Walmart is SERIOUS!

[trenchfoot]

That some really half-ass "make-me-a-martyr-for-the-NRA-2A" thingy he had going there.

Also a really good way to get flagged and tagged by the FBI and local authorities for being a possible "shooter with a gripe against the world."

Normalizing open carry has got some ways to go it seems.

 

[Paladin3]

Both open and concealed carry are legal in my state without any permit. Lots of folks up here in rural North Idaho carry, some openly. I conceal carry in my Walmart all the time. The area Walmart stores haven't sold handguns or "assault rifles" during the 11 years I've lived here, but I bought pistol ammo there a few months ago.

Nobody around here even blinks at open carry, though I will admit I can't recall ever seeing anyone open carrying a long gun, just pistols. Hunting season just started so sometimes you will spot rifles or shotguns in truck gun racks, but not even that very often. Maybe no one around here has a point to prove.

What a maroon. After the cop told him there was no open carry in Walmart & gave him back his unloaded gun & magazine he just had to insert the magazine & rack a round into the chamber.. While he was still in Walmart. I'm surprised they didn't arrest him.

Arrest him for what? Open carrying a loaded gun is perfectly legal in Kentucky. The man was informed by the cops that Walmart didn't want him there, so he was only legally required to leave and not come back, not to unload or keep his firearm unloaded. And the cops were smart enough to understand that. Not everyone is scared of guns.

And a concealed weapon is no less deadly than an openly carried one. The only difference in the two methods of carry are how the public reacts. That's the main reason I carry concealed, but, honestly, outside the waistband would be much more comfortable.

 

[darkswordsman17]

I read in comments elsewhere that someone shopping there saw him sitting in a lawn chair at Walmart with his gun out and recording/streaming it. If this is the case he wasn't just shopping, he was looking to provoke Walmart into doing something and they did...lol! My wife and daughter work at a big box store that recently shut down all ammo & gun sales and they are glad to see Walmart doing this.

I have some family members that work for Wal-Mart, they've told their employees that if they want they can request people carrying guns to leave the store, but they're basically leaving it up to the employees to decide to, and I think they even told them that there are some states where the law would still let them carry (but that it was still fine if the employees wanted to request they leave or something, sounded like Wal-Mart was trying to offload this shit onto their employees so they could absolve themselves of any blowback no matter which direction it goes by putting things on the employees or customers). Which I'm sure that won't be problematic at all. I have a hunch that might be what caused this surrogate-penis fanatic to try and stir up shit. He was looking to instigate such a situation so he could make a scene and try and stir up controversy.

 

[shortylickens]

Another attention whore gets the attention he wanted. So what?

How about instead of saying "so what", you just dont post in the fucking thread you god damn stupid child?

Anyway, I am fine with private businesses exercising their rights and enforcing them.

 

[shortylickens]

A deplorable who used to work for me was on a Facebook rant about not shopping at Walmart ever again. Good news to me, deplorable can stop supporting the business family that funnels shit tons of dark money into Republican causes. I’m good with that.
Funny how she had this “suck it libs” attitude.

The people who Hillary labeled "deplorables" are probably 80% of Walmarts customer base.
On the other hand, I would love to be able to get in and out of one of those places without having to deal with trailer trash, so for me this could be a nice change.

 

[DrDoug]

I have some family members that work for Wal-Mart, they've told their employees that if they want they can request people carrying guns to leave the store, but they're basically leaving it up to the employees to decide to, and I think they even told them that there are some states where the law would still let them carry (but that it was still fine if the employees wanted to request they leave or something, sounded like Wal-Mart was trying to offload this shit onto their employees so they could absolve themselves of any blowback no matter which direction it goes by putting things on the employees or customers). Which I'm sure that won't be problematic at all. I have a hunch that might be what caused this surrogate-penis fanatic to try and stir up shit. He was looking to instigate such a situation so he could make a scene and try and stir up controversy.

No doubt that he was doing this for clicks and giggles. I think one problem for companies like Walmart is that they leave themselves open to a lawsuit (successful or not) by not having a firm policy that is enforced across all stores. They are already moving in the direction of outright banning weapons in their stores, which is good.

