W.T.F. Guillemot Ripoff

[nino]

I just got my Guillemot GeForce2 MX board and it has 7ns ram on it instead of the 5.5ns that they are posting on their website. Can you say "false advertisement"? Anyone else get screwed like this? I'm thinking if enough of us complain that we'll get the boards that we paid for. I paid extra for this board because I believed that the 5.5ns ram was worth the extra $$. I'm sure that you can tell that I feel totally ripped off. I'll be bitchin on Monday for sure.
Let me know if you got the same shaft that I did

 

[Tulkas]

I remember reading a thread that shared the same results.
That really sucks!


I have been shafted like that before!
I Feel Your Pain!

 

[RacerX]

Where did you order it from? Also do you mean the blue Hercules card or something else? Was it OEM? Just wondering cause I have one on order now.

 

[Subversal]

Someone on another forum posted this from Herc/Guillemot:

Dear Customer,

It seems as though you have purchased an OEM version of this video card. The
OEM version is intended to be sold solely with an entire system package. This
card does have 7ns memory and is over clocked to 166 Mhz. The retail version
of the card is 5.5ns and not over clocked at a speed of 183 Mhz.

Please keep in mind that your system vendor is responsable for all support on
this product included warranty fulfillment.
Regards,
Chris Courtois
Guillemot/Hercules Tech Support North America
Video Specialist

Sounds like a total shaft to me. I bought one from Micro-Pro... their site doesn't mention it even being OEM, but I knew it was from pricewatch. What I didn't know was the OEM version of P2 MX are inferior to the retail version.... memory wise. I promptly returned it. The card it exactly like the retail cept it has 7ns Hyundai SDRAM... and it is overclocked b4 you even open the box. Any site selling the OEM P2 MX doesn't mention this discrepancy... sounds to me either Herc/Guillemot failed to inform these distributors, or the distributors knew this and failed to mention it, or both. Anyway you look at it an all around rip-off.

 

[Spoooon]

That was the same deal with the VisionTek boards. They shipped with 7ns ram. However, VisionTek is letting people get replacements with 6ns ram. I got my new board the other day.

 

[Orbius]

What a scam, all the review boards they send out use the 5.5ns Ram. They know people are going to run out and try to buy OEM models expecting to get the same card.

 

[Killrose]

I am wary of any OEM item, we all know that OEM leaves to much to be desired. Thats why we build our own Boxes!!!

 

[RacerX]

Well I got my Prophet MX for ucdweb.com this afternoon. Good news/Bad news. The bad part is that it did indeed come with 7ns ram ...the good part is that this ram still rocks! I cranked the slider for the ram all the way to the max (which is 210mhz) and expected a lockup. Was pleasantly surprised to see desktop was fine. Now for the 3d tests ...hit it with a barrage of stuff (UT, Q3A, 3dMark, MDK2, Unreal flyby) and not an artifact to be found. This 7ns ram (on my card anyways) really screams ...might go even higher than 210 if I tried Powerstrip.
I had planned on returning it and going retail but this is fast enough for $119 ...I'm glad I read the thread in the HardOCP forums about the other guy who had success with the 7ns ram or else I would have never tried it. I had a Inno3d MX with 6ns ram that wouldn't clock nearly as high as this one.

 

[Spoooon]

My old VisionTek board came with 7ns RAM. I did overclock it to 205 and left it like that for about 5 day. It worked fine. Then all kinds of graphical glitches started happening. Basically, even though it worked fine at 205 for awhile, the higher frequency seemed to cause some permanent damage. Just a friendly warning.

 

[RacerX]

well thanks for the concern but I am not worried. Zero artifacts and the card is running with both sliders maxed ... 220/210
I threw a gamma on the blue heatsink and the card is flying now. Example scores: 3dmark default bench - 4700 , Unreal Castle Flyby 74fps at 1024. Sorry about poor quality pic ..trying to keep it small and had a few too many tonight suffering through Patriots loss

<img src=&quot;http://people.ne.mediaone.net/racerx3/HercMX2.jpg&quot;>

 

[RonL]

About a week and a half ago I pointed out to Micropro that they were advertising the Hercules Prophet II MX video card with the memory clock of 183 MHz and shipping the 166MHz version. At the time (I haven't checked their site lately) they were not indicating that it was an OEM or &quot;white box&quot; either. As for the 7ns RAM on the card I had, It would lock up on the screen saver after several hours (No fan, but the case was off). So your mileage may vary on the overclocking aspects of your individual card (but you knew that). I just picked up a retail version (5.5ns) of the Prophet II MX and everything is fine at 200MHz core and 210MHz Memory clocks.

 

[BlvdKing]

I have a Prophet 2 MX with 7ns ram at 210/200 memory/core with no artifacts, lockups, etc. I was going to return it until I saw that it overclocks well. I had the core at 210 as well but I got no increase in fps in Q3A at 1024*768 max so I lowered the core clock to limit heat dissipation.