Wal-Mart throws hissy-fit and prepares to shut unionized store

Steeplerot

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Wal-Mart Canada Corp. announced Wednesday it will close a Quebec store whose unionized employees were involved in negotiations to obtain their first labour contract.

?Despite nine days of meetings over three months, we've been unable to reach an agreement with the union that in our view will allow the store to operate efficiently and profitably,? company spokesman Andrew Pelletier said in a statement.

The store, which will close in May, is located in Saguenay, about 250 kilometres north of Quebec City. Nearly 200 employees received union accreditation last summer, making it the chain's only unionized outlet at the time.

The United Food and Commercial Workers Union was not available for immediate comment but Claudia Tremblay, a cashier at the store, said many employees burst into tears when managers told them about the news Wednesday morning.

?Many people cried, including myself,? Tremblay, 29, said in an interview. ?I'm a mother of two children and I'm separated from my husband. It's very difficult.?

Tremblay said she abstained from the unionization vote, adding she was upset that her non-commital stance won't save her job.

Pelletier said the union walked away on Feb. 1 from the collective-bargaining process, which was scheduled to run until at least March 15, and told the company and the conciliator it would be applying for arbitration.

?On Feb. 2, 2005, the union officially applied for first contract arbitration and in doing so acknowledged that the company and union were not likely to reach a collective agreement,? he said.

Employees at another Wal-Mart store in St-Hyacinthe, east of Montreal, have also been accredited recently.

Wal-Mart operates two other non-unionized stores in the Saguenay-Lac St-Jean region.

Wal-Mart, whose headquarters are in Mississauga, Ont., operates 256 stores and six Sam's Clubs across Canada with more than 70,000 employees.









This is the same stuff they pulled when they ditched butcher jobs when the butchers tried to unionize...There answer sell no more fresh meat -just packaged!
Congrats to the newly wal-mart free city. Now we know what will shut them down. -Their own greed! :beer:

They met 3 times a month? WTF were the management doing the other 27 days of the month? Obviously not working toward a solution. It is obvious keeping their underpaid workers working part-time without benefits and subsidized by food stamps while sucking down corporate welfare is their agenda -not good business sense
 

yllus

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Canadian Wal-Mart Seeking Union to Close
Wal-Mart spokesman Pelletier said the company was closing in Jonquiere because of unreasonable union demands over scheduling and staffing, and the UFCW's refusal to detail its pay requirements.

The union's demands would have forced the retailer to add 30 people to the existing payroll of 190, and guarantee many workers additional hours, he said.

"In our view, the union demands failed to appreciate the fragile conditions of the store," he said.
Managing HR costs in retail is a very significant aspect of being able to deliver an overall profit. I don't care either way about unions, but in this case it sounds like the fiscal reality just wasn't there with what the union was demanding.
 

Steeplerot

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Then wal mart goes bye bye. Their products are as sub-standard as their treatment of their employees so good riddance.
 

dmcowen674

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Ha, I knew this was going to happen.

Now every neighborhood that can't stand Wal-Mart either simply has to convince the people of the town that work there to unionize.

They can do that by simply offering them incentives outside of Wally World.

This is great News. Thanks Canucks :) :thumbsup:
 

Steeplerot

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It's good to see Canada stand up to the trash who think they can get away with this stuff.
 

Steeplerot

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Thats funny because everyone I know in a union are not only employed but paid well and quite proud of it.
You are your only limiting factor so have at it.
 

mwtgg

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Thats funny because everyone I know in a union are not only employed but paid well and quite proud of it.
You are your only limiting factor so have at it.

And those who are not in unions yet paid well? What about them?
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Thats funny because everyone I know in a union are not only employed but paid well and quite proud of it.
You are your only limiting factor so have at it.

That's funny because I've worked with alot of Union folks that are worthless as employees(productivity wise and knowledge wise) yet still get paid the same as the next guy who has to pick up the moron's slack. Oh, and I know alot of "unemployed" Union members. They pick up "hall jobs" but the guys from the halls seem to be some of the worst workers in my experience. One in a while you get a good crew but the majority of the time they seem to be marginal at best.

*shrug* Unions are great if you need someone else to do your bidding for you.

*****

This WalMart situation sucks all the way around. The people who wanted a union cost everyone their jobs. Does WalMart have the right to close any store it wishes? damn straight. Is it "dirty pool" damn straight it is - but so are many Union tactics thus WalMart doesn't want to have to deal with them.

If you don't like WalMart - don't shop their and don't support it. It's just that simple.

CsG
 

miketheidiot

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my dads union seems to do quite well for itself. making much more than he did in any of his non-union jobs before.
 

EagleKeeper

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Who runs the company, management or unions.

If Unions feel that they can ruin the company and the members are willing to allow it, then the members must suffer the consequences.
 

