Question want bigger battery in my ups...

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Red Squirrel

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One option is to use an inverter-charger and deep cycle batteries for golf cart or RV. You can add as many as you want to increase capacity. This is the one I have:


If you do it to a regular UPS just make sure to add a fan but one issue is the components may not be rated for continuous duty so it may still end up being less reliable. I have tried it though. I added 2 80ah batteries in series (24v UPS) and it ran off them for a long time.


Oh and to answer your question on inverter grounding. Ideally, you want it to not actually go anywhere, that way you can connect it to ground yourself. But a lot of inverters do this weird thing where the ground is 60v potential between the two output slots. This is not ideal because in a proper setup the neutral and ground should be tied together but you can't do that with those inverters. Best bet is to take a multimeter and test voltage between ground and both slots to see what you get.

With the inverter turned OFF and make sure you drain the capacitors, you can also do continuity (or ohm) test to see what you get.
 
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ive had my power bank connected to a chinese "smart" charger nonstop since i got my 500 watt inverter and i use my computer like this all the time.. yes inverter being used at same time4 it is being charged.. currently getting 13.1v and 11.4a...
and now when i touch any part of my computer. no shocks. no buzz, i finally feel safe that nothing is beinh damaged :)
 
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One option is to use an inverter-charger and deep cycle batteries for golf cart or RV. You can add as many as you want to increase capacity. This is the one I have:


If you do it to a regular UPS just make sure to add a fan but one issue is the components may not be rated for continuous duty so it may still end up being less reliable. I have tried it though. I added 2 80ah batteries in series (24v UPS) and it ran off them for a long time.


Oh and to answer your question on inverter grounding. Ideally, you want it to not actually go anywhere, that way you can connect it to ground yourself. But a lot of inverters do this weird thing where the ground is 60v potential between the two output slots. This is not ideal because in a proper setup the neutral and ground should be tied together but you can't do that with those inverters. Best bet is to take a multimeter and test voltage between ground and both slots to see what you get.

With the inverter turned OFF and make sure you drain the capacitors, you can also do continuity (or ohm) test to see what you get.
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thank you but i get ALL my supplies from Filipinoe or chinese shopping apps..lazada , shoppee and tiktok shop..those are amazon imitations.. and Temu just recently showed up...

but since ive been using the inverter.. the fault light has not come on.. telling me that my antec PSU is doing a fine job of taking care of any "faults" .. 5days
 

Red Squirrel

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You may need to look around to see what you can find in your country. Solar all in one systems might be worth looking at too. The problem is some of those don't have a fast transfer time, you want something under 16ms. So it's a big of a gamble when you buy one.
 
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what ive been doing the past 5 days is charging my 2x 12v50ah (linked in parallel) with a chinese smart charger that is always dumping 10 or so amps.. and simutaneously using my inverter on those to batteries... .. and when i touch any part of my pc.. no shocks.. nothing.. and in my ups i have a 12v 9ah battery and it is paralel linked to a 7ah battery.. i know they arent identical.. but something is going into both of them.. good thing..
i am roughly.. 5% away from using only solar power on my 2 big batteries.. the 50ah ones.. just missing one piece.. a thing that shows me how many watts are going from mppt to the batteries... all the solar panels ive got claim 300watts and up but have the physical dimensions of a 50watt panel..
 
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You may need to look around to see what you can find in your country. Solar all in one systems might be worth looking at too. The problem is some of those don't have a fast transfer time, you want something under 16ms. So it's a big of a gamble when you buy one.
and naturally i looked at AIO.. saw one for4000-5000$cad.. for 5kw.. everything included.. heres the hesitation.. it is no secret that all of Chinas products have become oversaturated with lifepo batteries ever since they took over DR Congo.. and those exact same lifepo4 batteries are present in my small power bank that i alway have my fiber optics wifi modem connected to.. but then.. it started acting funny.. jumping from 100 to 60%... and would not last the full night giving power to a wifi modem that can be powered by usb...oh sorry forgot to mention that it did come with a solar panel... which i butchered out of pure racial hate

jk.. im Quebecer, we only hate what isnt poutine :)
sorry.. i trailed off.. i imagine any AIO of that size will have lifepo batteries from same source.. thus my hesitation...
 
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You may need to look around to see what you can find in your country. Solar all in one systems might be worth looking at too. The problem is some of those don't have a fast transfer time, you want something under 16ms. So it's a big of a gamble when you buy one.
yup... ive seen one.. 4000$cad.. also seen ecoflow AIO..
 
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The AIO itself won't have any batteries, you need to connect your own. Something like this:


Although that might be a bit overkill and more than what you want to spend, there may be other options.

And now that you mentioned poutine I could go for one now.
i LOVE the logo on that ... umm is that the power bank ??? just that part alone is 74,000 php.. at that price i could buy a car.. a used one but regardless.

and yes i noticed you are a cannuck.. enjoy the poutine dude...
and try not to die laughing at my pepper accent, it is called the celine dion syndrome, cannot be helped...