If the government wasn't involved then it wouldn't have happened
There was no free market, if there was then it wouldn't have happened
If the government wasn't involved then it wouldn't have happened
There was no free market, if there was then it wouldn't have happened
Oakenfold
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Originally Posted by dmcowen674
No surprise
A lot of older Democrats have died off since 2008
Rich Religious Republicans are taking over as evidenced by elimination of science, evolution and anything that requires critical thinking.
Links proof of Republicans balancing a budget
Links proof of Dems being kicked out
Reagan (historically), nothing will pass the Senate (current-you know this), November 2012!
Okay I'll bite. Can you show me one thing where the government is more profitable than a private sector business?
My belief isn't based on faith, it's based on knowledge. Do you work in a career that is impacted by regulations on the bottom line?
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Look, I am a liberal who used to think like you but got cursed by his Mom because he believed her when she told him to be honest. I had to do what my Mom told me to do, but it was obvious right off the bat it was going to cause her and everybody else on earth to hate me. So too here now, and even though I don't want to, I have to confess that I do hate your guts, more than I can even yet imagine, because I am honest and in psychotherapy to repair all the wounds being honest caused me, I learned that I hate myself. Now the simple fact is that when you know the truth about yourself, that you have this awful self hate, the fact is that it means you hate everybody. So even though my hate for you is vastly less than your hate for me, because, unlike you I don't believe my own bull shit, the curse of honesty, again you see, that where I am still feeling unconscious thoughts my honesty hasn't yet shown me, I must by the laws of the mind feel hate.
But this is liberal thinking. As a conservative I actually love you a lot. You are a deaf dumb blind human being through no fault of your own. There just aren't enough Mom's like the one I had to go around. You have to be really really stupid to tell a child to be honest, or hate him enough to want him dead.
So from a normal wording of the expression, I don't hate you, it is quite true. I got pancaked by a steamroller as a child and all the pride and egotistically fat-heqdedness that conservatives hate with just got smashed out of me. Any hate that I could ever feel was futility and uselessness itself.
No I just feel sorry for you that you got stuck with a big fat egotistically disgusting head and my honesty reduced my ego to rubble. But I'm still good friends with the steamroller what done it and I'll help you where I can.
And it ain't me calling you a moron about what you believe about taxes or anything else. I told you you only look like a moron to people who can reason. You can't reason but it's not your fault. You were never made to be honest and didn't have my Mom. You were taught that lying is the proper thing, that all you had to do was lie to yourself that you are moral. That wasn't allowed in my house. In my house I was taught that God know every sinful thing I thought so naturally, instead of joining his team by lying I just up and killed Him. I knew I was a fucking worthless bastard because of that cursed honesty. I didn't need any fucking help.
jackstar7
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Haven't several large telecom companies protested and shut down publicly owned and managed internet providers, specifically because they could operate more efficiently than the large corps?
I sure as hell would prefer the BEST service available, but lobbyists got their way and several cities lost out before the trend could take hold.
Heh. Without govt, markets as we know them simply wouldn't exist. The very existence of money, of banks, of enforceable contracts, of weights & measures are the result of govt.
The worst financial panics & depressions have occurred when govt involvement was least, and particularly when central banks didn't exist or did the wrong things-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States
3chordcharlie
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LOL.
Government should have saved us from ourselves.
In conclusion: get rid of the government.
It's rarely more "profitable" because "profits" from government services would be more correctly labelled taxation or fees and very often eliminated as such because it's philosophically undesirable. Also, publicly-run utilities are usually constrained by additional conditions private industry isn't, for example laws requiring the postal service to deliver to unprofitable locations, not set its own business hours, and not sell any additional goods or services, or the requirement on schools that every child be given an opportunity for a quality education. Amtrac is very profitable along certain lines, but they also serve a goal of connecting freight centers along less profitable areas (for their limited perspective) and that sinks the overall profitability, while increasing the economic value of the areas served.
The most obvious examples of governments having economies of scale are those core functions that no one but the fringiest of libertarians will tell you should be in private hands because they serve a broader public good than those using them day-to-day - law enforcement / the justice system; roads; food and drug safety; providing a minimum, reasonably high level of education to everyone. You'll probably dispute and it's impossible to definitely prove, but Medicare is more efficient than private health insurance. Regulating industries that will have natural monopolies, like telecoms, where initial capital costs are prohibitively high to limit easy entrance into the market; funding research that doesn't have immediate practical aims; regulating industries that would otherwise be able to seriously damage surrounding areas beyond the ability of regular insurance or lawsuits to recover damages, such as nuclear or coal power plants.
Naturally, you can find libertarians who will say each of those will take care of themselves in a mythical free market, but of course they don't, as we can tell from history before the relevant agencies existed and food/drug safety was horrendous, illiteracy was rampant, only a tiny minority had higher education or even vo/tec training, and you had to pay extra fees to connect any phone not sold by Bell themselves to the phone network.
Matt1970
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There is only one person in life you really need to be honest with and judging from your posts it doesn't look like you are.
Paratus
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cybrsage
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Spelling Nazi alert! -10 cool points. You are now down to -googolplex cool points. Please unplug your computer and wait 10,500 years before logging back onto the Internet, to give your negative cool points time to roll off your record.
Yup, and you'd think the Republicans would welcome 30,000 more zombies to their ranks.
Paratus
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Meh,
The real point is if you are registered to vote and then die then ZOMG died person registered to vote. Another nice diversion to paint these voter suppression tactics as necessary to prevent " rampant fraud".
Matt1970
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We wish we could pull them to our side, but so far the brain dead have a habit of voting Liberal.
We wish we could pull them to our side, but so far the brain dead have a habit of voting Liberal.
Well remember fear is what motivates people to vote Republican. What do the dead have to fear?
umbrella39
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What else would you expect from democrats, they want to have ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTs who steal tax dollars to vote
shortylickens
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Hypothetically, if proving the right to vote took out batches of Republican voters, you better believe the Democrats would be all over that shit.
Their hypocrisy is fantastic.
Their hypocrisy is fantastic.
I think you're having trouble convincing even yourself, give your need to repeat, repeat, repeat...
The absurd paranoia in that statement is quite twisted, you know...
Why do you project your own feelings onto others?
The only near modern Democrats who ever sought to restrict the franchise were "conservative" racist southern Democrats, and they all vote Republican, now.
Lots of elderly citizens of both parties will be denied the right to vote with some of the new voter ID laws, and Dems defend their rights regardless of party.
Repubs, otoh, seem to think that they'll gain more than they lose with voter suppression, so Grandma goes under the bus...
It's a small price to pay for winning, right?
This is the worst argument I've seen in a long time.
"That cop probably would drink and drive too! What a hypocrite!"
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