VPN Newbie and I have some issues with this

DeadSeaSquirrels

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I VPNed to my friends computer, the protocols I allowed were TCP/IP and NetBEUI, I allowed file sharing, and there was one more thing that I can't remember. But my question is whether I can VPN to my friends machine, and also use the internet. Because once I am in a VPN session it boots me off the internet.

I tried ipconfig, and saw both IP address, one was under my ethernet adapter and the other was under something called PPP or something like that. That led me to believe that that meant I could do both simultaneously. Can somebody explain this detail of VPN to me. It is a real hassle not to be able to use the internet when I am VPNed.

Another question related to networking. I am behind a Linksys 4-port router. The router has one static IP, and I have one static IP. Therefore I do not show up in the routers DHCP table. Everything works fine. But I was wondering if somebody could explain some of the details of networking, and why I can't ping my router from the computer that has a static IP. Another note is that I have to set the gateway of the machine with the static IP to the router LAN IP (192.168.1.1), that may be causing my ping troubles, but can somebody explain the details of why? Thanks:cool:
 

IgorTs

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ok, Can you give more details:
1.What is your friend using? Same hardware? Same IP range?
2. Were you trying to ping your router from Internet or from local comp?

1. If you have the same ip range(locally) one of you have to change it, otherwise computers will not know where, on which subnet to look for each other or create IP conflict ( same IP on the same segment). 192.168.168.x and 192.168.1.0 will work.
2, If you tryed to ping your router from outside and not able to do so check setting on it in advanced/filters you'll see block WAN request or ping denial in simple English, unmark and apply. also IPSec Pass Through and PPTP Pass Through should be enabled.
You don't realy need NetBEUI, you can access remote computer by it's local IP. otherwise make sure they are member of the same work group. better use hosts file (do a file search on your comp) and modify it with remote computer IP and name.
 

DeadSeaSquirrels

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I am trying to VPN into a computer outside of my own LAN. And my ping issue with the router is internal. I have 2 static IPs from my ISP. I took one static one and gave the other one to the router. I have my gateway set as my router address, and my problem is that I can't ping my router.
 

IgorTs

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Surely you do VPN to remote network. No debt about it. But after you made a connection it became part of your local network. Two networks secure connected, that?s a purpose of VPN, right?
I believe your IP assignment is not correct.
You mentioned that you got 2 IP from ISP. Let?s say 66.121.150.120 and 66.121.150.121. You assigned 66.121.150.120 to gateway/router. On your computer you can?t use 66.121.150.121. You have to use a private IP range from page 1 on your router, default is 192.168.x.x, and set IP of your router as a gateway(you've done that part right). Router has firewall build in, that?s why it may prohibit the ping. Try it. or use DHCP from a router. Also that router has a DMZ. If you want to access your computer from outside you need to place IP of your comp there and apply. in such case use static IP, not DHCP and remember that it less secure than.
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aug1516

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Go into the TCP/IP properties for the VPN connection and uncheck the box called "Use default gateway on remote network". This will allow you to use your internet connection normally and it will the VPN when connecting to your friends PC. This may lessen security though, I'm not sure on that.
 

DeadSeaSquirrels

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Aug1516, yeah what you told me worked. My friend suggested that too right before you did. Thanks though.

As for being able to set my IP to the second static IP given to me by my ISP. I can do that because I have it set up like that right now. I don't necessarily have to use 198.162.1.x (2<x<255), it works with any valid IP. I guess I should have worded the question a little better though.

I have my computer with a static IP, and the default gateway is 198.162.1.1 which is the router. It's not that I can't ping it, which i can't (but that is because I configured the router that way), it is that I can't administer it from my computer, like go to my IE and type in the router and change stuff. I can get to the router from other computers on the network using the DHCP, but I can't get to it from my computer using the static IP. That is my real problem. Thanks if anybody can explain that, because I don't think it is a bug, I just want to understand why.
 

IgorTs

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Yes, it's not a bug, it's a feature. I already told you'. it's a firewall rule. If you using your external static ip and still want to manage the router make some changes on it: add static route and/or enable remote management in the router.
<I can do that because I have it set up like that right now> it does not mean that it's correct setting. If you're really want to use that second IP, place a switch/hub before Linksys router and plug your computer directly there, don't forget to change gateway.