Wake Up, America!

[brycejones]

Haha, thank you for the excellent example of what you do when confronted with a different viewpoint.

Sometimes I really do wonder if you're a parody poster designed to make conservatives look dumb. It's hard to imagine anyone has this little self awareness.

But we have a decent list here:
toasterboy - long gone
DSF
incorruptible (may just be mentally challenged)
John Conner
speedy
tajbot
pcgeek11
glenn1

 

[Moonbeam]

Perk, once "liberals" (very generalized term I know and many different forms) can get over their defective genetic programming of experiencing a Fight or Flight response in their brains' fear centers (insula, amygdala) will this country grant your wish to "be better". It's not a secret who's trying to censor, prevent free speech (see University of WI liberals in action) b/c their unevolved amygdalas and insulas got triggered. From the USC study:


Would you agree that considering an alternative view takes intelligence and is a trait of higher-IQ people?

Hehe, this is pretty funny. Aside from not seeming to have read much beside this study you took from it what you wanted to believe but is not really thus stated. In order to test which parts of the brain are active in change resistance you have to study brains of people with that potential. It has already been documented and peer reviewed confirmed that conservative ego protection of cherished beliefs creates a greater tendency to rationalize away facts than for liberals who are more amenable to changing their minds with new information. I would think that by examining those liberals most dedicated to liberal belief you would be testing people whose strong beliefs can be challenged. Consistent with that, the degree of change in opinion, both politically and otherwise, was dependent of the subjective quality attributed to the rebuttal of those beliefs and that one factor is a difference in degree of change between the two areas might be that politically dedicated liberals already have far more political information and expertise in political matters than they do in other fields. They may in fact be well adapted to all manner of bull shit thrown up as opposition having long ago considered it and found it wanting. I have that very experience when a Jehovah's Witness or Mormon knocks on my door.

And try to understand, there is real and irrational fear. Modern American Republicans are mentally ill and dangerous to the nation. That threat is very very real. Your problem is that you are so afraid of reality you can't see it.

 

[SP33Demon]

Haha, thank you for the excellent example of what you do when confronted with a different viewpoint.

Sometimes I really do wonder if you're a parody poster designed to make conservatives look dumb. It's hard to imagine anyone has this little self awareness.

womp womp

 

[SP33Demon]

Hehe, this is pretty funny. Aside from not seeming to have read much beside this study you took from it what you wanted to believe but is not really thus stated. In order to test which parts of the brain are active in change resistance you have to study brains of people with that potential. It has already been documented and peer reviewed confirmed that conservative ego protection of cherished beliefs creates a greater tendency to rationalize away facts than for liberals who are more amenable to changing their minds with new information. I would think that by examining those liberals most dedicated to liberal belief you would be testing people whose strong beliefs can be challenged. Consistent with that, the degree of change in opinion, both politically and otherwise, was dependent of the subjective quality attributed to the rebuttal of those beliefs and that one factor is a difference in degree of change between the two areas might be that politically dedicated liberals already have far more political information and expertise in political matters than they do in other fields. They may in fact be well adapted to all manner of bull shit thrown up as opposition having long ago considered it and found it wanting. I have that very experience when a Jehovah's Witness or Mormon knocks on my door.

And try to understand, there is real and irrational fear. Modern American Republicans are mentally ill and dangerous to the nation. That threat is very very real. Your problem is that you are so afraid of reality you can't see it.

You realize the amygdala represents the fear center of the brain, real or irrational? It's a legit study from a liberal college in a liberal state that did MRI's on liberals who had fight or flight responses to major political issues like abortion. Professors equate it to someone physically trying to attack them, as if someone was right in front of your computer screen with a fist aimed at your eyes. That is how triggered they get, according to the study's results.

Also if you really want to get into Dems vs Repubs on IQ over the general population, conservatives easily win. They are generally richer which means access to better schools and education. If you want me to link the study, I can but I'm about to go camping in the great wilderness and behold the Lord's creations.

Moonie, the more you are willing to accept your physiological flaws as a liberal, the better. I would recommend training your brain by reading Drudge, dailycaller, Fox, etc. Also, repent to the One who loves you like I have. Then and only then will you find true transcendental happiness.

 

[Moonbeam]

Haha, thank you for the excellent example of what you do when confronted with a different viewpoint.

Sometimes I really do wonder if you're a parody poster designed to make conservatives look dumb. It's hard to imagine anyone has this little self awareness.

Really, I find it hard to imagine anybody with a better reason to be motivation not to having any.

