooming accommodation for religious reasons, he should notify the employer that he needs such an accommodation for religious reasons. If the employer reasonably needs more information, the employer and the employee should engage in an interactive process to discuss the request. If it would not pose an undue hardship, the employer must grant the accommodation.

Religious Discrimination & Reasonable Accommodation & Undue Hardship
An employer does not have to accommodate an employee’s religious beliefs or practices if doing so would cause undue hardship to the employer. An accommodation may cause undue hardship if it is costly, compromises workplace safety, decreases workplace efficiency, infringes on the rights of other employees, or requires other employees to do more than their share of potentially hazardous or burdensome work.

Religious Discrimination And Employment Policies/Practices
An employee cannot be forced to participate (or not participate) in a religious activity as a condition of employment.
 

alzan

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I also agree that it is overreaching when people are fired for facebook/blog posts, but it would also be prudent on our behalf to keep in mind what sort of world we live in.

But I also think there is a difference when political views negatively impact a company's business interests.

Prudent, yes and also due diligence to affect change when necessary.

I acknowledge the difference but question the notion that an employees' political views on any subject can necessarily negatively impact the company's business interest. More often it is the case that an employees political views are distasteful and not inline with the views of a company's chief officers or directors.

If I were an employees of XYZ corp. whose business were the mfr. of processed foods, that made an entry on my own time to my personal online blog to the effect that people should eat healthier foods and to avoid processed foods; should I be sued for "negatively impacting business interests"?
 

HomerJS

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So states have laws on the books you can be fired just for being gay, ok.

Company fires someone for supporting anti-gay causes, not ok


Logic fail
 

MooseNSquirrel

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Ah the liberal bogeyman, he causes so much false equivalence!

If you go up on stage during an event for your company and start spouting Bible dogma about women, you wont be fired because you are Christian, you will be fired for being stupid.
 
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Hopefully the brothers will sue HGTV for violating their civil rights.

In what sense do you believe their civil rights were violated? Last I checked, the Constitution contained few if any references to citizens' inalienable right to host a reality TV show.
 

mikeymikec

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Doing or saying things that reflect badly on the network would be a matter of opinion, would it not?

Yes, the opinions of the bosses of the network, unless a survey can be performed of all the people who currently watch shows or might be inclined to watch shows from that network in future.

Equal rights eh? What a load of bullshit... except for those without equal rights.
 

brycejones

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Targeting of Christians not found. Targeting of homophobic bigots is found.

Hint for the OP. Not all Christians are afraid of homosexuals. Don't lump me into your little hate party.
 

werepossum

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There were straight guys on HGTV?
LOL +1 Well - there WOULD have been.

A hearty 'meh' is given. HGTV is almost entirely gay, and gays are over-represented in Hollywood in general. If one wants to play in that pond, probably best to not be actively campaigning against acceptance of so many of one's coworkers.
 

Vic

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HGTV isn't paying them to air their views on Political/Social issues. It is paying them to talking about their views on flipping houses.

Interesting that apparently liberals don't want to watch shows about house flipping that contains people that disagree with them.

How tolerant and open minded!

Wrong. HGTV was paying them to supply advertising revenue. Their outspoken opinions on a controversial issue would likely discourage advertisers and cost HGTV revenue. Hence, fired.
 
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