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Vonage Vows to Pursue Customers Who Renege on IPO

mzkhadir

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http://www.vonage-forum.com/ftopic14409.html

Before you decide not to pay, you may want to consider this. