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[CPA]

Originally posted by: Tobolo
It is true. Here is an article about it on PCMag with a link to the law.

Article

did you read the law? I did. Pull up the law and search for "computer" and "repair". The ACLU and the reporter are interpreting the law incorrectly.

 

[insect9]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
wee veronica mars fixing ur comp

anyways, guess this is how the legislation passed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG6X-xtVask

Wow, what the fuck...

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: dhcloud

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
wee veronica mars fixing ur comp

anyways, guess this is how the legislation passed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG6X-xtVask

Wow, what the fuck...

I don't think that's at all uncommon, and I don't think there's really anything wrong with it either as long as the absent person grants permission. Well, there is a problem if half the legislature isn't there normally, but we don't know if that's the case. As long as the proper vote is cast, does it really matter how it happened? The news is trying to call them hypocrites for passing a law that would prohibit a person from dropping off a ballot for another person; the difference in the two situations is obvious. In the case of the legislature, it's easy to confirm that the right vote was cast. In an election, it's impossible to confirm that your surrogate didn't alter your ballot.

 

[insect9]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dhcloud

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
wee veronica mars fixing ur comp

anyways, guess this is how the legislation passed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG6X-xtVask

Wow, what the fuck...

I don't think that's at all uncommon, and I don't think there's really anything wrong with it either as long as the absent person grants permission. Well, there is a problem if half the legislature isn't there normally, but we don't know if that's the case. As long as the proper vote is cast, does it really matter how it happened? The news is trying to call them hypocrites for passing a law that would prohibit a person from dropping off a ballot for another person; the difference in the two situations is obvious. In the case of the legislature, it's easy to confirm that the right vote was cast. In an election, it's impossible to confirm that your surrogate didn't alter your ballot.

They stated in the video that what they are doing is against the law... From what I saw, it looked like a huge scramble to cast as many votes as possible. That may not be the case, but if I vote for an elected official, I expect them to do the job and cast the vote themselves. It does not matter if it is not uncommon, it SHOULD be uncommon. Just because something might happen a lot doesn't mean it should just be accepted.

 

[allisolm]

Originally posted by: loup garou

Oh, and that's bad news for zanejohnson! :shocked:

That's the first thing I thought of. :laugh:

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Isn't cleaning a PC of spyware and/or viruses an investigation into the contents of data on a PC? Isn't that something that a regular PC shop is likely to handle?

no. read the frickin' list instead of just crappy articles written by people who, like you, didn't bother reading the frickin' law first.


THE SKY IS FALLING!

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
I could see how the law could be construed to include stuff like this, but if that wasn't the original intent of the law, do you really think they will go after any legitimate repair businesses? The law was enacted in 2007, right? Have any businesses even been fined yet? If such mundane activities were included in the law, surely every PC repair business in Texas would have been fined by now.

afaik, no one has been fined under this law for doing a spyware scan. someone might have been doing a forensic investigation and been fined. but that's not what anyone is worried about.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: dhcloud

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dhcloud

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
wee veronica mars fixing ur comp

anyways, guess this is how the legislation passed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG6X-xtVask

Wow, what the fuck...

I don't think that's at all uncommon, and I don't think there's really anything wrong with it either as long as the absent person grants permission. Well, there is a problem if half the legislature isn't there normally, but we don't know if that's the case. As long as the proper vote is cast, does it really matter how it happened? The news is trying to call them hypocrites for passing a law that would prohibit a person from dropping off a ballot for another person; the difference in the two situations is obvious. In the case of the legislature, it's easy to confirm that the right vote was cast. In an election, it's impossible to confirm that your surrogate didn't alter your ballot.

They stated in the video that what they are doing is against the law... From what I saw, it looked like a huge scramble to cast as many votes as possible. That may not be the case, but if I vote for an elected official, I expect them to do the job and cast the vote themselves. It does not matter if it is not uncommon, it SHOULD be uncommon. Just because something might happen a lot doesn't mean it should just be accepted.

Just because something might happen a lot doesn't mean it should be accepted. But you haven't given any reason why it shouldn't be accepted. As long as the vote that is cast is the will of the legislator whose vote it is, what is the problem?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: mugs

Just because something might happen a lot doesn't mean it should be accepted. But you haven't given any reason why it shouldn't be accepted. As long as the vote that is cast is the will of the legislator whose vote it is, what is the problem?

there isn't, but the problem is we don't know that it's being cast that way.

