Wal-Mart strike turned out to be an epic fail

Doppel

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Of course. I think most of us predicted this, it was never going to work. Strikes like this require real leadership and are hard to do at the best of times. Walmart does generally not employ the most "take life by the balls" types people.
 

gsaldivar

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Maybe this had something to do with it...

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Matt1970

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Less that 50 of the over 1.4 Million Wal-Mart Employees protested. Ya, that's epic fail.
 

DucatiMonster696

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It was either over-hyped by everyone involved (which includes the MSM) or it was really a epic fail on the part of the organizers or maybe a little bit of column A and a little bit of column B. Either way a epic fail is an epic fail.
 

trenchfoot

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Initial failure is just that; an initial failure. It is by no means the end. Rather, this is a beginning. I've seen and lived through this process before. History is filled with beginnings like this. More workerss are encouraged and motivated than discouraged and disheartened by these inital failures. The tighter the economic screws are applied to these workers the more desperate they get for relief. Desperation manifests itself into bravery, into daring, into realizing the only means available to them to improve their standard of living is to join hands and unite in a common cause. It's only a matter of time.
 

Nintendesert

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Initial failure is just that; an initial failure. It is by no means the end. Rather, this is a beginning. I've seen and lived through this process before. History is filled with beginnings like this. More workerss are encouraged and motivated than discouraged and disheartened by these inital failures. The tighter the economic screws are applied to these workers the more desperate they get for relief. Desperation manifests itself into bravery, into daring, into realizing the only means available to them to improve their standard of living is to join hands and unite in a common cause. It's only a matter of time.



You keep believing that bullshit. Did you see the consumer-whore America at Black Friday today? They don't give a fuck about the people that work there. They just want their cheap chinese made shit.

Until Americans give a shit about their fellow Americans jobs to include manufacturing jobs, Wal-Mart will keep peddling cheap chinese shit to save Americans a few bucks because that's what Americans demand.

And if Wal-Mart workers want to improve their lot in life, they need to go back to school or learn a trade. Bitching at a large corporation that gives America what it overwhelmingly wants isn't going to get you far.
 

conehead433

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When the employees got hired at WM they knew the pay wasn't that great. Striking on their busiest day of the year is a huge diss to WM. They should be glad to have a job, and I'm sure those same low paying jobs will be snatched up quickly after all the no shows on BF are fired.
 

xj0hnx

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Initial failure is just that; an initial failure. It is by no means the end. Rather, this is a beginning. I've seen and lived through this process before. History is filled with beginnings like this. More workerss are encouraged and motivated than discouraged and disheartened by these inital failures. The tighter the economic screws are applied to these workers the more desperate they get for relief. Desperation manifests itself into bravery, into daring, into realizing the only means available to them to improve their standard of living is to join hands and unite in a common cause. It's only a matter of time.

You're talking about jobs at fucking Walmart. These aren't exactly once in a lifetime, can't get any better than this, must fight for my job type of employment.
 

trenchfoot

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You keep believing that bullshit. Did you see the consumer-whore America at Black Friday today? They don't give a fuck about the people that work there. They just want their cheap chinese made shit.

Until Americans give a shit about their fellow Americans jobs to include manufacturing jobs, Wal-Mart will keep peddling cheap chinese shit to save Americans a few bucks because that's what Americans demand.

And if Wal-Mart workers want to improve their lot in life, they need to go back to school or learn a trade. Bitching at a large corporation that gives America what it overwhelmingly wants isn't going to get you far.

Like I said, I've seen this process repeat itself far too many times for me to believe you that it's "bullshit". All I'm describing are factual events that repeat itself. Unions exist because there is a need for them. That's also an undeniable fact, or they would not exist.

There are folks that either like the jobs they have at Walmart but would like at least a subsistence standard of living from it, and there are those whose abilities limit them to having to work at places like Walmart. They want what we all want. If they perceive that the only means available to them is to organize themselves and negotiate for fair wages and benefits then by law, they have that right.

You would deny them the same rights you have just because you don't like unions? How fair is that?
 

Nintendesert

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Like I said, I've seen this process repeat itself far too many times for me to believe you that it's "bullshit". All I'm describing are factual events that repeat itself. Unions exist because there is a need for them. That's also an undeniable fact, or they would not exist.

There are folks that either like the jobs they have at Walmart but would like at least a subsistence standard of living from it, and there are those whose abilities limit them to having to work at places like Walmart. They want what we all want. If they perceive that the only means available to them is to organize themselves and negotiate for fair wages and benefits then by law, they have that right.

You would deny them the same rights you have just because you don't like unions? How fair is that?




I'm not trying to deny them anything turd face. I'm stating the American public is denying them this because the American public demands low priced Chinese junk.