 

[Moonbeam]

You realize the amygdala represents the fear center of the brain, real or irrational? It's a legit study from a liberal college in a liberal state that did MRI's on liberals who had fight or flight responses to major political issues like abortion. Professors equate it to someone physically trying to attack them, as if someone was right in front of your computer screen with a fist aimed at your eyes. That is how triggered they get, according to the study's results.

Also if you really want to get into Dems vs Repubs on IQ over the general population, conservatives easily win. They are generally richer which means access to better schools and education. If you want me to link the study, I can but I'm about to go camping in the great wilderness and behold the Lord's creations.

Moonie, the more you are willing to accept your physiological flaws as a liberal, the better. I would recommend training your brain by reading Drudge, dailycaller, Fox, etc. Also, repent to the One who loves you like I have. Then and only then will you find true transcendental happiness.

You are aware, I hope, that self reported conservatives have larger right amygdalae than self reported liberals and smaller cingulates, the part of the brain that suppresses fear to allow for calmer rational analysis? In short, all of the so called defects you are claiming to be characteristic of liberals have been shown to be truer of conservatives. And all of that even before we get to whether a heightened fear response has no evolutionary benefits, at least up to the Pleistocene.

 

[Thebobo]

Liberals can swim better to

 

[Perknose]

You are aware, I hope, that self reported conservatives have larger right amygdalae than self reported liberals and smaller cingulates, the part of the brain that suppresses fear to allow for calmer rational analysis? In short, all of the so called defects you are claiming to be characteristic of liberals have been shown to be truer of conservatives. And all of that even before we get to whether a heightened fear response has no evolutionary benefits, at least up to the Pleistocene.

^^^ This Speedy, this. Hard to believe you didn't already know this, it's been discussed and the studies have been linked to more than once here.

I feel bad for you, hiding your fear behind puffed up hubris and intellectually dishonest shit posts.

Try not to get triggered that the facts make you look like one irony-challenged dimbulb, k?

 

[cytg111]

Perk, once "liberals" (very generalized term I know and many different forms) can get over their defective genetic programming of experiencing a Fight or Flight response in their brains' fear centers (insula, amygdala) will this country grant your wish to "be better". It's not a secret who's trying to censor, prevent free speech (see University of WI liberals in action) b/c their unevolved amygdalas and insulas got triggered. From the USC study:


Would you agree that considering an alternative view takes intelligence and is a trait of higher-IQ people?



So for society's progress, people stop getting fearfully triggered please. I know it's not something liberals (and probably some conservatives too though I doubt much less since we are K-selected, not r) can control but now that it's out there as a fact, at least try to contain emotions when presented with an opposing viewpoint. It's not life and death or Fight/flight to consider another viewpoint, even if it's conservative. I'm perfectly willing to debate liberals since I live with one and not get emo about it and challenge each other on why we believe x or y.

A good start would be accepting that belief systems evolve as more facts are presented. Look at our belief systems on slavery, gold vs fiat currencies, population bomb fears (i.e. there won't be enough resources for everyone on earth by x date), lending standards for homes, etc. All of these beliefs have changed in the past 100 years. Liberals will have to either evolve and learn to consider opposing viewpoints or their kids probably will since some of their current agenda is unsustainable (e.g. sjw behavior like in the video I linked, identity politics like BLM, free-everything-for-everyone, 50 different imaginary genders). Normal voters aren't going to take such a party seriously when it's espousing crap like that and then refusing to even debate what they believe without getting triggered and/or trying to censor/shut down the views of what triggered their amygdala's.

I'd posit that most high-iq liberals are capable of defeating this brain defect by simple training - start reading conservative news sites. And this is coming from someone who voted Obama in 2008 and was all about Gore in 2000 (yes I may have suffered a mild case of this defect in the past). Hell I routinely check the Left's MSM (CNN/MSNBC/Huffpo) to see what they're spinning and see if any of it makes sense from an objective point of view. It also provides a broader view of a topic instead of just an echo-chamber-like view that never gets challenged or evolves b/c of the ostrich-head-in-the-sand behavior.

I havent looked it up but we could.. IQ is statistically bound to education right? I guess we could look up who with what background voted Trump vs. Hillary ... I know one of them said "I love the uneducated" but I forgot which one it was...

 

[shortylickens]

I'm awake.
Just not smart enough to make other people see the world around them, to make them question and criticize and analyze.

Sorry. I'm fairly mediocre.

 

[dphantom]

Obama was term limited; he left office as was his duty under the Constitution. You didn't get rid of anyone. Also, Obama was a moderate conservative. Even self-proclaimed socialist Bernie Sanders isn't a socialist, more of a moderate liberal.

obama was a fucking marxist. so is bernie. shit calling obama conservative is like calling stalin a misunderstood liberal. shows just how far a leftist you are. JFK was a moderate. He makes obama and his heir Clinton apparent on par with Trotsky and Lenin.

