Walmart:11-21-06 Wal-Mart slashes food prices in half ahead of Thanksgiving

[shrumpage]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
About time. It is un-american to create working poor in this Country.

These Democrats are true American Heros.

Does this mean that McDonalds, and other large companies that pay low wages will have to increase there spending too?

Seems unfair to target one specfic company, when it isn't breaking any laws.

If people think that minium wage isn't enough or minium healthcare isn't enough - then they should raise the standards for everyone not just unfairly target one group.

Thank you for at least acknowledging the decline of American wages. :thumbsup:

You Republicans have been insisting for years that they are increasing.

It is only increasing for the Fat Cat Management and CEO's at the expense of the rest of the American workforce.

No i didn't - i acknowledge that people are paid minium wage - nothing more nothing less.

But since we are working our muscles by jumping to conclusions this morning - lets grab those two remaining brains you got, smash 'em togather to hopefully create a spark. And don't worry about that stabbing pain you'll feel between your eyes - its called a thought - it'll pass in a moment - but hopefully you can generate what everyone commonly agree is: "an answer"

Do you think its fair to target one company when there are 100's if not 1000's of other doing the exact samething? Or do you believe in singling people, groups or companies out even though they have followed the law, is ok?

 

[Proletariat]

LOL, thats my state for ya

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
About time. It is un-american to create working poor in this Country.

1-13-2006 Maryland forces Wal-Mart to spend more on health care for employees

ANNAPOLIS, Md. - Maryland legislators voted Thursday to enact a first-in-the-nation requirement that Wal-Mart Stores Inc. spend more on employee health care. The measure, touted as a money-saver for the state-supported Medicaid program, takes effect despite the governor?s veto of the bill.

?The taxpayers are giving a health-care subsidy to the largest retailer on earth,? argued Democratic Delegate Kumar Barve. The House and Senate, both controlled by Democrats, both notched the three-fifths margins needed to override a veto last May by Republican Gov. Robert Ehrlich.
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These Democrats are true American Heros.

Yup, coercion is the American Way!

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
About time. It is un-american to create working poor in this Country.

1-13-2006 Maryland forces Wal-Mart to spend more on health care for employees

ANNAPOLIS, Md. - Maryland legislators voted Thursday to enact a first-in-the-nation requirement that Wal-Mart Stores Inc. spend more on employee health care. The measure, touted as a money-saver for the state-supported Medicaid program, takes effect despite the governor?s veto of the bill.

?The taxpayers are giving a health-care subsidy to the largest retailer on earth,? argued Democratic Delegate Kumar Barve. The House and Senate, both controlled by Democrats, both notched the three-fifths margins needed to override a veto last May by Republican Gov. Robert Ehrlich.
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These Democrats are true American Heros.

Yup, coercion is the American Way!

Yup, learning from the Republicans :laugh:

 

[ElFenix]

so, has there been any ERISA discussion or is it all mindless tit-for-tat in here?

 

[FuzzyBee]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
About time. It is un-american to create working poor in this Country.

1-13-2006 Maryland forces Wal-Mart to spend more on health care for employees

ANNAPOLIS, Md. - Maryland legislators voted Thursday to enact a first-in-the-nation requirement that Wal-Mart Stores Inc. spend more on employee health care. The measure, touted as a money-saver for the state-supported Medicaid program, takes effect despite the governor?s veto of the bill.

?The taxpayers are giving a health-care subsidy to the largest retailer on earth,? argued Democratic Delegate Kumar Barve. The House and Senate, both controlled by Democrats, both notched the three-fifths margins needed to override a veto last May by Republican Gov. Robert Ehrlich.
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These Democrats are true American Heros.

Yup, coercion is the American Way!

Yup, learning from the Republicans :laugh:

It'd be nice if you could actually come up with an original thought every once in a while.

 

[Genx87]

In other news Walmart shutdown 25 stores in Maryland due to increased healthcare costs sending thousands onto the streets looking for work and no way to pay the bills.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Genx87
In other news Walmart shutdown 25 stores in Maryland due to increased healthcare costs sending thousands onto the streets looking for work and no way to pay the bills.

Yeah, Wallyworld's profits will be hurt sooooo bad by this. :roll: Besides, if they laid off everyone at those stores, most of them are on public aid anyway!!

