I say job 1 for the criminal justice system is rehabilitation, not punishment. But this is taking it a little far. He should do more time than 60 days. But I'm not a judge. Obviously he's seen things that I haven't. And people saring that this is more significant because it's in Vermont should end themselves. I'm tired of dealing with you guys.
what is the difference when any priest goes out rapes little boys. Over and Over again and again. I guess it's just they have tons of cash to keep them quiet. Don't know I can't see anyone getting less the 5 years for this type of stunt be it religious or a demented Joe off of the street...
How about considering the case of this child rapist?
Strom Thurmond's family confirms paternity claim
An attorney for the family of former U.S. Sen. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina confirmed Monday that in 1925, when he was 22, Thurmond fathered a child with a black teenage housekeeper.
Thurmond, the longest-serving senator in U.S. history, died in June at age 100. His daughter's story was published Sunday by The Washington Post.
According to the Post report, Washington-Williams' mother, Carrie Butler, worked as a maid at the Thurmond family home in Edgefield, South Carolina.
At the time the girl was born in 1925, Butler was 16 and Thurmond was 22, unmarried and living in his parents' home
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/15/thurmond..paternity/
We had a case of a child rapist, who went on to become the longest serving Senator in U.S. history, yet he was never investigated or prosecuted.
Strom Thurmond's family confirms paternity claim
An attorney for the family of former U.S. Sen. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina confirmed Monday that in 1925, when he was 22, Thurmond fathered a child with a black teenage housekeeper.
Thurmond, the longest-serving senator in U.S. history, died in June at age 100. His daughter's story was published Sunday by The Washington Post.
According to the Post report, Washington-Williams' mother, Carrie Butler, worked as a maid at the Thurmond family home in Edgefield, South Carolina.
At the time the girl was born in 1925, Butler was 16 and Thurmond was 22, unmarried and living in his parents' home
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/15/thurmond..paternity/
We had a case of a child rapist, who went on to become the longest serving Senator in U.S. history, yet he was never investigated or prosecuted.
This case is disturbing, makes you wonder what he would set as punishment if somebody repeatedly raped his daughter or grand daughter.
Love to see that hypocrit in action with the sentence then.
Love to see that hypocrit in action with the sentence then.
Sphexi
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Welcome to Vermont, one of the most backwards states in the country. We routinely have people shoot themselves in the foot (metaphorically of course) in order to either make a point, or to get back at someone else (or a group). We have judges who have absolutely no clue what's going on, and use their positions as personal soapboxes to broadcast their personal beliefs, completely ignoring the actual letter of the law and the will of the people. In Cashman's case, he knew the guy beforehand, which IMO means he shouldn't have even been trying the case at all.
On a local level, I know MANY people who are royally pissed off about this. Not so much at Cashman himself, but that he only gave out a 60 day term, and it's in 4Cs (Chittenden County Correctional Center), which is a temporary holding facility. There's people there for overnights, and some who have been there for months awaiting transfers to other facilities. It's a very easy to live in prison, not somewhere that anybody would worry about spending 60 days in.
The general feeling here is that he needs to get severely beaten, several times, while in 4Cs, and that there's going to be people waiting for him to get out. Whether or not anything actually happens to him is doubtful, people are always more full of talk than they are action, but at this point I can say that nobody would be crying if he simply up and disappeared.
Cement shoes into the lake FTW.
On a local level, I know MANY people who are royally pissed off about this. Not so much at Cashman himself, but that he only gave out a 60 day term, and it's in 4Cs (Chittenden County Correctional Center), which is a temporary holding facility. There's people there for overnights, and some who have been there for months awaiting transfers to other facilities. It's a very easy to live in prison, not somewhere that anybody would worry about spending 60 days in.
The general feeling here is that he needs to get severely beaten, several times, while in 4Cs, and that there's going to be people waiting for him to get out. Whether or not anything actually happens to him is doubtful, people are always more full of talk than they are action, but at this point I can say that nobody would be crying if he simply up and disappeared.
Cement shoes into the lake FTW.
I am curious if the girl was raped or if she participated willingly. If the former then by all means hang him but if the latter than there should not be a punishment , just treatment.
Don Vito Corleone
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right, I didn't say consented because that is a legal term which she could not have done. She could have participated willingly though. I don't know enough about the case to have an opinion about it.
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Whoozyerdaddy
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What seven year old willingly participates in a sexual activity with an adult? I don't see how you can even consider trying to rationalize the actions of this man much less suggest that he doesn't deserve to rot in a PMITA prison for the next few decades.
There is no justification for what this man did and 60 days is just unfathomable to me.
Don Vito Corleone
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No, it falls under ACTUAL rape. I am not licensed in Vermont, but most jurisdictions consider any sex act with a small child to be rape.
I do not, for example, consider consensual sex between an 18-year-old and a 15-year-old to be rape. I do, though, consider any sex involving a 7-year-old to be rape.
im pretty sure rape, by definition, requires that one not be "willing."
besides which, we have laws that set an age restriction and while im sure we could sit around and argue consent between a 17 year old and an 18 year old in a sexual relationship, a 7 year old is pretty well-precedented as being considered illegal.
I'm just saying, times have changed. Fifty years ago a young man from a powerful family could commit rape and get away with it. Nowadays that is unlikely unless you are a good looking female school teacher.
Still, it bothers me this racist asshole was never called to account for this.
Zebo
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Well he's right. Prison is simply a crimminal finishing school the way it's set up these days. When he gets out of 8 years in max he'll be proficient in murder, grand theft, extorsion, street pharmautical manufacture.. etc- in addition to rape. the cops or father should have just shot him like in the old days. I know I would have.
techs
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Sorry but you really need to see the REAL story about this case which I just posted here:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1778853&enterthread=y
Topic Title: The most misunderstand 60 day sentence for child rape and the judge who gave it.
Topic Summary: I say the judge is a hero. A big time hero. And Bill O'Reilly is an idiot.
Many people have mosted incorrect things about this case. Check out the real truth.
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1778853&enterthread=y
Topic Title: The most misunderstand 60 day sentence for child rape and the judge who gave it.
Topic Summary: I say the judge is a hero. A big time hero. And Bill O'Reilly is an idiot.
Many people have mosted incorrect things about this case. Check out the real truth.
IronWing
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Too late, the spin is in, the damage done, time to move on. The media attention cycle has peddled away. Look away, look away. The story had Vermont (by media definition "liberal") and "wacko judge" playing at the same time as the Alito hearings. The story has served its purpose, nothing more to discuss, water under the bridge.
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