 

[brycejones]

obama was a fucking marxist. so is bernie. shit calling obama conservative is like calling stalin a misunderstood liberal. shows just how far a leftist you are. JFK was a moderate. He makes obama and his heir Clinton apparent on par with Trotsky and Lenin.

Lordy

 

[dphantom]

Still drunk from yesterday? Or just the usual projection?

no to friking busy pulling a drunk who was drowning out of the water. His 3 friends were looking at him and decided he was fine. he wasnt. Then today I had to help a jet ski driver who lost control of her unit and couldn't get it upright. finally, a pontoon boat - very heavily overloaded - was waving a flag and needed a tow in to shore. engine failure and drunk as well.

so a very busy couple of days and all i wanted to do was burn a lot of gasoline tubing and cruising the lake.

and yes everyone I know obama was term limited and his chosen successor fortunately got her fat ass handed to her.

 

[dphantom]

Lordy

yeah amazing isnt it just how far left liberal is today. shoot, growing up a liberal was JFK and more lately say a Senator Moynihan or Lieberman.

 

[brycejones]

yeah amazing isnt it just how far left liberal is today. shoot, growing up a liberal was JFK and more lately say a Senator Moynihan or Lieberman.

Or just how fucking stupid you are, Obama a Marxist?

Excessive amounts of haha removed.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Serious person this is?

obama was a fucking marxist. so is bernie. shit calling obama conservative is like calling stalin a misunderstood liberal. shows just how far a leftist you are. JFK was a moderate. He makes obama and his heir Clinton apparent on par with Trotsky and Lenin.

 

[brycejones]

Serious person this is?

Its like he doesn't know what Kennedy was actually for or what marxism is.

 

[dphantom]

Its like he doesn't know what Kennedy was actually for or what marxism is.

yep pretty serious. much history knowledge lost, there has been. younglins today little they know

 

[IronWing]

obama was a fucking marxist. so is bernie. shit calling obama conservative is like calling stalin a misunderstood liberal. shows just how far a leftist you are. JFK was a moderate. He makes obama and his heir Clinton apparent on par with Trotsky and Lenin.

A Marxist was responsible for Obamacare, a free market giveaway crafted by the Heritage Foundation?

 

[Paratus]

obama was a fucking marxist. so is bernie. shit calling obama conservative is like calling stalin a misunderstood liberal. shows just how far a leftist you are. JFK was a moderate. He makes obama and his heir Clinton apparent on par with Trotsky and Lenin.

Good example of an unregulated amygdala running rampant right here.

 

[brycejones]

yep pretty serious. much history knowledge lost, there has been. younglins today little they know

Have you experienced a serious head injury?

 

[brycejones]

A Marxist was responsible for Obamacare, a free market giveaway crafted by the Heritage Foundation?

JFK also pushed for Medicare which was government pushing private insurance out of the market for older Americans. Definitely sounds like something those freaked out by marxism and socialism would be freaked out by.

 

[IronWing]

JFK also pushed for Medicare which was government pushing private insurance out of the market for older Americans. Definitely sounds like something those freaked out by marxism and socialism would be freaked out by.

There was no market for health insurance for the elderly before Medicare. The private sector didn't want to touch it.

 

[brycejones]

There was no market for health insurance for the elderly before Medicare. The private sector didn't want to touch it.

Before Medicare was created, approximately 60% of people over the age of 65 had health insurance, with coverage often unavailable or unaffordable to many others, as older adults paid more than three times as much for health insurance as younger people. -Wikipedia page on medicare

It was there, but coverage rates were pretty crappy

 

[Thunder 57]

Obama was term limited; he left office as was his duty under the Constitution. You didn't get rid of anyone. Also, Obama was a moderate conservative. Even self-proclaimed socialist Bernie Sanders isn't a socialist, more of a moderate liberal.

Hahahahaha! Obama? Conservative? At best he was center left.

But we have a decent list here:
toasterboy - long gone
DSF
incorruptible (may just be mentally challenged)
John Conner
speedy
tajbot
pcgeek11
glenn1

I thought calling out those who had not participated in a thread was not allowed? I could have sworn I saw someone warned for this not all that long ago?

obama was a fucking marxist. so is bernie. shit calling obama conservative is like calling stalin a misunderstood liberal. shows just how far a leftist you are. JFK was a moderate. He makes obama and his heir Clinton apparent on par with Trotsky and Lenin.

I don't believe JFK would align with the current democratic party.

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We choose to go to the Moon! We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard; because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one we intend to win, and the others, too."