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Want to build a really powerful truck or muscle car for $7,500

DougoMan

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I was recently in a minor car accident and totaled (not really but the insurance company says so, so whatever) my Mazda Protege.

They are giving me $7,500 and now that I am 27, I can finally get a powerful car and not get raped by insurance.

By any measure, I am a gifted mechanical engineer and would like to put together my own car.

I either want a 500+ HP truck or car within that budget.

Ideas?

(Plan B is to get a new HEMI Dodge RAM for $20,000)
 
Do you have a second car to use while building/repairing/upgrading this project?

That's something I would say is a necessity.
 
No problem. Buy a ford fairmont for $500 give or take and put the other $7000 into the drive train.

Well I would prefer if it did not handle like complete shit.

My other idea, by the way, is to go with an electric motor and spend all that money on batteries. Are there any sources of electric engines available that can be worked into a car?


Also, I have always wanted a BMW. I wonder if I could get one with a blown engine or something and just refurbish it with a M series engine.
 
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exchanging engines isn't exactly shade tree mechanic in the electronic control age.
 
The 1969 Chevy C10 in these pic`s cost was about $1500 for the truck and I spent around $3500 on the engine & trans, also the front disk brakes and new 4.56 rear gear with Eaton locker and hardened axles cost around another $1300... With everything else it was very close or a bit more than $7500 but the BBC 427 & fully manual turbo 400 pushed the flying brick to some low 12 second 1/4 miles... Was alot of fun but did not get much in the way of fuel milage and for the track it required AVgas 100LL but detuned slightly it would run on pump prem...

http://www.hotrodders.com/gallery/showgallery.php?ppuser=10507


Just to be honest go find a late model Camaro (98-2002) with an LS1 in good shape which should cost around what you have to spend... Lots of stuff to modd on one of these and fast to start with...
 
Early 90s Chevy C/K pickup with blown engine. 5.3/6.0 engine from late model GM truck + good set of heads and cam = 350HP for less than $4000. spend the rest on a blower.
 
Well I would prefer if it did not handle like complete shit.

My other idea, by the way, is to go with an electric motor and spend all that money on batteries. Are there any sources of electric engines available that can be worked into a car?


Also, I have always wanted a BMW. I wonder if I could get one with a blown engine or something and just refurbish it with a M series engine.

you are asking a whole lot for $7500.
 
There's a 99 Lightning on eBay for $7500.

But I'd recommend an older Chevy CK1500, can be had very cheaply. 350s are a dime a dozen, and there's half a zillion cheap performance parts out there for them .
 
Expecting waaay too much for $7k total, even by doing your own work. (by this I mean a 500hp daily driver with good to great handling)

The only clear contenders will be Ford 5.0 (the old one, not the new one) and GM 5.7/6.0, both of which *can* be built to 500hp, but to do it all motor takes a ton of dedication, so that means forced induction, of which V8s love to be supercharged. Unless you just luck out getting used stuff, it's gonna cost some change to get a decent kit. You'll have to look at fuel delivery, make sure everything else in the motor and intake/valves/cams/exhaust is appropriate for your desired result, and of course probably newer stronger motor mounts and a good look at the diff and drive wheel suspension setup so that you don't end up just wasting the power. Lots of power going through a crappy rear end and crappy rear suspension can be pretty inefficient.

That's one thing, the other is that the old Mustangs and Camaros were also pretty loose chassis designs to begin with, after ~10 or more years of abuse at the hands of whomever's kids were banging on them, they're gonna be even looser and sloppier. Bushings, bearings, all manner of chassis/superstructure connecting points may be a bit mushy even if the thing was never wrecked. Putting 500hp into just an overall loose car is gonna be interesting to say the least, and given that you'll probably have to settle for something of a beater ($2k max? leave $5k for as many replacement parts to go along with probable crate or total rebuild of motor + tranny and lots of other parts) .. it's a pretty ambitious project.

I'm not gonna say it's impossible, but I will say it's probably expecting too much.

Might be wise to save up a little (or do a partial finance with someone), and get something to truly build from like a C5 Vette. Vettes typically aren't owned by abusive teenagers, and I see a lot of original owner Vettes being sold with fairly low miles for not extreme amounts of money. The thing will definitely be much better as a platform to grow on, and it's gonna handle a lot better than anything but a totally insane 90s Mustang/Camaro rebuild.
 
Yeah $7500 is going to be hard. It can be done, but it all depends on your version of powerful.

