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Want to build a good Amd gaming computer!!!!

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Tret

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Can u tell me everything that i need including stuff like monitor,speakers,etc.basically a cool fast and quiet computer. My limit is like $2000

I already have a 9700 pro, and my 80gb harddrive that im going to use
 
OMG!! Do a search, there have been so many people asking these same type of questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Build it yourself you lazy bum!
 
Originally posted by: Tret
how long is the wait?
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September, at the earliest. It'll cost a hefty chunk of change over current XP/Slot-A solutions, given the price premium on Athlon 64 chips and mobos with K8 chipsets. It'd help if you researched and listed out some parts, rather than expect everyone to list a build-out.

Chiz
 
If you like Pentium 4's, get the ASUS P4T533 and 512mb of 4200 RDRAM. It flies.

I'm just looking into an Athlon system for myself. If you go that route, get an nforce 2 chipset. Read reviews on Anandtech for performance and choose which one has the best features for you. Then grab some DDR333.
 
"cool and quiet" probably means you need to be considering Intel. Probably a MoBo with the 845PE chipset.

Since you have $2000 to spend, and already own your Video card (most expensive part of any high end system) you can stick to TOL stuff.

I like ASUS and ABit for top notch Motherboards.

If you don't go the integrated sound route, you probably want an Audigy2 sound card. (Unless you are VERY picky, integrated sound solutions are pretty good on TOL motherboards as well.)

Don't go crazy on your RAM unless you are a serious overclocker. Which would totally trash your cool and quiet requirement)
Just get 512MB of DDR rated at the speed of the processor you select.

For the processor, you will see obvious price jumps as you look to the latest and greatest chips available, I suggest doing just below the top to save some (needless) $$.

Have Fun 😀

-Sid



 
Originally posted by: chizow
"cool and quiet" probably means you need to be considering Intel.
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Top-of-the-line Athlon XP rigs are just as cool and quiet as top-of-the-line P4 rigs.

Chiz
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I agree (and stand corrected) that they can be. the level of quiet will always be a direct result of the cooling solution chosen. However, I do not agree that a stock AMD is as cool as a stock Intel.

For the record, I run AMD here and prefer them, but believe more attention needs to be paid to cooling with AMD and noise will be increased as a result.
 
Wrong ... Happy owner of a 1800+ TBred A @1750MHz with stock cooling and 40C idle 47C Load ... doesn't make any noise (except for that whiney Radeon 9500Pro Cooler)
 
Originally posted by: chizow
"cool and quiet" probably means you need to be considering Intel.
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Top-of-the-line Athlon XP rigs are just as cool and quiet as top-of-the-line P4 rigs.

Chiz
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I agree with Insidious on this one. AMD can be made to run as quiet as Intel, but there is no question Intel is quieter using a stock retail HS/F than AMD. After using AMD systems for years, I got my first P4 a few months back and the first thing I noticed after turning it on was how quiet it was. I had to take a peek at it initially to make sure the fan was spinning. I've since gotten a second P4 system which is just as quiet, so I know it wasn't some sort of fluke with the first one.

If you want a cool/fast system with a minimal amount of effort, a P4 is the way to go. With a $2000 budget you can easily afford a top of the line P4 system.
 
Let's see, if I had $2k to blow it wouldn't be on a puter, but if it was this is what I would get:

Xp2700+ $260
512mb x2 ddr 2700 $150
wd 80 gb hd x2 in raid $200
asus nforce2 mb $150
logitech z560's $160
phillips 21" $400
dvd+r/rw $250
dvd $50
cdrw 52x $50
9800pro $400
case $100
psu $50

I am not sure if norce2 supports raid but if it does you will be ready, I know you said you had a hd/video card but I sold them on ebay for $250. So the rig is $2220-$250 from ebay=$1970. I did my best to get you 1 stout rig.
 
Originally posted by: Pariah
Originally posted by: chizow
"cool and quiet" probably means you need to be considering Intel.
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Top-of-the-line Athlon XP rigs are just as cool and quiet as top-of-the-line P4 rigs.

Chiz
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I agree with Insidious on this one. AMD can be made to run as quiet as Intel, but there is no question Intel is quieter using a stock retail HS/F than AMD. After using AMD systems for years, I got my first P4 a few months back and the first thing I noticed after turning it on was how quiet it was. I had to take a peek at it initially to make sure the fan was spinning. I've since gotten a second P4 system which is just as quiet, so I know it wasn't some sort of fluke with the first one.

If you want a cool/fast system with a minimal amount of effort, a P4 is the way to go. With a $2000 budget you can easily afford a top of the line P4 system.
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That certainly would've been the case with T-birds and Palominos and still might be the case with AMD's stock cooling methods, but that's only because AMD bundles their CPUs with cooling solutions that might be slightly louder than Intel's stock heatsink. Based on the stock retail heatsink, Intel might be a slightly quieter solution, but not by much. Buy a quiet $5 aftermarket 80mm fan and the difference is negligible.

Faster Northwoods certainly don't enjoy the same temperature advantages over the XP since the introduction of T-bred B's and Barton cores; just look at the latest heat dissipation comparisons. Also, the after-market cooling solutions for the P4 have mirrored Athlon solutions for some time now, so its pretty clear that the stock cooler is no longer adequate for enthusiasts looking to overclock.

The Barton 3000+ (and the rest of the XP line) ships with a a variety of good quality 80mm heatsinks nowadays, so any memories of 60mm screamers is history. Two of the better known stock coolers are the Coolermaster CP5 and the Taisol CGK760; unfortunately, the Taisol still uses a toned down 60mm fan that outputs ~21cfm at a modest, but still audible 36dB. The Coolermaster on the other hand uses a 70mm low rpm fan that outputs ~22cfm @ 24dB. Both perform well enough to cool the top of the line processor, but an 80mm Panaflo L1A ($5 after-market), cools as well and is quieter than both.

I run my current system at nearly 700MHz over its stock speed, yet my fan runs at 3000rpms and is ~32dBA (based on the noise levels of a comparable Sunons I'm using). Its the loudest fan in my case and its virtually inaudible. Needless to say, its a far cry from any 60mm solution I've used in the past or even some of my previous 80mm solutions. If I were to run it at stock speeds, I'm not even sure I'd need a fan at all (I have a blowhole overtop my heatsink).

Regardless, any notion that P4's are inherently quieter or cooler than XP's is a common misconception in hardware circles that simply doesn't hold its weight anymore.

Chiz
 
The retail P4 HSF is quieter than the Athlon retail HSF, and it isn't that close. The much larger heatsink means it doesn't require such a high volume fan. That's my only point. If you look at Newegg, retail P4's are cheaper than OEM, so there is no reason not to go with the quieter retail version. The stock P4 HSF is very good quality, and plenty for the lazy among us who want to buy one item, install it and be done.
 
The title says "AMD gaming computer", so lets kill the P4 discussion. If he wants quiet and cool, either get the new Barton (Haven't seen them, but chiz says they are great), or an XP2700-2800 and a Vantec C7040 cooler. One of the quietest around, and my 2700 OC'ed to XP3500 levels runs at 41c full load. My 9700 pro fan is the only thing I hear in my case (Antec 1080awg), and that is pretty quiet.

Edit: darn typos
 
You want to build a computer for about 2000 and you already have the vid card and hdd?

Good god man, just pick out what's most expensive at the store 😀
 
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