 

[EagleKeeper]

The principle of the thing of a state dictating to a company on how they do business in the state.

Wal-Mart should threaten to close those stores within the state and build new ones just across the state lines if the bill stands.

Once the state dictates healthcare to one company; they will get into the mode to do for all companies and then demand additioanl benefits.

Sounds like the Federal method of issuing unfunded mandates to the states.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Genx87
In other news Walmart shutdown 25 stores in Maryland due to increased healthcare costs sending thousands onto the streets looking for work and no way to pay the bills.

Good, they should shut them down. They have no business being in business to begin with.

Take that slave labor elsewhere thank you.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Genx87
In other news Walmart shutdown 25 stores in Maryland due to increased healthcare costs sending thousands onto the streets looking for work and no way to pay the bills.

Good, they should shut them down. They have no business being in business to begin with.

Take that slave labor elsewhere thank you.

Great plan you have there. Run all the business's out of town. Then what, have the govt employ them and tax at 100%?

Congrats you just greated your own slave labor nation!

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
The principle of the thing of a state dictating to a company on how they do business in the state.

Wal-Mart should threaten to close those stores within the state and build new ones just across the state lines if the bill stands.

Once the state dictates healthcare to one company; they will get into the mode to do for all companies and then demand additioanl benefits.

Sounds like the Federal method of issuing unfunded mandates to the states.

Agreed.

As much as I despise Wal-Mart, the gov't should be able to tell a business how much they should spend. This is atrocious.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Donny Baker

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
The principle of the thing of a state dictating to a company on how they do business in the state.

Wal-Mart should threaten to close those stores within the state and build new ones just across the state lines if the bill stands.

Once the state dictates healthcare to one company; they will get into the mode to do for all companies and then demand additioanl benefits.

Sounds like the Federal method of issuing unfunded mandates to the states.

Agreed.

As much as I despise Wal-Mart, the gov't should be able to tell a business how much they should spend. This is atrocious.

So, I take it that you're opposed to OSHA, the FDA, the EPA, and other government agencies which tell business how to run and where to spend their money. Am I right? Or are you just opposed to business health care spending?

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: ExpertNovice
Sam Walton was conservative, are his heirs?

I love how liberals hate conservatives that do what liberals do. Liberals say let the "undocumented workers" get driver licenses and social security cards and don't allow the employers ask about their citizenship. Then, if a liberal is caught paying the workers $5 a day that is ok after all we are helping them but when a large company gets caught paying them $8 an hour, you get self righteous.

I love how liberals are so opposed to national ID cards for voting and other government priviledges.

I guess they need their illegal immigrant crack-for-vote programs to win.....errr not lose by so much.

No. Filthy rich liberals are in need of an endless supply of cheap nannies and gardeners. For instance, try to suggest to Hollywood execs to allow illigal workers to take up acting jobs for $10.00 an hour. Then sit back, watch their reaction, and enjoy the show.

Liberals in California do support drivers licenses for illegals, which was the law for many years. They are already here, and driving anyway, so what is your problem? I think that getting their picture and fingerprint on a license is better than having nothing on them. It they commit a crime they will at least have their fingerprints, as opposed to the Republican idea that we will just pretend they don't exist.
I am not aware of anyone, even a Republican, that supports Social Security cards for illegals.
It was your great hero, Ronald Reagan that legalized MILLIONS of illegals.
And the only senator that I have ever heard try and do something about illegals is the moderate democrat Diane Feinstein.
The republicans control the white house, congress and the courts, they can basically pass anything they want, and yet where is the big crackdown on illegals?
I say deport them all, confiscate all illegally gotten gains, punish their employers, and build a fence from California to Texas.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: marincounty

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: ExpertNovice
Sam Walton was conservative, are his heirs?

I love how liberals hate conservatives that do what liberals do. Liberals say let the "undocumented workers" get driver licenses and social security cards and don't allow the employers ask about their citizenship. Then, if a liberal is caught paying the workers $5 a day that is ok after all we are helping them but when a large company gets caught paying them $8 an hour, you get self righteous.

I love how liberals are so opposed to national ID cards for voting and other government priviledges.

I guess they need their illegal immigrant crack-for-vote programs to win.....errr not lose by so much.