 

[insect9]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dhcloud

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dhcloud

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
wee veronica mars fixing ur comp

anyways, guess this is how the legislation passed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG6X-xtVask

Wow, what the fuck...

I don't think that's at all uncommon, and I don't think there's really anything wrong with it either as long as the absent person grants permission. Well, there is a problem if half the legislature isn't there normally, but we don't know if that's the case. As long as the proper vote is cast, does it really matter how it happened? The news is trying to call them hypocrites for passing a law that would prohibit a person from dropping off a ballot for another person; the difference in the two situations is obvious. In the case of the legislature, it's easy to confirm that the right vote was cast. In an election, it's impossible to confirm that your surrogate didn't alter your ballot.

They stated in the video that what they are doing is against the law... From what I saw, it looked like a huge scramble to cast as many votes as possible. That may not be the case, but if I vote for an elected official, I expect them to do the job and cast the vote themselves. It does not matter if it is not uncommon, it SHOULD be uncommon. Just because something might happen a lot doesn't mean it should just be accepted.

Just because something might happen a lot doesn't mean it should be accepted. But you haven't given any reason why it shouldn't be accepted. As long as the vote that is cast is the will of the legislator whose vote it is, what is the problem?

And you can guarantee it is the vote of the legislator? They don't really seem to me to care much in the video. I wonder how many of those legislators don't give a shit who votes for them or how when they aren't there. Only speculation, but so is saying there is no problem when legislators ignore rules just because it might be the correct yes/no vote. As a voter, I don't want to be represented by the guy sitting in the seat next to my legislator.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: dhcloud
And you can guarantee it is the vote of the legislator? They don't really seem to me to care much in the video. I wonder how many of those legislators don't give a shit who votes for them or how when they aren't there. Only speculation, but so is saying there is no problem when legislators ignore rules just because it might be the correct yes/no vote. As a voter, I don't want to be represented by the guy sitting in the seat next to my legislator.

The legislator whose vote was cast can confirm that it was the correct vote.

 

[insect9]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dhcloud
And you can guarantee it is the vote of the legislator? They don't really seem to me to care much in the video. I wonder how many of those legislators don't give a shit who votes for them or how when they aren't there. Only speculation, but so is saying there is no problem when legislators ignore rules just because it might be the correct yes/no vote. As a voter, I don't want to be represented by the guy sitting in the seat next to my legislator.

The legislator whose vote was cast can confirm that it was the correct vote.

So? That does not matter. Do you know how many times a vote has been cast without the legislator knowing how he/she voted? Or how many times they didn't bother to confirm? I don't, and I would guess they don't either. It is against the rules/law, so they should not do it. It's really that simple.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: dhcloud

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dhcloud
And you can guarantee it is the vote of the legislator? They don't really seem to me to care much in the video. I wonder how many of those legislators don't give a shit who votes for them or how when they aren't there. Only speculation, but so is saying there is no problem when legislators ignore rules just because it might be the correct yes/no vote. As a voter, I don't want to be represented by the guy sitting in the seat next to my legislator.

The legislator whose vote was cast can confirm that it was the correct vote.

So? That does not matter. Do you know how many times a vote has been cast without the legislator knowing how he/she voted? Or how many times they didn't bother to confirm? I don't, and I would guess they don't either. It is against the rules/law, so they should not do it. It's really that simple.

I guess if you're a simple-minded person who needs the law to tell you what is right and wrong, then it really is that simple.

 

[insect9]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dhcloud

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dhcloud
And you can guarantee it is the vote of the legislator? They don't really seem to me to care much in the video. I wonder how many of those legislators don't give a shit who votes for them or how when they aren't there. Only speculation, but so is saying there is no problem when legislators ignore rules just because it might be the correct yes/no vote. As a voter, I don't want to be represented by the guy sitting in the seat next to my legislator.

The legislator whose vote was cast can confirm that it was the correct vote.

So? That does not matter. Do you know how many times a vote has been cast without the legislator knowing how he/she voted? Or how many times they didn't bother to confirm? I don't, and I would guess they don't either. It is against the rules/law, so they should not do it. It's really that simple.

I guess if you're a simple-minded person who needs the law to tell you what is right and wrong, then it really is that simple.

