Voter ID: College Edition

[nehalem256]

So?

Why shouldn't students be allowed to vote where they attend school? Surely, they would care more about local issues that affect them 9-10 months of the year versus issues at home where they may only spend 2 months of the year.

And so long as they adjust their DL to reflect that there is no problem. It seems rather silly to have your DL from the state you only live in 2 months out of the year huh?

And you are as wrong now as you were then. The post from Perknose spells out why.

It shows nothing. What if you physically live in 2 places? Does Mitt Romney for instance just get to randomly choose one of the houses he lives in to vote from?

That does not sound very fair to me.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

And so long as they adjust their DL to reflect that there is no problem.



It shows nothing. What if you physically live in 2 places? Does Mitt Romney for instance just get to randomly choose one of the houses he lives in to vote from?

That does not sound very fair to me.

You have a real comprehension issue. No one cares what you think. The Supreme Court ruling was very clear. Why are you willfully ignoring it?

Physical residency and state residency are completely different matters.

 

[nehalem256]

You have a real comprehension issue. No one cares what you think. The Supreme Court ruling was very clear. Why are you willfully ignoring it?

I am not.

By law, a student can legally list a college dorm as his address

Nothing I have said challenges this. I am saying a student can legally list their college dorm as their address. Where have I said they cannot?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I am not.



Nothing I have said challenges this. I am saying a student can legally list their college dorm as their address. Where have I said they cannot?

You stated if they don't change their drivers license address they are a resident of their home state and must vote there. You are wrong. As long as they are a student and can show physical residency they are free to vote.

Are you acknowledging you were wrong now?

 

[monovillage]

You have a real comprehension issue. No one cares what you think. The Supreme Court ruling was very clear. Why are you willfully ignoring it?

Physical residency and state residency are completely different matters.

Follow up to the story: 1 non-citizen voted, 5 other non-citizens registered to vote, 77 students were registered to vote in 2 different states.

http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article/173524/2/Voter-fraud-investigation-results-released

Fraud was found, not huge numbers, but try robbing a bank and only taking a little money. Crime is crime, fraud is fraud.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Follow up to the story: 1 non-citizen voted, 5 other non-citizens registered to vote, 77 students were registered to vote in 2 different states.

http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article/173524/2/Voter-fraud-investigation-results-released

Fraud was found, not huge numbers, but try robbing a bank and only taking a little money. Crime is crime, fraud is fraud.

Again, as is covered in every single one of these threads, voter ID would have impacted this how?

1 vote. 1. That's it.

 

[nehalem256]

You stated if they don't change their drivers license address they are a resident of their home state and must vote there. You are wrong. As long as they are a student and can show physical residency they are free to vote.

Are you acknowledging you were wrong now?

No because your interpretation is absurd.

Being a college student confers no special rights.

You are arguing that if a person maintains residences in multiple states they can randomly pick one on election day and vote there.

Now lets looked at the bolded Perknose:

By Mr. Webster’s logic, a student who comes from another state to attend college in Maine could not be allowed to vote in Maine for at least a year. This isn’t the law, even if Mr. Webster wishes it were.

I 100% agree that a student is allowed to become a residence of a state the minute they set foot in their dorm. However, if they become a resident then they are required to update their DL accordingly.

You are arguing that a student can randomly decide each year which state they want to vote in 🙄

 

[nehalem256]

Again, as is covered in every single one of these threads, voter ID would have impacted this how?

1 vote. 1. That's it.

How do you determine whether someone is a citizen based on their name?

It seems to me like requiring photo ID will make it awfully hard for illegal immigrants to vote.

Well except in California.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

No because your interpretation is absurd.

Being a college student confers no special rights.

You are arguing that if a person maintains residences in multiple states they can randomly pick one on election day and vote there.

Now lets looked at the bolded Perknose:


I 100% agree that a student is allowed to become a residence of a state the minute they set foot in their dorm. However, if they become a resident then they are required to update their DL accordingly.

You are arguing that a student can randomly decide each year which state they want to vote in 🙄

Holy shit you are dense. Or just intentionally obtuse. The supreme court said they can. Get it? How can you be this fucking stupid? It's the supreme court! No one gives a shit what you or Mr. Webster think. The law of the land is clear.

 

[monovillage]

Again, as is covered in every single one of these threads, voter ID would have impacted this how?

1 vote. 1. That's it.

and possibly the 77 other votes, you don't know and neither do I know if those students would have actually committed fraud. A 77 vote swing in a small college community is a big swing.

 

[Smoblikat]

Maybe its to stop voter fraud? I dont understand why its so hard to just show proper ID

It isnt, people just need somthing to whine about.

 

[nehalem256]

Holy shit you are dense. Or just intentionally obtuse. The supreme court said they can. Get it? How can you be this fucking stupid? It's the supreme court! No one gives a shit what you or Mr. Webster think. The law of the land is clear.

Please point out where the Supreme Court said they could register to vote at their college while remaining a resident of another state?

The case was about students being completely prevent from registering to vote from their dorm.

And it would seem you are dense as you continue to ignore other results of what you are arguing for. Such as Mitt Romney being able to decide to vote in a different locale every election.

By your logic a bunch of Republicans could take a road trip from a safe Red state stay in a hotel for the night in a purple state and then vote there. After all they "physically live" there now 😀

 

[cybrsage]

Liberals are human garbage, this is all about protecting illegal voting rights and winning elections.

 

[cybrsage]

If only that pesky Supreme Court hadn't ruled that students are free to register to vote in either their home state or their at-school state.

Yes, they can register to vote in their home state while physically in a different state...they cannot vote in the state they are going to school unless it is their home state.