No. Filthy rich liberals are in need of an endless supply of cheap nannies and gardeners. For instance, try to suggest to Hollywood execs to allow illigal workers to take up acting jobs for $10.00 an hour. Then sit back, watch their reaction, and enjoy the show.

Liberals in California do support drivers licenses for illegals, which was the law for many years. They are already here, and driving anyway, so what is your problem? I think that getting their picture and fingerprint on a license is better than having nothing on them. It they commit a crime they will at least have their fingerprints, as opposed to the Republican idea that we will just pretend they don't exist.
I am not aware of anyone, even a Republican, that supports Social Security cards for illegals.
It was your great hero, Ronald Reagan that legalized MILLIONS of illegals.
And the only senator that I have ever heard try and do something about illegals is the moderate democrat Diane Feinstein.
The republicans control the white house, congress and the courts, they can basically pass anything they want, and yet where is the big crackdown on illegals?
I say deport them all, confiscate all illegally gotten gains, punish their employers, and build a fence from California to Texas.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Genx87
In other news Walmart shutdown 25 stores in Maryland due to increased healthcare costs sending thousands onto the streets looking for work and no way to pay the bills.

Yeah, Wallyworld's profits will be hurt sooooo bad by this. :roll: Besides, if they laid off everyone at those stores, most of them are on public aid anyway!!

Wrong, about 5% of them are which is slightly higher than the 4% national avg.
And it will hurt wallyworlds profits. I would actually enjoy seeing Walmart take a stand and drop 17000 people out on the street tomorrow to make these senators look like the morons they are.

 

[imported_Shivetya]

Don't discount the chilling effect this will have on ALL businesses which operate in the state. It will effectively kill expansion of several and may curtail any entering the state.

Wal-Mart is a convienent target. There has been a sytematic attack by the Unions using sycophants in the media and owned politicians to villify Wal-Mart. Always ignored is the fact that they insure more people than most. Also ignored is the fact that they do pay higher than minimum wage and do promote within.

This is simply an effort by Unions to use government to punish a company they cannot gain an edge on by any other means. There is no real attempt here to protect workers or gain them anything. If anything it will hurt the very people it purports to aid. Prices will go up, employment opportunities will go down.

You want to know the reasons medical costs are as high as they are? Simple, government mandates and the fact employers cover the bulk of medical costs. With the direct cost removed from the consumer there were many opportunities to bury fees and expenses that otherwise would not be tolerated. Health care is a benefit from the company that employs you, it is not a right. If your company does not provide for you and you want the coverage then find one that will.

Rarely if ever does government intervention in these areas ever result in things getting better. In fact, most of the time costs go up and coverage decreases.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Genx87
In other news Walmart shutdown 25 stores in Maryland due to increased healthcare costs sending thousands onto the streets looking for work and no way to pay the bills.

Yeah, Wallyworld's profits will be hurt sooooo bad by this. :roll: Besides, if they laid off everyone at those stores, most of them are on public aid anyway!!

Wrong, about 5% of them are which is slightly higher than the 4% national avg.
And it will hurt wallyworlds profits. I would actually enjoy seeing Walmart take a stand and drop 17000 people out on the street tomorrow to make these senators look like the morons they are.

Yeah, you would like to see mass layoffs, wouldn't you?

 

[bctbct]

Reblublicans can spin this however they want, but here are the facts.

"The bill requires companies with more than 10,000 Maryland employees to spend at least 8 percent of their payroll on employee health care or pay the difference into the state?s Medicaid fund. Of the state?s large employers, only Wal-Mart spends less than 8 percent on health care."


Just because Walmart is the only employer that happens to be effected by this law only further illustrates how lousy they are.

Who wins? TAXPAYERS

Walmart provides low income jobs and the state provides healthcare for them.

Shameful that a company can make 10 billion in profits and suck of the teat of the govt.

If they want to make 10 billion I support that, time to raise prices and quit undercutting the competetion.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: bctbct
Reblublicans can spin this however they want, but here are the facts.

"The bill requires companies with more than 10,000 Maryland employees to spend at least 8 percent of their payroll on employee health care or pay the difference into the state?s Medicaid fund. Of the state?s large employers, only Wal-Mart spends less than 8 percent on health care."

Just because Walmart is the only employer that happens to be effected by this law only further illustrates how lousy they are.