A few more mass shootings in their stores ought to help them get their policies dialed in once and for all.

 

[HomerJS]

He should just conceal carry. Walmart has their rights too.

Yeah because you never know if an attempted mugging will occur in the toy section of store

 

[nOOky]

Apparently he also didn't know that drinking his bottle of flavored water before paying for it is theft, and they could have nailed him for that too. What a maroon.

 

[TheVrolok]

Yeah because you never know if an attempted mugging will occur in the toy section of store

You don't understand the constant state of fear these folks live in.

 

[Jhhnn]

Arrest him for what? Open carrying a loaded gun is perfectly legal in Kentucky. The man was informed by the cops that Walmart didn't want him there, so he was only legally required to leave and not come back, not to unload or keep his firearm unloaded. And the cops were smart enough to understand that. Not everyone is scared of guns.

And a concealed weapon is no less deadly than an openly carried one. The only difference in the two methods of carry are how the public reacts. That's the main reason I carry concealed, but, honestly, outside the waistband would be much more comfortable.

He's trespassing when he stays after being asked to leave. It doesn't matter why he's asked to leave.

 

[Vic]

Apparently he also didn't know that drinking his bottle of flavored water before paying for it is theft, and they could have nailed him for that too. What a maroon.

It's not theft to consume a food item within a store, unless you walk out without paying for it.

 

[OccamsToothbrush]

How about instead of saying "so what", you just dont post in the fucking thread you god damn stupid child?

Anyway, I am fine with private businesses exercising their rights and enforcing them.

Awww, did our ittle-wittle feelings get hurt because this, like most things in life, was over your head?

The point here, since you seem to be the only person here to not understand it, is that this was essentially scripted from the moment he decided to do it and brought along his cameraman. It's a sad, desperate-for-attention nobody who intentionally provoked a reaction to give his life meaning for the .0000001 second he'll be famous for this because he's can't handle 15 seconds let alone 15 minutes. This might have been interesting the first 100 or even 500 times it was done. But after you've seen it 10,000 times and it's always the same, it might be time to move on. Why are some sad, angry little fucktards so interested in this? Shithead walked into Wal-Mart intending to cause a fuss and get thrown out, shithead got thrown out. I'll ask again, so what? If he wanted to make a video about what a rebel he is he should have just dropped trow and taken a dump on one of the registers. That would have been a million times more original and interesting than this.

 

[Vic]

Both open and concealed carry are legal in my state without any permit. Lots of folks up here in rural North Idaho carry, some openly. I conceal carry in my Walmart all the time. The area Walmart stores haven't sold handguns or "assault rifles" during the 11 years I've lived here, but I bought pistol ammo there a few months ago.

Nobody around here even blinks at open carry, though I will admit I can't recall ever seeing anyone open carrying a long gun, just pistols. Hunting season just started so sometimes you will spot rifles or shotguns in truck gun racks, but not even that very often. Maybe no one around here has a point to prove.


Arrest him for what? Open carrying a loaded gun is perfectly legal in Kentucky. The man was informed by the cops that Walmart didn't want him there, so he was only legally required to leave and not come back, not to unload or keep his firearm unloaded. And the cops were smart enough to understand that. Not everyone is scared of guns.

And a concealed weapon is no less deadly than an openly carried one. The only difference in the two methods of carry are how the public reacts. That's the main reason I carry concealed, but, honestly, outside the waistband would be much more comfortable.

People like yourself, who falsely imagine that their 2a rights supersede the private property rights of others, and who also self-righteously assume that this issue is about some people being 'scared of guns,' are IMO the biggest threat to gun rights today.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I know an organization he can join where he can open carry as much as he wants

I served in such an organization for many years, it was called the U.S. Army and they have plenty of opportunities to use said weapon around the world.

 

[Starbuck1975]

I served in such an organization for many years, it was called the U.S. Army and they have plenty of opportunities to use said weapon around the world.