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In most unionized situations I've witnessed the workers shoe contempt for their job, and are there just for the pay. Promotion is not based on skill but on politics and seniority. And the union is forced to stick up for people even it was thier fault. Now I'm not going to say that all unions behave this way, but it is a serious problem non the less. Why are jobs being outsourced?
And if you don't like Walmart don't shop there, I certainly don't but as long as my neighbor wants to I'm not going to stop him.
 

Jadow

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pwned.

serves em right, Wal Mart is willing to pay X for a certain position, no-one is FORCED to work there, and these people wanted more. I say WTG Wal Mart! Stand up for your rights!
 

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Thats funny because everyone I know in a union are not only employed but paid well and quite proud of it.
You are your only limiting factor so have at it.


My experience has been that unions do nothing for the employees they represent except take their money. My wife's work is converting from a union to a guild. The first time they've heard from the union in 6 months (and they've been calling) was the union contesting the change on the basis that they shouldn't be a collective bargaining unit. This seems to me that the union is trying to ruin their collective bargaining because they won't pay the it to do nothing.

As for what the union has done? The attorney they are working with (a specialist in their industry) has told them they have the worst contract he's ever seen.
 

HalosPuma

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Wal-Mart Canada Corp. announced Wednesday it will close a Quebec store whose unionized employees were involved in negotiations to obtain their first labour contract.

?Despite nine days of meetings over three months, we've been unable to reach an agreement with the union that in our view will allow the store to operate efficiently and profitably,? company spokesman Andrew Pelletier said in a statement.

:thumbsup: Good job on Walmart's part not giving in to those damn socialists. Those union comrades just don't understand - in order for them to continue to have a job, their business must be profitable. But at the rate they are demanding, their business will not be profitable and now they have nothing. Haha! I love it when union members get screwed. They are terrible people.
 

Steeplerot

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another case of sadly misinformed sorts...
Unions are on your side if you shrug them of you are limiting yourself.
BTW I like my pickles on the side :laugh:
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: HalosPuma
:thumbsup: Good job on Walmart's part not giving in to those damn socialists. Those union comrades just don't understand - in order for them to continue to have a job, their business must be profitable. But at the rate they are demanding, their business will not be profitable and now they have nothing. Haha! I love it when union members get screwed. They are terrible people.
Wal-Mart not profitable?!? Holy cow, what are you smoking?
 

irwincur

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unions vs. Wal-Mart

Hate em both.

Perhaps this will lead to a war which will destroy both of them, and human kind can once again be free from overpaid trash and dirty sh*thole stores full of overpaid trash.
 

glenn1

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What leverage would a union of WalMart workers have considering most positions there are the most unskilled labor minimum wage jobs on Earth, jobs that could be done by a chimp? (not THE chimp, although I'm sure he'd be okay as a greeter, don't think we'd want Dubya running dangerous equipment like a cash register though). So you're going to strike, big deal. Not like that will make the lines run any slower than they do now.

What's next, a union for convienence store workers? Or the guys with squeeges who try to shake you down for money for cleaning your windshield when you're driving downtown?
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: ciba
As for what the union has done? The attorney they are working with (a specialist in their industry) has told them they have the worst contract he's ever seen.

Meaning two things:

1. Every union contract this lawyer has ever seen is better than the one at issue.

2. The employees are certainly doing the right hting in this particular case.

It doesn't prove, show, or illustrate anything beyond those two things.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: glenn1
What leverage would a union of WalMart workers have considering most positions there are the most unskilled labor minimum wage jobs on Earth, jobs that could be done by a chimp? (not THE chimp, although I'm sure he'd be okay as a greeter, don't think we'd want Dubya running dangerous equipment like a cash register though). So you're going to strike, big deal. Not like that will make the lines run any slower than they do now.

What's next, a union for convienence store workers? Or the guys with squeeges who try to shake you down for money for cleaning your windshield when you're driving downtown?

Considering how dangerous convience store employees jobs are I could see a need for a union to make sure they have adequete protective measures in their stores if the boss is letting them get robbed again and again.
Squeege guys are kinda independent I do not see how they could have a union.
 

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Who runs the company, management or unions.

If Unions feel that they can ruin the company and the members are willing to allow it, then the members must suffer the consequences.

Well said. :beer::D
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: HalosPuma
:thumbsup: Good job on Walmart's part not giving in to those damn socialists. Those union comrades just don't understand - in order for them to continue to have a job, their business must be profitable. But at the rate they are demanding, their business will not be profitable and now they have nothing. Haha! I love it when union members get screwed. They are terrible people.
Wal-Mart not profitable?!? Holy cow, what are you smoking?

According to the Wally World Corp Thugs the store cannot be "profitable" having Union employees.