Who wins? TAXPAYERS

Walmart provides low income jobs and the state provides healthcare for them.

Shameful that a company can make 10 billion in profits and suck of the teat of the govt.

If they want to make 10 billion I support that, time to raise prices and quit undercutting the competetion.

Thanks for pointing that out to the Republicans in this thread.

 

[shrumpage]

Originally posted by: bctbct
Reblublicans can spin this however they want, but here are the facts.

"The bill requires companies with more than 10,000 Maryland employees to spend at least 8 percent of their payroll on employee health care or pay the difference into the state?s Medicaid fund. Of the state?s large employers, only Wal-Mart spends less than 8 percent on health care."


Just because Walmart is the only employer that happens to be effected by this law only further illustrates how lousy they are.

Who wins? TAXPAYERS

Walmart provides low income jobs and the state provides healthcare for them.

Shameful that a company can make 10 billion in profits and suck of the teat of the govt.

If they want to make 10 billion I support that, time to raise prices and quit undercutting the competetion.

It would be 15 billion except a 1/3 goes toward taxes, and after everything is said and done, they only net about 3.6% profit. Thats a little less then 3 1/2 cents on the dollar.

They aren't "sucking off the teat" the people whom they higher are. I guess if the state doesn't want to pay for people's health care they don't have to. I just feel the government shouldn't be mandating companies to provide services.

 

[bctbct]

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Originally posted by: bctbct
Reblublicans can spin this however they want, but here are the facts.

"The bill requires companies with more than 10,000 Maryland employees to spend at least 8 percent of their payroll on employee health care or pay the difference into the state?s Medicaid fund. Of the state?s large employers, only Wal-Mart spends less than 8 percent on health care."


Just because Walmart is the only employer that happens to be effected by this law only further illustrates how lousy they are.

Who wins? TAXPAYERS

Walmart provides low income jobs and the state provides healthcare for them.

Shameful that a company can make 10 billion in profits and suck of the teat of the govt.

If they want to make 10 billion I support that, time to raise prices and quit undercutting the competetion.

It would be 15 billion except a 1/3 goes toward taxes, and after everything is said and done, they only net about 3.6% profit. Thats a little less then 3 1/2 cents on the dollar.

They aren't "sucking off the teat" the people whom they higher are. I guess if the state doesn't want to pay for people's health care they don't have to. I just feel the government shouldn't be mandating companies to provide services.

There are things we can change and things we cannot change.

Children and most adults need coverage otherwise the hospitals do not get paid, then they tack it onto your next bill.

We cannot change that they need it, but we can change who must provide it.

You want Walmart to profit off your tax dollars, fine by me, I say we vote because I dont want them to profit off me.

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Donny Baker

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
The principle of the thing of a state dictating to a company on how they do business in the state.

Wal-Mart should threaten to close those stores within the state and build new ones just across the state lines if the bill stands.

Once the state dictates healthcare to one company; they will get into the mode to do for all companies and then demand additioanl benefits.

Sounds like the Federal method of issuing unfunded mandates to the states.

Agreed.

As much as I despise Wal-Mart, the gov't should be able to tell a business how much they should spend. This is atrocious.

So, I take it that you're opposed to OSHA, the FDA, the EPA, and other government agencies which tell business how to run and where to spend their money. Am I right? Or are you just opposed to business health care spending?

Wow...

So where do YOU draw the line?

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Donny Baker

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Donny Baker

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
The principle of the thing of a state dictating to a company on how they do business in the state.

Wal-Mart should threaten to close those stores within the state and build new ones just across the state lines if the bill stands.

Once the state dictates healthcare to one company; they will get into the mode to do for all companies and then demand additioanl benefits.

Sounds like the Federal method of issuing unfunded mandates to the states.

Agreed.

As much as I despise Wal-Mart, the gov't should be able to tell a business how much they should spend. This is atrocious.

So, I take it that you're opposed to OSHA, the FDA, the EPA, and other government agencies which tell business how to run and where to spend their money. Am I right? Or are you just opposed to business health care spending?

Wow...

So where do YOU draw the line?

I don't really draw a line. I'm all for government regulating business for the public good.

 

[EagleKeeper]

And how do you determine the government will actually do it for the public good.

Look at the track record of your favorite Federal government officials.