The American public wants Wal-Mart to hire unskilled masses to work for low wages because it keeps prices down and that's what America values right now.

It failed to do shit and it will continue to do shit until Americans stop fucking over their fellow Americans. Good luck with that.
 

DucatiMonster696

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I'm not trying to deny them anything turd face. I'm stating the American public is denying them this because the American public demands low priced Chinese junk.

The American public wants Wal-Mart to hire unskilled masses to work for low wages because it keeps prices down and that's what America values right now.

It failed to do shit and it will continue to do shit until Americans stop fucking over their fellow Americans. Good luck with that.

By the "American" public you are also talking about yourself right?
 

trenchfoot

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You're talking about jobs at fucking Walmart. These aren't exactly once in a lifetime, can't get any better than this, must fight for my job type of employment.

For alot of folks this is probably all they can aspire to. It's all they can get, hang on to and hope for a promotion, raises, better working conditions, etc. I respect them for wanting to work rather than living off of welfare. Don't you? Isn't that what many of you who despise freeloaders always point to? To get a job? ANY job? Well, there they are. They work for a living and live for the American dream just like the rest of us. For many, it may be a starting point to a better life. For others it's that job at Walmart or starvation. For others still, it's a chance for steady work that could be made into a living IF they could just have a little more than Walmart is willing to give. Rather Walmart would have us taxpayers foot the bill for what they should provide in all fairness.

I'm not trying to deny them anything turd face. I'm stating the American public is denying them this because the American public demands low priced Chinese junk.

The American public wants Wal-Mart to hire unskilled masses to work for low wages because it keeps prices down and that's what America values right now.

It failed to do shit and it will continue to do shit until Americans stop fucking over their fellow Americans. Good luck with that.

I understand. And my wife would be very angry with you if I told her what you called me, but only because she feels that only she has the right to call me that nasty moniker you tagged me with. ;)

And yes, Americans pay for cheap shit, and many of them buy cheap shit not because that's all they're willing to pay, but instead it's all they can afford to pay because they work for businesses that only pay cheap wages just like Walmart. Less pay = more profit. Walmart is not only exploiting their employees, they're exploiting the very folks who buy their products and here's how they do it: Like I previously mentioned, Walmart makes every taxpaying citizen pay for their employees health care through the hospital emergency room and through other social services that our gov't provide.

Add to that, Walmart, through its marketing and wage scale strategies are depressing wages wherever they set up shop. They kill off small businesses that paid better wages by undercutting them and then monopolize the surrounding area. A good business plan you say? Sure, if all you're interested in is padding your investment portfolio. However, as a result, the standard of living in the surrounding area goes down. The flow of $$$ now channels toward investors instead of folks who just want to make a decent living. The circulation of currency dries up within the community and flows to Walmart Corporate headquarters.

In direct contrast, there's Costco that employs union members. They seem to be doing just fine. Walmart, if they chose to, would do just fine as well. And if Walmart did allow union membership, then everyone would benefit from it, both customers and employees.

It's not so much what Americans are willing to pay. It's how money sucking machines like Walmart monopolize a region and get its customers addicted to whatever Walmart, and Walmart alone, determines what they will offer and at what price they offer their products at.
 

1prophet

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Initial failure is just that; an initial failure. It is by no means the end. Rather, this is a beginning. I've seen and lived through this process before. History is filled with beginnings like this. More workerss are encouraged and motivated than discouraged and disheartened by these inital failures. The tighter the economic screws are applied to these workers the more desperate they get for relief. Desperation manifests itself into bravery, into daring, into realizing the only means available to them to improve their standard of living is to join hands and unite in a common cause. It's only a matter of time.


Sorry no, most Americans lack long term thinking, resolve, and are apathetic at best, few if any are willing to make the sacrifices necessary to bring about change,

the America you are thinking about ended in the late 60's early 70's, today it's all about the "self" along with "Bread and Circuses"

The greed is good, profit at the expense of everything else, what have you done for me lately mentality is prevalent today not the

"ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country." mentality
 

Throckmorton

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And if Wal-Mart workers want to improve their lot in life, they need to go back to school or learn a trade. Bitching at a large corporation that gives America what it overwhelmingly wants isn't going to get you far.

This shit again? Are you incapable of critical thinking? Some portion of the population will always have to work these jobs. Everyone can't work in the trades. If they did, there would be a massive glut of labor. It takes all kinds of work to make the economy work, and writing off the area where most of the jobs are simply because there is some opportunity to move to something better is just ridiculously asinine.

Following your dumbassed logic, no job has to pay a living wage, because after all anybody can "become president" and make $400k. But do you see the problem with that? Only one person can be president. Everyone else still has to do other jobs. There are only trades jobs for a small portion of our population.

So please stop with this "they can learn a trade" bullshit. Just stop. Think before you type it.
 
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