Wait for haswell "bugs" to be ironed out before buying?

[TuxDave]

Why is the 4770s only running at 3.1Ghz?

Because the TDP is lower?

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

I'm waiting for this, to figure out whether or not non-K CPUs allow the new BCLK straps, and also for more mobo choices.

If you're buying a pre-built system again, and you don't intend to overclock, there's no reason to wait.

Hell, I don't know what I'm doing wrong (already lowered RAM and CPU multipliers), but for the life of me, I can't get my 4770K to POST on the 125BCLK strap.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

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[AdamK47]

You might as well Haswell.

 

[bononos]

The Haswells being sold now do not have the fix, they are still bugged. I for one am waiting until the new stepping before I consider getting a Haswell.

Intel has said that it is fixed in the c2 8 series chipset stepping.

 

[Kenmitch]

Hell, I don't know what I'm doing wrong (already lowered RAM and CPU multipliers), but for the life of me, I can't get my 4770K to POST on the 125BCLK strap.

That sucks. Not much info on the net yet about it either.

Did you try the 166bclk strap to see if it'll boot?

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Intel has said that it is fixed in the c2 8 series chipset stepping.

How long will that take to come out

 

[allenk09]

Released with 58 known bugs, per the haswell data sheet.

http://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...-core-family-desktop-specification-update.pdf

 

[nitromullet]

Another issue is the incompatibility with 1st gen SandForce (1xxx) drives.

I'm glad you mentioned this. I'm having some crazy issues with my Corsair F120, and I had a foggy recollection of reading your post earlier today. Seems I'm not the only one having issues.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/06/03/asus_z87a_lga_1150_motherboard_review/7#.UbGjgJxWqsM

I've been looking for an excuse to get a bigger SSD for my main rig, and put the F120 into my PowerBook anyway.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

id definitely wait. there are probably other major bugs besides the usb 3 one that will get fixed as well. they need these first few months in the hands of the "beta testers" to find out what problems exist

 

[Magic Carpet]

Released with 58 known bugs, per the haswell data sheet.

http://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...-core-family-desktop-specification-update.pdf

Thanks, interesting read

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

I'm glad you mentioned this. I'm having some crazy issues with my Corsair F120, and I had a foggy recollection of reading your post earlier today. Seems I'm not the only one having issues.

Yup. Ran headlong into this with my Vertex 2 120GB, which has always been my test SSD. Thought I was going crazy at first until I brought it up at the Hardforum and saw Kyle's review.

 

[nitromullet]

Yup. Ran headlong into this with my Vertex 2 120GB, which has always been my test SSD. Thought I was going crazy at first until I brought it up at the Hardforum and saw Kyle's review.

To be fair though, as described by Kyle, this isn't really a Haswell bug. I consider this more to be a shortcoming on the part of the SSD that is just being exposed by Haswell.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

To be fair though, as described by Kyle, this isn't really a Haswell bug. I consider this more to be a shortcoming on the part of the SSD that is just being exposed by Haswell.

That's technically correct, but SF1xxx does work with every other chipset released thus far.
No matter, mobo makers will probably issue a patch for this soon.

 

[nitromullet]

That's technically correct, but SF1xxx does work with every other chipset released thus far.
No matter, mobo makers will probably issue a patch for this soon.

Yeah, I have mixed feelings about it. It's been a great little SSD for years so I can't fault it, but I get that as available power goes down tolerances will need to be tighter.

Interestingly enough, the issue got considerably worse when I flashed the BIOS on my board. It came with version F3, and it was mostly functional. Flashing to the F5 BIOS made it completely unusable.