Voodoo3 driver

[Julios]

I just received a voodoo3 3500 tv AGP as a gift. I had a cl tnt1 before that. I run on a celeron 366@450 64 ram.
I am getting siginificantly worse frames with the v3, and i'm not sure which drivers to use - and am wondering if wickedgl is worth it in low resolutions. I run at 640 res, vertex lighting, picmip5 etc.
Can anyone lend some suggestions as to which drivers are the best?
I've heard that wickedgl is good for high res/detail, but is it better or worse for the settings I run at?

thanks in advance

 

[Rifter]

i also just upgraded from a TNT 1 to a v3 3000 AGP,and i am getting alot better framerates, are you crazy??? i am getting at least a 20% boost in most games. What drivers are you useing? i am using the most recent standard relesed ones(not beta). What are your 3dmark 2000 scores BTW, i got about 1200 with my TNT and i get 1800-1900 with my V3.

 

[Julios]

Bout to do a 3dmark bench right now with the v3.

I'm using the 4.12.0.1.1225 provided by 3dfx. Release date 8-10-2000 with 3dfx Tools 2.5.4.97

With and without WickedGl, the drivers perform worse than the detonators I was using before with my TNT1 (2.08); something must be wrong. It's not only lower timedemo scores (68-78 across most levels of detail in 640 res) - compared to 75-90 with the TNT1 (this is without dll's) .
And it feels slower to, especially on maps like tourney4, where before was smooth within limits, it's quite a bit choppier now.

Celeron 366@458 64 ram w/ fsb @83mhz, Asus P3bf mobo.

I think the clock speed of the v3 is 183 mhz for both memory and core.
What I may have done, is botch up the driver database while switching drivers, but i was fairly certain i did a clean job, making sure i switched to Standard VGA before installing the card.

 

[Rifter]

Yes the clock speed of a 3500 is 183Mhz, i only got a 3000 which is 166Mhz and it is still faster than my TNT 1, BTW my proc is a celeron 366@550 on a Abit BM6 with 288MB RAM.

[edit] I did s fresh install of win98 with my new card, maybe some of the old drivers are screwing you up[/edit]

 

[RussianSpy]

Voodoo3's kick the TNT1 cards on all levels but they come with pretty bad drivers on the original CD. Some games require miniGL in order to run properly so make sure you download the newest drivers and miniGL drivers (not Beta) and you should get a huge performance boost.

Good luck

 

[Dufusyte]

The V3 3500 come with some funky web-tv software that is supposed to cause performance problems with games. Try uninstalling the web-tv stuff.

 

[Julios]

http://www.madonion.com/performance/orb/?3d2k_details.shtml

this is addy of my results with 3dmark - i scored 1490 in the 1024 tests, and 1510 in the low res tests.

 

[TegSkywalker]

Ok first of all make sure you have the lastest Voodoo 3 3500 offical driver from 3dfx.

After those are installed properly, be sure to grab the WickedGL drivers from Megabyte.

 

[Julios]

It's ok - i tried everything, and I'm convinced that on my computer, with my low res/detail settings, the tnt1 beats out the v3 3500, and i've gone back to the tnt1
thnx for the replies.

 

[Eug]

Rifter is correct. I had terrible performance until I manually removed ALL references to my old video card in my registry.

Clocked to less that V3 3500 speeds, my V3 plus Celeron 920 gives me 3300 in 3DMark2000 at the default 1024 setting.

Your TNT1 should be kicked by the V3. There's something wrong with your installation/drivers.

By the way, your link will be useless, because it's a generic URL.

 

[Julios]

Look at it this way, with my tnt1 I was able to pull over 100 fps in demo001 in quake3, and maintain 80- 130 in most maps stable. Even tourney4 it'd rarely drop below 70.
With the v3, sure i was able to get higher fps in 800 res, full detail, etc than the tnt1, but for raw speed in low res, the tnt1 was faster.
Maybe it has something to do with the opengl icd provided by 3dfx. Nvidia seems to have better gl support.

In unreal, I'm sure even a voodoo2 would kick a tnt1's ass, because of the glide capabilities of the card.

 

[merlocka]

I have to chime in, I've seen the same thing as Julios. If all you care about is fps you can "ugly up" a TnT! and get higher low res fps than a voodoo3 (in my case it was a Diamond V550 at 115/120 versus a Voodoo3 2000 at 166MHz on a celeron 550).

Naturally, with the V3 you can tweak Q3 settings and get nice 22bit rates (~60) with the wickedGL at 1024x768. The TnT chokes very quickly when you start adding features.

100fps on a TnT? I never got mine that high in a timedemo, but it got me about 10fps higher than the V3 (i think it was like 80 vs 70 at 640x480 fast, i might be wrong)

I never messed with the q3 dll's or picmap though.

seeing 100fps from an original TnT is pretty sweeeet though, gotta admit if mad fps is what you are looking for try selling both cards in the forum and pick up a geforce mx. ugly that thing up and you will get a boost. or perhaps a celeron2 566 -> 850 ?

 

[Shudder]

You should definitely get WickedGL drivers for any game running in OGL opposed to Glide.

I didn't think it would be THAT big of a difference, but in MDK2 alone I got 15fps higher average during the video test. That's a big difference.

 

[Isaiah]

I just got a Voodoo3 3500tv and it is alot fastter then my old TNT




Isaiah