Want to have some fun?

OfficeLinebacker

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Want to do something fun? Want to get to know other people by testing your wits against theirs in a friendly, structured manner?

Then join our fantasy NASCAR league! It's fun, even if you don't know NASCAR. As a matter of fact, I bet that at least one of you joins and plays and makes a point not to watch a single race, but just play the numbers just to see how many people you beat!

The group name is eTL5Life and the password is :poop: (yeah it allows punctuation in the password)

http://racing.fantasysports.yahoo.com/auto/group/30858

Another cool thing about this is you can set it to email you a reminder one day in advance of when the picks lock.

Let's get it on ATOTers! Feel free to invite other peeps as well.
 

OfficeLinebacker

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Originally posted by: Schadenfreude
Originally posted by: scottish144
Redneck I am not.

First thing I thought as soon as I saw the word "NASCAR" on this thread.

No thanks. :roll:

I understand the societal cues that would make one associate NASCAR with the term "redneck," but NASCAR != Redneck.
 
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Originally posted by: OfficeLinebacker
Originally posted by: Schadenfreude
Originally posted by: scottish144
Redneck I am not.

First thing I thought as soon as I saw the word "NASCAR" on this thread.

No thanks. :roll:

I understand the societal cues that would make one associate NASCAR with the term "redneck," but NASCAR != Redneck.

Oh, I'm sorry, what could I have been thinking?

I meant "hillbilly".
 

OfficeLinebacker

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Originally posted by: Schadenfreude
Originally posted by: OfficeLinebacker
Originally posted by: Schadenfreude
Originally posted by: scottish144
Redneck I am not.

First thing I thought as soon as I saw the word "NASCAR" on this thread.

No thanks. :roll:

I understand the societal cues that would make one associate NASCAR with the term "redneck," but NASCAR != Redneck.

Oh, I'm sorry, what could I have been thinking?

I meant "hillbilly".

Why?
 

1sikbITCH

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I do not like racing at all.
However referring to NASCAR fans as rednecks and hillbillies showcases a lack of education that might be expected of say... rednecks and hillbillies. NASCAR has evolved.

http://www.gnextinc.com/demographics.html

You'll find similar numbers in every survey taken and the numbers keep improving each year:

91% of NASCAR fans are high school graduates and 75% have at least some college education, or are college graduates.
74% of NASCAR fans own their own homes.
74% of NASCAR fans own two or more automobiles.
80% of NASCAR fans carry a major credit card.
The average income of a NASCAR fan is $43,280 annually, the average income of a family of four is $60,000.
1 in 5 NASCAR fans have a income of $75,000 or greater.
36% of NASCAR fans earn $50,000+ per year
10.1% of NASCAR fans are African-American, compared to 11.7% of NFL

African American rednecks are the worst!

 

OfficeLinebacker

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Ka-ka click, click, BOOYAH!

Great stats, I know it from experience, having a Master's Degree and working in IT in the financial sector. Whiter than rice and erudite as a mofo.

I love racing though. Can't get enough of it.

You know those cars SLAM into each other at 180 MPH? I mean the ones that finish.

Yeah they call it bump drafting.

Imagine you and your friends out messing around, ramming each other. cutting each other off at the local karting track.

Only at 180MPH in 3,000 lb, 450 HP Machines.

Yeah.
 

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I live near a NASCAR track. I don't want to have anything more to do with these people than I do now. Quote stats all you want, but just looking at the sheer number of Bud Light and Natural Light cans that pile up tells me these people != me.
 

OfficeLinebacker

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Hey, nothing wrong with declining, but with all due respect, quit threadcrapping.

If you want to discuss the association of NASCAR with "Redneckness" or whatever, the ATOT forum is your oyster.

However, THIS thread is about OUR AWESOME FANTASY LEAGUE so for the rest of us who are here to discuss FANTASY NASCAR with other ATOTers, let's have some fun!
 

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I miss the old days when racing was fun and dangerous, and the competetion was as much about the tech as it was the drivers. Think LeMans in the 1960s
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: OfficeLinebacker
Wow, this thread really took off!

thats because ATOT has a major mob mentality. Nascar is bashed majorely here. So even though there are a bunch of people that enjoy it they will not come out and admit it.

while i do enjoy watching nascar i do not see the point of a legue.
 

dandruff

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Originally posted by: 1sikbITCH
I do not like racing at all.
However referring to NASCAR fans as rednecks and hillbillies showcases a lack of education that might be expected of say... rednecks and hillbillies. NASCAR has evolved.