I have a 98 240SX SE...I have about $20k into it car + mods and I haven't really touched the motor yet. I like the car, I have had it now 6.5+ years. I never see anyone else with the same car at a light and still many wonder what it is. I like that. When I tell them 1998, they can't believe it.

I will more than likely swap an LS1 into it...kit, wiring, supporting mods + my labor is still going to put me at about $7-10k. Outside of that I was looking at a C5 corvette, E36/46 M3 or even a Honda Element (since I have two dogs). Any of those will be about $10-15k + selling my car. In the end I think mine would be better.

I will hit a 12 second quarter mile just dropping in a base LS1. 11's with simple bolt ons. I will turn about mid 20's MPG or better. My car will have really decent weight distribution, <= 55&#37; front.

what kinds of rides are you looking for?
 
As others have said, you're not going to get 500 HP, good handling, and any kind of decent reliability for $7.5k.

You could grab a cheap classic with a common motor (Ford 289 / 302 or 351W; Chevy 350; Mopar ???) and make a lot of power without breaking the bank, but it will handle like an old car (as expected). I know from talking with a LOT of car nuts that a Ford 351W can be build up to ~400 HP with a decent 408 stroker kit, heads, intake, cam, carb, and supporting parts. It'll also twist the chassis of whatever you throw it into if you're not careful.

You could forget about going fast in the straights and buy something that handles nicely, like an older Miata. Then, as you build up extra cash later on, you could look into a turbo setup or LS1 swap.

You could try to go for the middle group between power and handling by looking into a used '99-'04 Mustang GT, or LS1 F-body (Camaro, Firebird / Trans-Am). For that price, you're likely looking into something with a lot of hard miles on it, though. Add bolt-ons as you scrape together more cash, and then a blower when you save up another $3-4k. The best part about this option is, barring any obvious problems with the car, you get to drive it NOW and build up the power as time goes on. It becomes a project, and an addiction, but it's a ton of fun.

What exactly do you want 500 HP for anyway? Are you planning on turning this into a drag car, or is it still going to be used on the street? For street use, especially in the sub-$30k price bracket, I'd aim for more like 300-350 HP and call it a day. The difference between 350 and 500 on the street is negligible unless you're out picking fights with Corvettes and Cobras all day long, and going past a HP level easily achieved with bolt-ons becomes expensive REALLY fast, especially when you strap a blower on something without any regard to the bottom end...
 
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Grab a rolling shell Mazda RX-7 (or any other similar V8 swappable import) from the late 80's to early 90's (FC or FD) and put in a used LS1. 350hp or so and light as can be. As time goes on you can add cam/heads/valves/headers etc etc and get close to your 500hp number. It'll take work and you'll put a lot of your Mech E skills, but it'll be a lot of fun.

For example, here's a $300 rolling shell 1988. 1987 supra for $800.
 
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500hp is impossible on that budget, unless you just throw a nitrous kit on the car. Don't expect it to last you long with that size shot. 400hp is entirely doable.

Get yourself a mid 80's Mustang GT with the 5.0, pull the motor, tear it down, and start building. That's assuming you've already got tools. If you don't, forget it.

Might as well just buy an early 00's Firebird with the LS1 and start throwing bolt ons at it. Headers, exhaust, intake, throttle body and a tune will probably get you to 400hp easy.
 
I agree, 500hp is out there, but 400hp is easy. One option that I haven't seen mentioned is an 80's-early 90's S10 or S10 Blazer. Putting a 350 into one of those is pretty easy, and you can find a straight body for under $1000 pretty easily too. In fact you can probably find one of these already built up for within your budget. People put $10k into these cars and then lose their jobs and have to sell for $5k-$7k. I've seen it many times. (BTW a take-away from this is don't expect to get out of a car what you put into it. A 1988 Chevy with a $10k engine is still a 1988 Chevy. Building up a car or truck is never an "investment" no matter how you try to justify it (unless it is a true classic, and even then, if you value your time at some reasonable dollar amount, you're probably losing money in the end)).

http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/2024656569.html
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/1985156088.html
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/2011201688.html
 
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No problem. Buy a ford fairmont for $500 give or take and put the other $7000 into the drive train.
Well I would prefer if it did not handle like complete shit.

Stiffen it up and it would only halfway handle like complete shit. The Fairmont used the venerable Fox chassis, same as the Mustang.

Heheh, I bet that's a hoot to drive, but it's gonna handle like Satan's angry ball sack.

LOL, you, sir, are a wordsmith.

What exactly do you want 500 HP for anyway?

It's like people wanting an EXACT 4GHz overclock on their CPU. 😕 Nobody knows, not even them.
 
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