Hmm, your right. Legislators should be able to just ignore the laws they don't like just because they are too lazy to show up. I don't need the law to tell me what is right and wrong. I vote for a legislator, I want that legislator to cast his own vote. Not leave it up to someone else. How can you guarantee they confirm their own vote every time they don't show up? I guess if you're a simple minded person and don't care either way what your legislator does, it's ok right?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: dhcloud

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dhcloud

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dhcloud
And you can guarantee it is the vote of the legislator? They don't really seem to me to care much in the video. I wonder how many of those legislators don't give a shit who votes for them or how when they aren't there. Only speculation, but so is saying there is no problem when legislators ignore rules just because it might be the correct yes/no vote. As a voter, I don't want to be represented by the guy sitting in the seat next to my legislator.

The legislator whose vote was cast can confirm that it was the correct vote.

So? That does not matter. Do you know how many times a vote has been cast without the legislator knowing how he/she voted? Or how many times they didn't bother to confirm? I don't, and I would guess they don't either. It is against the rules/law, so they should not do it. It's really that simple.

I guess if you're a simple-minded person who needs the law to tell you what is right and wrong, then it really is that simple.

Hmm, your right. Legislators should be able to just ignore the laws they don't like just because they are too lazy to show up. I don't need the law to tell me what is right and wrong. I vote for a legislator, I want that legislator to cast his own vote. Not leave it up to someone else. How can you guarantee they confirm their own vote every time they don't show up? I guess if you're a simple minded person and don't care either way what your legislator does, it's ok right?

There is a tremendous disincentive to casting the wrong vote for another person. It would likely be a career-ending mistake. That is why I believe that the legislators in the video had permission to cast the votes they cast.

 

[insect9]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dhcloud

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dhcloud

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: dhcloud
And you can guarantee it is the vote of the legislator? They don't really seem to me to care much in the video. I wonder how many of those legislators don't give a shit who votes for them or how when they aren't there. Only speculation, but so is saying there is no problem when legislators ignore rules just because it might be the correct yes/no vote. As a voter, I don't want to be represented by the guy sitting in the seat next to my legislator.

The legislator whose vote was cast can confirm that it was the correct vote.

So? That does not matter. Do you know how many times a vote has been cast without the legislator knowing how he/she voted? Or how many times they didn't bother to confirm? I don't, and I would guess they don't either. It is against the rules/law, so they should not do it. It's really that simple.

I guess if you're a simple-minded person who needs the law to tell you what is right and wrong, then it really is that simple.

Hmm, your right. Legislators should be able to just ignore the laws they don't like just because they are too lazy to show up. I don't need the law to tell me what is right and wrong. I vote for a legislator, I want that legislator to cast his own vote. Not leave it up to someone else. How can you guarantee they confirm their own vote every time they don't show up? I guess if you're a simple minded person and don't care either way what your legislator does, it's ok right?

There is a tremendous disincentive to casting the wrong vote for another person. It would likely be a career-ending mistake. That is why I believe that the legislators in the video had permission to cast the votes they cast.

They also don't care if it is against any rules, and the speaker doesn't care about enforcing the rules. Again, no, rules shouldn't be the end all/be all of moral guidence, but to just ignore them doesn't demonstrate very much honesty. If the house does not punish the ones who break the rules, what makes you think they care?

 

[TheVrolok]

WTF is wrong with Texas? Good lord.

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: loup garou
what
the
fuck

Oh, and that's bad news for zanejohnson! :shocked:

hahahha, that guy disappeared...again.

Does that mean Geek Squad kids are screwed? hahaha

Serious WTF?!?!?!?!?!

 

[BladeVenom]

Originally posted by: mugs
That is why I believe that the legislators in the video had permission to cast the votes they cast.

And some people believe in the tooth fairy. I see no accountability there. It looks like a mad scramble to cast votes the way they want them cast. It's also against their own rules. I'd sooner turn my back on an axe murderer with a bloody axe, than to trust a politician to be honest.

No one should be allowed to cast another persons vote, especially not politicians. There should be someone in their chair when voting begins for it to count. Either the elected politician or someone from his office publicly appointed by him. No one should be casting more than one vote.

 

[savvy]

What is this I don't even.

 

[Eli]

WTF??

Are you fscking kidding me?

:laugh:

 

[hellokeith]

Meh, this is about legal-related (civil, criminal) investigations. Has nothing to do with Geek Squad or the like. Besides if you take your computer to Geek Squad, it's likely to come back with less or no data.

Unsurprisingly, an ultra liberal like rightiswrong grossly misinterprets the law change and then tries to make Texas look bad.

/thread

 

[IEC]

RTFA applies.