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VR-Zone: AMD Radeon HD 6850/6870 Prices rise on inconsistent availability

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The huge price drops seen with Nvidia products may, and I emphasize MAY, indicate Nvidia products just aren't moving out quickly enough to keep inventories at levels the retailers want sitting around while AMD products and their inventory levels are in short supply.

Just supply and demand in action.

Thank you for that post. I quote it in part because we would think that the S/D stuff was something obvious. I have an issue with the thread title (and I just assume vr-zone put it up to be contentious) because "inconsistent availability" is not why prices have risen.

Prices have risen because the cards have sold well. Because the cards have sold well, one might find it difficult to always see large amounts of cards on the shelves. It's cause and effect in that way.
 
Thank you for that post. I quote it in part because we would think that the S/D stuff was something obvious. I have an issue with the thread title (and I just assume vr-zone put it up to be contentious) because "inconsistent availability" is not why prices have risen.

Prices have risen because the cards have sold well. Because the cards have sold well, one might find it difficult to always see large amounts of cards on the shelves. It's cause and effect in that way.

Sure, if you want to only observe the "every cloud has a silver lining" aspect of the situation. Ususally the biggest reason for a price hike is when demand outstrips supply. Maybe they are selling well. Maybe there just aren't any to sell?
 
Sure, if you want to only observe the "every cloud has a silver lining" aspect of the situation. Ususally the biggest reason for a price hike is when demand outstrips supply. Maybe they are selling well. Maybe there just aren't any to sell?

Do you have a hard time finding 6850s and 6870s? I don't, and my searches have included shops in: Canada, USA, Germany and the UK. So, the implication that I'm using some unfounded optimism to support my claim that there are cards to sell and they are selling well, is simply false.

There is no maybe, with respect to the sales of those cards. Having said that, note that I'm not making some 'this was a huge win of a launch!' claim, so your undermining of a positive aspect of the 68XX series is both futile and unnecessary (and counter-productive, as you will see later in this post).

Perhaps AMD's 68XX are not at an ideal intersection of supply and demand (where excess supply costs them money, retailers have to start offering rebates and incentives, packaging games and so on-like another company has had to do with its products), but it's just clear that there is a supply of the products, and that the demand for those products enables suppliers to raise the prices. It's that simple.

I think 'suffering from excess demand' would have been easily applied to the 5970 part a while ago, where people actually were interested in buying the part even at that lofty price, and one had great difficulty finding a part anywhere. This is clearly not the same with the 68XXs, so 'suffering' is misleading because it is false, and perversely I get an infraction (oddly) for being absolutely right in calling someone out on his (admitted- it's written on the forums so referring to someone's explicit post is NOT A MEMBER CALLOUT) agenda. Having 'feelings' that cards are unreliable is not scientific, nor should those 'feelings' support an inference from emotion to fact.

This analysis isn't silver lining, take a look at the supply of the 68XX series and tell me it's difficult to find one and the ones that are left are at really high prices. Please.

Lots of retailers jacked up the price of the GTX580 as well, should I write and publish an article that says Nvidia is SUFFERING from excess demand? Or should Nvidia rather be happy that their card is selling well? Come on. This is exactly why people who claim this forum is AMD dominated are talking rubbish. The very same logic that Nvidia fans use to diminish accomplishments from AMD could easily be applied to Nvidia too, but they aren't (as I'm doing right here). And Nvidia fans don't see that, in my post, is a comment that is directly compatible and complimentary to Nvidia's flagship card. If you're looking for a fanboy, look elsewhere.
 
No way of knowing who's selling what, this quickly after launch. A shortage does seem to indicate that amd could have produced and sold more cards - but they probably can't afford a big inventory.

Forget all that supply/demand stuff:

I just bought one - so prices will be down within 8-10days.
 
I'm glad I picked up my HD6870 at MSRP, and then my second and third at MSRP - 10% during that Newegg sale. Still had to pay $8 shipping on each one though. Oh well.

Haven't installed them yet, going to build a HD6870 CF rig for my BIL.

BTW, can you do triple CF with these cards, or just dual? I think my X48 board has three PCI-E x16 slots, with the last being just x4 electrical. I wonder if that is enough bandwidth for a third card, or whether it would just be a waste.

Only 2 video card setup, each card only has 1 crossfire bridge.
 
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