As did I, and I’ve always perceived weapons as tools of the trade, treated with the same care and respect as you would heavy machinery. I’ve never felt the need to own or carry one as a civilian.

 

[Viper1j]

Apparently he also didn't know that drinking his bottle of flavored water before paying for it is theft, and they could have nailed him for that too. What a maroon.

Actually ... No. It's not theft unless you don't pay. You have to be past the last point of payment before you can make an arrest.

Now things like grapes are different. You can make an arrest because those and a few other things are priced by weight. He can a totally empty bottle to the cashier and pay and it's not theft.

As did I, and I’ve always perceived weapons as tools of the trade, treated with the same care and respect as you would heavy machinery. I’ve never felt the need to own or carry one as a civilian.

But, they're rebels! The Wild Bunch come to life!

They want to shoot, what they want to shoot, when they want to shoot it. Every Marine and soldier I ever knew didn't do squat, without the order to "lock and load".

I never once released a weapon, without a "weapons free" or "fire at will".

 

[BoomerD]

I served in such an organization for many years, it was called the U.S. Army and they have plenty of opportunities to use said weapon around the world.

Yep, but in non-combat situations, carrying loaded weapons is banned for most.

 

[Pohemi]

I wonder if they'll mail his picture to every store.

A facial recognition database needs no manpower to flag him for security anywhere on the planet.

Does Walmart have access to and implement facial recognition technology? I think that should be a pretty disturbing idea.

True, that, but Walmart probably doesn't have that... yet.

Oh, you can bet your asses they do. I know someone who has consulted and installed said cameras and systems in several of their locations in Arizona and New Mexico. As soon as he walks in any location with the systems in-place, someone somewhere in the store is alerted. It's then up to them whether to take action on said banned individual or not, but from what I understand it's already been relatively effective. Many people get banned for life from Walmart for shoplifting and/or return fraud.

 

[balloonshark]

In the past Walmart has used facial recognition technology to catch thieves in some stores. https://fortune.com/2015/11/09/wal-mart-facial-recognition/

They are also currently adding more types of AI to keep up with Amazon's retails stores.

I also seem to remember an article about how home depot or lowes and or walmart used tech to track it customers in store to see if they stopped in one place for too long. If so they would send an associate to see if they needed assistance.

 

[Jhhnn]

As did I, and I’ve always perceived weapons as tools of the trade, treated with the same care and respect as you would heavy machinery. I’ve never felt the need to own or carry one as a civilian.

It's interesting you'd say that. It's certainly a rational outlook.

My perspective is a bit different, being raised in a family that hunted. It's the other traditional reason to own guns. That takes a whole different kind of guns, however, and a completely different attitude. I often think that pew-pew rifle enthusiasts lack respect for what it is that they have. It's a highly developed & specialized weapons system specifically built to kill people in combat situations. The same is true of high capacity handguns, in general. They're all just really dangerous toys in the hands of civilians.

 

[Starbuck1975]

It's interesting you'd say that. It's certainly a rational outlook.

My perspective is a bit different, being raised in a family that hunted. It's the other traditional reason to own guns. That takes a whole different kind of guns, however, and a completely different attitude. I often think that pew-pew rifle enthusiasts lack respect for what it is that they have. It's a highly developed & specialized weapons system specifically built to kill people in combat situations. The same is true of high capacity handguns, in general. They're all just really dangerous toys in the hands of civilians.

Hunting is a bit different, but I’ve always respected those who do so with a bow over a rifle. It’s unfortunate that some people ruin things for everyone else. Open carry in Wallmart isn’t the behavior of an enthusiast, its a fetish.

 

[Viper1j]

Hunting is like playing a game, where the other side doesn't even know that they're even playing..

Forget the deer, and the squirrels.

Go old school. Let's see you take down a big grizzly bear with nothing but a Bowie knife.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Who shops at Walmart anyway? Heck I havent been there in at least 15-20 minutes.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Who shops at Walmart anyway? Heck I havent been there in at least 15-20 minutes.

You on a coffee break?

 

[FelixDeCat]

You on a coffee break?

I have a rule - no alcohol before noon and no coffee after.