Voting Rights Act EOL. Game Over.

[cytg111]

So this is on the chopping block

Democrats Have One Brutal Path to Survival if the Supreme Court Kills the Voting Rights Act

Congress could become even less diverse, as racial minorities in blue states would have fewer opportunities to elect the representatives of their choice.

slate.com

It's lights out brown people and an automatic +19 swing to R.

Are they gonna do it?

OF COURSE THEY ARE.

There is a reason it's called prj2025 .. cause it's all going down in 2025.

You are objectively a much much more corrupt place than Ukraine was even years ago. Way to go America.

 

[cytg111]

Part of me thinks this is the ploy to snuff power from the people before the advent of AI and fusion power, a world where they dont really need us part of the equation no more.

Idiots like Musk talking about UBI. Think again, it's the other way around.

 

[HomerJS]

This would put the final nail on the assertion that this is a racist country.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

So this is on the chopping block

Democrats Have One Brutal Path to Survival if the Supreme Court Kills the Voting Rights Act

Congress could become even less diverse, as racial minorities in blue states would have fewer opportunities to elect the representatives of their choice.

slate.com

It's lights out brown people and an automatic +19 swing to R.

Are they gonna do it?

OF COURSE THEY ARE.

There is a reason it's called prj2025 .. cause it's all going down in 2025.

You are objectively a much much more corrupt place than Ukraine was even years ago. Way to go America.

-Alright, when R's break it they're gonna have to buy it.

These people are too idea logically driven by grievance to know how to actually solve issues when they're in charge.

 

[nakedfrog]

There is a reason it's called prj2025 .. cause it's all going down in 2025.

The reason it's called Project 2025 is that would be the year that Trump took office if he won the election.

-Alright, when R's break it they're gonna have to buy it.

These people are too idea logically driven by grievance to know how to actually solve issues when they're in charge.

They don't want to solve issues, they just want power, prestige, and money. In the spirit of FYGMism they don't care what happens after they're gone.

 

[Indus]

Even more reason to divide the country up forever.

What's the point of laws when they clearly don't obey them and calvinball em.

For a country to exist under the rule of laws.. the laws have to respected and obeyed!

If they're not.. there's no point to having the country!

 

[gothuevos]

So this is on the chopping block

Democrats Have One Brutal Path to Survival if the Supreme Court Kills the Voting Rights Act

Congress could become even less diverse, as racial minorities in blue states would have fewer opportunities to elect the representatives of their choice.

slate.com

It's lights out brown people and an automatic +19 swing to R.

Are they gonna do it?

OF COURSE THEY ARE.

There is a reason it's called prj2025 .. cause it's all going down in 2025.

You are objectively a much much more corrupt place than Ukraine was even years ago. Way to go America.

I think it's closer to 27 seats including the net effect of redistricting.

Steve Bannon went on Bill Maher's show (LOL) back in like 2017-2018 and made this exact prediction to his face.

 

[Brainonska511]

Even more reason to divide the country up forever.

What's the point of laws when they clearly don't obey them and calvinball em.

For a country to exist under the rule of laws.. the laws have to respected and obeyed!

If they're not.. there's no point to having the country!

No matter how much you say it, national divorce is never going to happen in a way that could ever be easy and not result in mass suffering and violence. And it's pretty gross to be calling for it when you live in NYC and think these things won't happen to you.

 

[nakedfrog]

View attachment 132193

No matter how much you say it, national divorce is never going to happen in a way that could ever be easy and not result in mass suffering and violence. And it's pretty gross to be calling for it when you live in NYC and think these things won't happen to you.

Well, you are talking to someone who has consistently called for mass violence (but I'm pretty sure doesn't want to actually participate in it personally, which sure makes it easier to call for).

 

[cytg111]

And now also the IRS.

National divorce? Forget about it, why would they give up that power?

 

[HomerJS]

Democratic Governers need to ratchet up the divorce. Trump says gang affiliation and race are probable cause for arrest so here is what they should do.

Use their National Guard and start snatching Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, 3%ers and any other white nationalist group members off the streets and send to undisclosed locations. There is even more of a rationale for it because those groups actually kill people.

 

[Brainonska511]

Use their National Guard and start snatching Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, 3%ers and any other white nationalist group members off the streets and send to undisclosed locations.

You don't have to do illegal things. Pretty much every state has laws on the books that make paramilitary groups (colloquially called "militias" even though they aren't under civilian government control) illegal. Just enforce those laws on these clowns.

Democratic Governers need to ratchet up the divorce.

There are things you can only do once, and states are not red or blue. They are all filled with Americans of varying political alignments. In an asymmetric environment, why would you give Trump and Miller ammunition to invoke the insurrection act? Instead, the approach to take is likely going to be through moral rhetoric and getting masses of people to turn out.

 

[HomerJS]

You don't have to do illegal things. Pretty much every state has laws on the books that make paramilitary groups (colloquially called "militias" even though they aren't under civilian government control) illegal. Just enforce those laws on these clowns.



There are things you can only do once, and states are not red or blue. They are all filled with Americans of varying political alignments. In an asymmetric environment, why would you give Trump and Miller ammunition to invoke the insurrection act? Instead, the approach to take is likely going to be through moral rhetoric and getting masses of people to turn out.

Wouldn't be illegal. SCOTUS has given permission to do it. I'm saying Democrats need to start participating.

 

[Brainonska511]

Wouldn't be illegal. SCOTUS has given permission to do it. I'm saying Democrats need to start participating.

Why cede the moral high ground by doing things illegally when you can already use laws on the books to legally crack down on paramilitary groups?

