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Voting - an e-mail from my father-in-law regarding his experience at the polls

MrsBugi

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"Well, I tried to take my youngest son Peter and his girl-friend Rachel to vote early today.
We drove to the nearest poll, and were told that the wait was 90 minutes. We drove to another poll, and were told no one knew how long the wait was, but that one hour was the going estimate. The kids bailed. Later, I drove back to the second poll, and voted a straight Democratic ticket. I arrived at 5:30 pm, and finished by 7:10 pm. It took 100 minutes.

Why? Well, voters worried about e-fraud insisted upon paper ballots, and bureaucrats insisted upon machines. Voters had to fill out long paper ballots with ball-point pens, being sure to keep the ink inside the tiny ovals. Then we had to insert our paper ballots into the machines, which checked for obedience to the rigid instructions and either kept the ballot or spat it out. (A few days ago, one of these machines rejected Gary Herling's ballot. ) On Tuesday, other machines will count the votes on these ballots and on the new ballots filled out that day. That's the plan.

The ballot itself was overly complex; the instructions ran to 36 big pages. There was a different ballot for each precinct. While I was in line, the computers that select the proper ballot for a person living at a given address "went down." Some of us had state voting cards with our precinct numbers, and the poll operators were able to find our ballots without the using city's computers. I had my card.

This absurdly dysfunctional system will exasperate many voters, and the length of the lines will prevent many people from voting. Of course, people with miserable jobs will have the least time and energy to vote. Thus, Democrats will be disenfranchised more than Republicans.

How did this happen? Why didn't states adopt simple, old-fashioned paper ballots on which one could write a simple X in pencil over a box to indicate one's choice? I once used such a system in Massachusetts. No wait. No time. Bingo, it's over.

Once the law required both paper and machines, it was only necessary to have a shortage of machines to make the lines so long as to disenfranchise the working poor. The makers of the machines either could have charged so much per machine that cities bought too few.

Or they could have made too few and then accepted payment from the Republican party for the profit they lost by making too few. (This is not unlikely in a campaign in which $3 billion was spent on advertising.)

Of course, it could have been just human stupidity. That's always the most likely reason.

In any event, I now predict that because of these absurdly long lines, the Republicans will hold onto both the House and the Senate."

I will be going to vote later today.

How was your voting experience?


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There is already a thread on the voting. Stickied at the top

There are threads on how the election will be stolen, legally or illegally.

Anandtech Moderator
 
Of course, people with miserable jobs will have the least time and energy to vote. Thus, Democrats will be disenfranchised more than Republicans.
Welfare recipients are more likely to have more time to vote, thus disenfranchising Republicans.

edit: lol @ accidental necro - was trying to find Bugi/Guyver dispute original thread
Oh well... this thread deserves some reply, even if it is 5 years later. 🙂
 
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Wow, some states let you vote at multiple locations? My state gives me my polling place based on where I live.

Can anyone confirm this is true, there are states that allow you to randomly pick where you want to vote?
 
Wow, some states let you vote at multiple locations? My state gives me my polling place based on where I live.

Can anyone confirm this is true, there are states that allow you to randomly pick where you want to vote?

Not any state that I've lived in. It would be absurd to allow it - how would you verify if someone has voted or not?
 
Funny, it's still a relevant topic given that since the OP, the biggest effort to suppress voting in decades has been underway by Republicans, coordinating nationally.
 
"Well, I tried to take my youngest son Peter and his girl-friend Rachel to vote early today.
We drove to the nearest poll, and were told that the wait was 90 minutes. We drove to another poll, and were told no one knew how long the wait was, but that one hour was the going estimate. The kids bailed. Later, I drove back to the second poll, and voted a straight Democratic ticket. I arrived at 5:30 pm, and finished by 7:10 pm. It took 100 minutes.

Why? Well, voters worried about e-fraud insisted upon paper ballots, and bureaucrats insisted upon machines. Voters had to fill out long paper ballots with ball-point pens, being sure to keep the ink inside the tiny ovals. Then we had to insert our paper ballots into the machines, which checked for obedience to the rigid instructions and either kept the ballot or spat it out. (A few days ago, one of these machines rejected Gary Herling's ballot. ) On Tuesday, other machines will count the votes on these ballots and on the new ballots filled out that day. That's the plan.

The ballot itself was overly complex; the instructions ran to 36 big pages. There was a different ballot for each precinct. While I was in line, the computers that select the proper ballot for a person living at a given address "went down." Some of us had state voting cards with our precinct numbers, and the poll operators were able to find our ballots without the using city's computers. I had my card.

This absurdly dysfunctional system will exasperate many voters, and the length of the lines will prevent many people from voting. Of course, people with miserable jobs will have the least time and energy to vote. Thus, Democrats will be disenfranchised more than Republicans.

How did this happen? Why didn't states adopt simple, old-fashioned paper ballots on which one could write a simple X in pencil over a box to indicate one's choice? I once used such a system in Massachusetts. No wait. No time. Bingo, it's over.

Once the law required both paper and machines, it was only necessary to have a shortage of machines to make the lines so long as to disenfranchise the working poor. The makers of the machines either could have charged so much per machine that cities bought too few.

Or they could have made too few and then accepted payment from the Republican party for the profit they lost by making too few. (This is not unlikely in a campaign in which $3 billion was spent on advertising.)

Of course, it could have been just human stupidity. That's always the most likely reason.

In any event, I now predict that because of these absurdly long lines, the Republicans will hold onto both the House and the Senate."

I will be going to vote later today.

How was your voting experience?


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There is already a thread on the voting. Stickied at the top

There are threads on how the election will be stolen, legally or illegally.

Anandtech Moderator

I know this is a necro thread, but I just wanted to point out the bolded.
Stating he voted, and will be going to vote again.
 
I know this is a necro thread, but I just wanted to point out the bolded.
Stating he voted, and will be going to vote again.

He stated they went to two places, waits were long, the kids bailed, so he went back to the 2nd place and waited to vote a 1st time.


And I must say, "Holy necro thread Batman!."
 
LOL at us all. Someone posts something fairly inane, and five years later a spirited debate breaks out. That's political junkies!
 
Here in Denver, I can vote at any polling place, and electronic communications/ central database insure that I'll only vote once.

I vote by absentee ballot most elections, and everybody in Oregon votes by mail w/ one of the highest turnouts in the nation.

Repubs hate it, of course, along with early voting, automatic registration, anything that might dilute the power of their diehard base. You don't need a real majority to win elections, just a majority of the votes cast, so shaping that increases one's chances of winning.
 
He stated they went to two places, waits were long, the kids bailed, so he went back to the 2nd place and waited to vote a 1st time.


And I must say, "Holy necro thread Batman!."

Nvm. I see where my reading comprehension failed. I didn't notice a quote... The "I will be going to vote later" was from the OP not the email.
 
I have been voting for years and I never had any problems and I am a minority (shocking eh?).

On voting day, I would come by my precint (you can not go to another precint to vote), show my ID (it is a requirement) such as driver license, the clerks (at least two) check my ID and then one of them (with the ID) call out loud my name and the other clerk write my name down in the log book and then I sign it.

I would then come to the booth that was setting up and ready, pull the curtain, vote and the the level. Done. Five minutes at most.

I don't see why other minorities whine and bitch about "disenfranchise", "racists", "whities keeping us down and now allow us to vote" and on and on.

Get a damn ID, get educate about the issues instead of let the clergy folks telling you what/who to vote for.
 
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