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Wal-Mart strike turned out to be an epic fail

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Now who is Wal-marts target demographic for consumers again? Oh that's right they sell to the lower end of the consumer spectrum (aka the poor) so their profit margin on goods and services is often razor thin and dependent on volume and cost cutting. So in your rush to provide that "living-wage" for a job that is basically worth a minimum wage salary don't forget whose standard of living you'll be reducing and cost of living increasing.
 
Considering the staggering size of WalMart (gross sales will hit half a trillion if trends continue), they actually don't post insane profits. Something like 13-16 Billion/year on sales of ~400+.

That said, I think they are actually somewhat predatory in their activities. I remember Sam Walton's style of WalMart. Smaller. Happier workers. Vertical mobility. Lots of 'Made in America' pride.

In rural Texas (and I imagine this is true in many areas), their ability to completely dominate small town economies is staggering. It's bad enough when they apply brute-force pricing that cuts the throats of local small businesses, but it's even worse when they are able to completely flatten a town, and then leave it a vacant husk. This isn't as uncommon as you might think.

Proponents of minimum wage staying low, and of corps like WalMart successfully annihilating attempts to unionize seem to view things through a particular prism. At the end of the day, we still pay the bills. It's just that at the status quo, much of the $ that gets these people by comes from the federal gov't through social programs. You could look at it that instead of WalMart Corp paying the full costs of a typical worker, they pay a portion, then we all (all of us with a net positive federal tax burden that is) pay the rest for them, whether or not we actually buy anything from WalMart.

I like to look at things pragmatically. I actually believe that WalMart might even see higher profits with a few tweaks that made things better for workers. I also observe that their scientifically applied store designs are just a horrifying environment to the sensibility. It's all by design, with tens of thousands of manhours in ordered intensity. The cavernous, industrial-looking interior design, the cheap and annoying lighting, the lack of sound dampening, the completely random layout from one store to the next (so you never know exactly where something is in a walmart the town over), the small signs to make you search longer for things you want, the tall vertical stacks of crap or advertising signage to further obscure clear visual cues on which section you would like to find, the propensity for aisles themselves to be cluttered with crap blocking your path to slow you down, the eye-level stocking of higher-profit SKUs, the end-cap stocking of SKUs with high attachment rates (ie; buy this, but you will probably want X, and possibly Y and Z to go with it), so on and so forth. It's an absolute science. It's as impressive as it is physically and psychically assaultive to experience. The things that one would think would hurt WalMart, such as the horrendous lighting, noise, and clutter, actually cause people to stay longer and buy more on average, due to a bizarre but proven psychological response to stress.

Contrast with a place like Target, where typically the lighting is more natural/easy on the eyes, sound is much more controlled, layouts much more sensible, and general visibility far improved. Of course even a place like Target is still an exercise primarily in profit-making, and so it should be in a capitalist economy, but I do believe they find a better balance, and the prices aren't even too far off in most cases, and in many are just as cheap.
 
I heard that to pay their employees 25,000 a year prices on items have to go up 15 cents. But anyway, American capitalism has failed. Reducing wages and benefits and jobs of American workers just means nobody can buy anything. The hungry and sick will just tear down all of society to get even unless the assholes can be shamed.
 
I heard that to pay their employees 25,000 a year prices on items have to go up 15 cents. But anyway, American capitalism has failed. Reducing wages and benefits and jobs of American workers just means nobody can buy anything. The hungry and sick will just tear down all of society to get even unless the assholes can be shamed.

Awesome, you can join the other dimwits here in their revolution. Meanwhile the rest of us have to go work.
 
Considering the staggering size of WalMart (gross sales will hit half a trillion if trends continue), they actually don't post insane profits. Something like 13-16 Billion/year on sales of ~400+.

3% profit per store. They could raise wages, but not by enough to make a real difference.
 
3% profit per store. They could raise wages, but not by enough to make a real difference.

The typical Walmart rakes in $55,000,000 in profit per year. They employ about 180-270 workers per location. No room for improvement?

Not to mention the benefits of retention if they actually paid a decent wage.
 
Initial failure is just that; an initial failure. It is by no means the end. Rather, this is a beginning. I've seen and lived through this process before. History is filled with beginnings like this. More workerss are encouraged and motivated than discouraged and disheartened by these inital failures. The tighter the economic screws are applied to these workers the more desperate they get for relief. Desperation manifests itself into bravery, into daring, into realizing the only means available to them to improve their standard of living is to join hands and unite in a common cause. It's only a matter of time.