 

[HomerJS]

Why cede the moral high ground by doing things illegally when you can already use laws on the books to legally crack down on paramilitary groups?

Once again SCOTUS has stated it is not illegal. Now you would just go after white people. They wouldn't be able to object because you can just point the finger back at DHS and ICE.

Let's say we just disagree. I want to start fighting back.

 

[Brainonska511]

Once again SCOTUS has stated it is not illegal. Now you would just go after white people. They wouldn't be able to object because you can just point the finger back at DHS and ICE.

Let's say we just disagree. I want to start fighting back.

No, SCOTUS has played a game of Republicans can do stuff that is illegal and Democrats can't. If you think SCOTUS wouldn't stop democratic governors from doing what the president is doing, then I have a bridge to sell you.

And there is pushback for those with eyes to see. It also takes time for opinions and actions to percolate. A violent pushback isn't good though and gives Miller and team exactly what they want. And the Federal government is doing itself no favors when they are "accidentally" gasing local police and showing itself violently reacting to innocuous protest. This is a battle for perception.

 

[HomerJS]

No, SCOTUS has played a game of Republicans can do stuff that is illegal and Democrats can't. If you think SCOTUS wouldn't stop democratic governors from doing what the president is doing, then I have a bridge to sell you.

And there is pushback for those with eyes to see. It also takes time for opinions and actions to percolate. A violent pushback isn't good though and gives Miller and team exactly what they want. And the Federal government is doing itself no favors when they are "accidentally" gasing local police and showing itself violently reacting to innocuous protest. This is a battle for perception.

Let SCOTUS do it. Make them choke on their own hypocrisy. That would be the reason for doing it.

SCOTUS has said it is legal. Don't misunderstand me I think it is wrong. I also think retaliation is necessary to make a point. Kinda like Gavin Newsome mocking Trump my mimicking him. It was funny watching the Fox News hosts face contort while quoting Newsome.

We need to punch back against authoritarianism. We are getting rolled right in front of our faces. The frog is already boiling. How many frogs need to die?

 

[Brainonska511]

Let SCOTUS do it. Make them choke on their own hypocrisy. That would be the reason for doing it.

SCOTUS has said it is legal. Don't misunderstand me I think it is wrong. I also think retaliation is necessary to make a point. Kinda like Gavin Newsome mocking Trump my mimicking him. It was funny watching the Fox News hosts face contort while quoting Newsome.

We need to punch back against authoritarianism. We are getting rolled right in front of our faces. The frog is already boiling. How many frogs need to die?

Claiming the president and SCOTUS are being lawless and then acting lawlessly yourself is just hypocrisy and is just unnecessarily ceding the optimal fighting ground.

 

[HomerJS]

Claiming the president and SCOTUS are being lawless and then acting lawlessly yourself is just hypocrisy and is just unnecessarily ceding the optimal fighting ground.

I understand what you are saying. When Michele Obama promoted "when they go low, we go high". It was nice in theory, but it has gone the way of Chuck Schumer's strongly worded letters.

If you were in a boxing match where 10oz gloves are required but your opponent is shaving 3-4 ounces out you have 3 choices. Fight anyway and get seriously injured. Don't fight. Or shave the same 3-4 from your gloves and let the best man win.

 

[UNCjigga]

An alternative for Democrats—stop messaging on race, and start messaging on the fact that handfuls of rural voters and landowners will be suppressing the urban vote. Why should empty land enjoy more representation in Congress than the cities that power our economy?

File lawsuits against every state that diverts electoral resources away from cities. If cities have more people and more eligible voters, it stands to reason that they should have more polling precincts and locations and improved access to ballots.

 

[Jaskalas]

Even more reason to divide the country up forever.

There you go again. Someone says we could divide.
Do you imagine it would be peaceful to split? No.
Do you imagine MAGA Nazis would make peaceful neighbors? No.

The only path forward is military conquest over them.

 

[Brainonska511]

I understand what you are saying. When Michele Obama promoted "when they go low, we go high". It was nice in theory, but it has gone the way of Chuck Schumer's strongly worded letters.

If you were in a boxing match where 10oz gloves are required but your opponent is shaving 3-4 ounces out you have 3 choices. Fight anyway and get seriously injured. Don't fight. Or shave the same 3-4 from your gloves and let the best man win.

You can go on the offensive without ignoring the skullduggery the other side is using and without resorting to illegal things.

Violence is the last line, not the first line, and it is a card you basically can only play once.

As for Schumer, he seems to be holding the caucus together quite well during the shutdown, and he's got an additional 6 months of souring (on Trump) public opinion to back up his position. I wish there was a different one in charge, but here we are. Play with the cards you're dealt.

 

[Indus]

There you go again. Someone says we could divide.
Do you imagine it would be peaceful to split? No.
Do you imagine MAGA Nazis would make peaceful neighbors? No.

The only path forward is military conquest over them.

How about today then rather than tomorrow when we're all older and can't run.

 

[Jaskalas]

How about today then rather than tomorrow when we're all older and can't run.

In all likelihood, we'll be the ones conquered.

It takes time to build a rebellion. For oppression to get so horrible that people realize what they must do.
Fastest way to speed this up, is to get Governors to stand up for the people they are sworn to protect.

 

[Indus]

In all likelihood, we'll be the ones conquered.

It takes time to build a rebellion. For oppression to get so horrible that people realize what they must do.
Fastest way to speed this up, is to get Governors to stand up for the people they are sworn to protect.

That ain't Kathy Hochul!