 

[cybrsage]

I think it's about time for the members on the Democratic party to start doing what we expect of decent Muslims, to stand up and repudiate the assholes among them, to demand that the fanatical antiAmericans among then stop interfering with the vote and start presenting a message you don't have to be a piece of cheating scum to win with.

 

[lotus503]

And so long as they adjust their DL to reflect that there is no problem. It seems rather silly to have your DL from the state you only live in 2 months out of the year huh?



It shows nothing. What if you physically live in 2 places? Does Mitt Romney for instance just get to randomly choose one of the houses he lives in to vote from?

That does not sound very fair to me.

If you are a citizen of this country and of legal age you have the right to vote in this country. Anything put forth to disparage exercising this right is horseshit, doing so on purpose to stop people from voting is an act of treason.

RW lunatics that support this yet wrap themselves in our constitution at every chance should be completely ashamed if themselves for supporting acts of said treason.

But hey if it helps our guy win its cool!

Amiright .

Hypocritical pathological pieces of shit every last last one of you.

 

[cybrsage]

If you are a citizen of this country and of legal age you have the right to vote in this country. Anything put forth to disparage exercising this right is horseshit, doing so on purpose to stop people from voting is an act of treason.

Then why are you not crying and whining about voter registration? According to you, it is treason to require it.

 

[nehalem256]

If you are a citizen of this country and of legal age you have the right to vote in this country. Anything put forth to disparage exercising this right is horseshit, doing so on purpose to stop people from voting is an act of treason.

RW lunatics that support this yet wrap themselves in our constitution at every chance should be completely ashamed if themselves for supporting acts of said treason.

But hey if it helps our guy win its cool!

Amiright .

Hypocritical pathological pieces of shit every last last one of you.

Funny that you talk about treason when you do not even know what it is. The constitution defines it as "Giving aid and comfort to the enemy". Seems to me like issuing work permits to foreign invaders would qualify. But wait I guess that is ok because YOUR GUY is doing that.

And you are also wrong about their being a right to vote. It is defined no where in the constitution. And looking back at the history of our country it has been restricted many times. Leading to amendments that restrict when voting can be restricted.

I see no reason for why it is unreasonable to say that you cannot gain residence in a locale merely by staying at a hotel for the night.

 

[monovillage]

If you are a citizen of this country and of legal age you have the right to vote in this country. Anything put forth to disparage exercising this right is horseshit, doing so on purpose to stop people from voting is an act of treason.

RW lunatics that support this yet wrap themselves in our constitution at every chance should be completely ashamed if themselves for supporting acts of said treason.

But hey if it helps our guy win its cool!

Amiright .

Hypocritical pathological pieces of shit every last last one of you.

Unless you're a felon or non compos mentis. My bet is you're both. I think Senator Franken won in Minnesota because of the felon vote. Amirite?

 

[boomerang]

Absentee ballots eleviates the entire situation. If a student is intent on voting, they can obtain one. It's not difficult, the process is simple. Vote in your home state.

Whiny fucking kids...

 

[Brainonska511]

Absentee ballots eleviates the entire situation. If a student is intent on voting, they can obtain one. It's not difficult, the process is simple. Vote in your home state.

Whiny fucking kids...

Right... "whiny fucking kids" 🙄

Consider reading this post

 

[nehalem256]

Right... "whiny fucking kids" 🙄

Consider reading this post

If they are a resident of the state they are attending school in then they are in violation of the law by not attaining a DL in that state.

What do you call someone who is "disenfranchised", because they violate the law? I think: "whiny fucking kids" is accurate.

 

[cybrsage]

Right... "whiny fucking kids" 🙄

Consider reading this post

It is not as simple as the whiny kid you quoted pretends it is. The laws differ from state to state. If you really want to know, you have to look here:

As a student, you have a constitutional right to register and vote in the place you truly consider to be “home” — whether that’s your parents’ house, your apartment, or your dorm room. But before you make the important decision about where to vote, make sure you know the rules (and sometimes consequences) of registering to vote in that state. If you have trouble viewing the above map, click on the state you want to vote from below for full information about voting and elections.

http://www.brennancenter.org/content/student_voting/

In Maine, you can register on election day at the poll, but you MUST have classified Maine as your permanent residence to do so. If you have not, then you cannot vote in Maine. If you do, then you cannot claim out of state tuition rates because you are not an out of state student, you are a resident. There is a small window where you can be both a resident and pay out of state tuition rates. See below:

If the student is enrolled full-time in an academic program, as defined by the University, it will be presumed that the student is in Maine for educational purposes, and that the student is not in Maine to establish a domicile. A residence established for the purpose of attending a UMS campus shall not by itself constitute domicile. The burden will be on the student to prove that he or she has established a Maine domicile for other than educational purposes. An individual who has lived in the State of Maine, for other than educational purposes, one year prior to registration or application to a campus is considered an in-state student.

http://umaine.edu/bursar/residency-guidelines/

 

[Brainonska511]

If they are a resident of the state they are attending school in then they are in violation of the law by not attaining a DL in that state.

And if they don't have a DL?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

If they are a resident of the state they are attending school in then they are in violation of the law by not attaining a DL in that state.

What do you call someone who is "disenfranchised", because they violate the law? I think: "whiny fucking kids" is accurate.

You keep posting this and it's still wrong.

http://www.fairelectionsnetwork.com/webfm_send/62

Q: I’ve heard that if I register to vote in my college community I’ll have to change my driver’s license and motor vehicle registration? Is this true?
A: With very few exceptions, registering to vote will have no impact on whether you will have to change your driver’s license and motor vehicle registration. If you have questions about your obligations to update your driver’s license and motor vehicle registration while attending school, you may contact the state’s Department of Motor Vehicles.

Almost every state makes exceptions for students.