Here folks is another fine example of a stupid liberal who has no idea how things actually work. He is yet another who has no concept of the wage/price spiral. If the workers who work at Walmart get paid more then prices go up at Walmart and all of a sudden the extra buying power they enjoyed for a short time is erased. Then they are demanding more....rinse repeat. Unions really are this stupid. They may not even be able to get some products when the prices get too high and either no one buys them at that price of the company cannot afford to produce them at a price people will pay.....Hostess anyone?
 
Not to mention the benefits of retention if they actually paid a decent wage.

Wal-Mart's operation is heavily automated and only requires human intervention for menial labor-type tasks and the occasional edge case. High turnover of store staff is built into their business model, and the only thing Wal-Mart would get from increased retention is higher labor costs.

Wal-Mart pays the market rate. Where retaining staff is important, Wal-Mart pays well.
 
Funny how all this hate is turned towards Walmart for not paying non skilled laborers (cashier, stock personnel) a "living" wage yet neither does Target, Kroger, Sears, Penneys, or any other major retailer.
 
I think a lot of the posters here, don't have the skills it takes to run a till at WalMart
One day of that and they would be crying to go back to their cubical.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skilled_worker

This may be true however, when I was 16 I ran a register at a local grocery store. Back then you have to manually enter the price as barcode scanners weren't around. None the less this is a non skilled labor position as most people with an average intelligence can be trained to scan items and hit several buttons to complete the transaction.
 
This may be true however, when I was 16 I ran a register at a local grocery store. Back then you have to manually enter the price as barcode scanners weren't around. None the less this is a non skilled labor position as most people with an average intelligence can be trained to scan items and hit several buttons to complete the transaction.

So basically something like people skills is something that should be valued very highly
 
If a company ends up going union it is most often the fault of the company. Even unskilled labor has limits. The fact that most walmarts are non union tells me that it must not be that bad.
 
Rosa Parks refused to go to the back of the bus. Then there was the time NASA launched three sheep and it was the herd shot round the world.
 
Here folks is another fine example of a stupid liberal who has no idea how things actually work. He is yet another who has no concept of the wage/price spiral. If the workers who work at Walmart get paid more then prices go up at Walmart and all of a sudden the extra buying power they enjoyed for a short time is erased. Then they are demanding more....rinse repeat. Unions really are this stupid. They may not even be able to get some products when the prices get too high and either no one buys them at that price of the company cannot afford to produce them at a price people will pay.....Hostess anyone?


LOL, you don't have to take my post completely out of context to make a point. You should have referred to one of my other posts in this thread. It would have made more sense.

However, let me respond to a couple of erroneous assumptions on your part. It's rather stupid of you to refer to me as a liberal just because I post some factual evidence on the part of how unions get established into the workplace. It's somewhat stupid of you to refer to unions as stupid because it makes you look even stupider than stupid, especially after I referred to Costco and their unionized employees and how successful they are in another post that you stupidly didn't refer to and of which you should have to correctly address the argument you stupidly misplaced.

But that's OK, because the point you stupidly made in the wrong posting actually does have a credible argument in it. However, I'm compelled to disagree with you given what factual evidence I know of that you apparently don't.

To be clear, I have management experience that pitted me against unions that attempted to organize our toolmaking shop. I got the tires slashed, paint job ruined and windows smashed into tiny sparkling jewels on my beloved Corvette from those encounters. But our company prevailed and survived simply because what we offered our employees was better than what the unions were able to offer.

I also have experience as a union business agent for many years in another company I worked at. I volunteered for that job when, after watching management attempt to exploit the employees in nefarious and despicable ways I felt a need to respond to that kind of treatment. I also wanted to address some issues that the union itself created by not being representative of all employees. Instead, the union was being overly preferential toward employees with high seniority, as these senior employees were overly represented in the ranks of shop stewards and associate business agents. Didn't make many frtends there either but the issue was put to rest to the satisfaction of less senior union members.

My point: Whether I worked for management or union, I fought for what was fair and equitable for all interests involved, as that formula proved best for profitability on management's part and job security, job satisfaction, upward mobility and morale on the side of the hourly wage earners.
 
i think this just means there was no story to begin with. so a few retards watched the last few episodes of walking dead and they too thought they could be Governor. fuck them and fuck the people who tried to make this a story.
 
I have no problem running the automated checkout at the grocery store.

Your a man of multiple skills.
Good for you

A lot of us worked jobs like that in high school. It doesn't take any skill, it's just a shitty job. Of course I'd "run back to my cubicle", my job is much better, requires skills and an education.

Ya, I hate dealing with the teenagers, you can tell they have no respect for their job
I'd gladly fork over a couple of cents to have some decent service
 
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