Sure Sure - if that was the case - there would not be such a drive and effort to change that image - now they are even including congress members to start initiatives .. money is green ... and they want non-redneck money too now ... if it was truly a evolved national sport - u wouldnt need drives like this from NASCRAP ... and this is a weekold article ...

also this was frontpage news - and look at the subtitle - they printed "REDNECK" on the frontpage of KC Star which is a redneck area ... here is the article:

Circuit seeks to shed redneck image
NASCAR takes a run at minorities
By MATT STEARNS
The Star?s Washington CorrespondentWASHINGTON ?? Think NASCAR and a couple of images pop to mind: Fast cars. White people.

NASCAR officials want to change half of that equation. On Wednesday, joined by members of Congress, they announced the latest in a string of initiatives designed to put the image into the pits.


?We believe strongly that the old Southeastern redneck heritage that we?ve had is no longer in existence,? NASCAR president Mike Helton said. ?But we also realize there?s going to have to be an effort on our part to convince others to understand that.?
The new effort is a partnership with the nation?s historically black colleges and universities to encourage minority students to pursue careers in automotive technology in general and in stock car racing specifically.

?The goal is to recruit, train, place and promote? minority workers, Helton said.
While laudable, the plan has a financial motive as well, said Hampton Stevens, a freelancer who?s written about NASCAR.

?The only color that matters is green. They?re doing it because they want to get more viewers, and they want to sell more stuff.?

With 75 million fans and growing outside the Southeast, NASCAR has had some success in attracting Latino fans.
To many, however, the sport retains the patina of old-time moonshiners careening down back roads. Confederate flags often flutter at NASCAR tracks, although officials say they do not condone such displays.

Racing already has some diversity programs. However, there is but one black team owner and one black driver in the sport?s major series.

The only black driver to win a major NASCAR race was Wendell Scott in 1963.

Increasing the number of minorities in the sport would help build the minority fan base, said Stann Tate, an executive at Kansas Speedway who is black.

?They?ll have friends and family members who are interested in their careers who may end up following the sport a little bit more.?
Tate, who previously worked at the National Collegiate Athletic Association, said he couldn?t pinpoint why there aren?t more blacks working in NASCAR-related jobs, ?other than they say, ?I don?t want to work in that sport because of the past.?
?But I can tell you, the past is past,? Tate said. ?I?ve never had any problem with colleagues, vendors or consumers.?
Jim Hunter, NASCAR spokesman, didn?t foresee much difficulty in persuading the industry to embrace the latest diversity initiative.
?I think it?s just a question of educating them,? Hunter said. ?I think everybody in NASCAR is well aware that to truly become a national sport, that we?ve got to be representative of the nation.?


http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/13825654.htm

sure .. believe what you will ... ever see the old spice / nascar ad ... the mktg group did all the marketing studies ... that whole ad is filled with rednecks ... unless u say that mktg ppl did not do their homework ...
 

dandruff

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and "evolved" ... peek thru nascar forums / blogs ... and go thru the posts that deal with the news of toyota joining nascar in 2007 - some of the nastiest racism / redneckism posts on the internet ... most of them have been taken down ... sure sure
 

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Nothing wrong with making money.

NASCAR is a private corporation and is entitled to operate as they choose.

Now the "NASCAR celebrates Black History Month" commercial was a little over the top...I can't believe they trotted out Wendell Scott though. That's unarguably the most shameful episode in NASCAR history and the NASCAR brass won't argue that point.

Wendell Scott may have been the most determined race car driver ever. One day he actually won a race in NASCAR's premier series. He was the only driver on the lead lap, and when he crossed the finish line race control did not wave the checkered flag. Some say the promoters feared a riot, with a black man accepting a trophy and kissing the beauty queens. Anyway they granted him the victory several days later but didn't even have the balls to take back the original trophy from the sham winner (who I believe was Buddy Baker but I could be wrong) and gave him a piece of ****** trophy that some kid in a high school shop class made.

http://www.aaregistry.com/african_ameri.../Black_race_car_legend_Wendell_O_Scott

Google Wendell Scott and your eyes will open.

Tears are coming to my eyes as I write this, but it needs to be said. NASCAR has an ignomious history with black people but they are trying to move forward.

There's a lot more to NASCAR than turning left. For those of you ignorami, they race on road courses twice a year, and wouldn't you know, the superstars of the sport can hold their own turning left and right.

Case in point: Casey Mears won the Rolex 24 hours at Daytona about a week before the Daytona 500. Yeah he was co-driver with two other guys, but even with two ringers and a scrub you don't win a race like that. He can flat-out drive a car, left, right, up down. And he's not even the best road racer in NASCAR. That guy would be Tony Stewart, with Jeff Gordon a very close second.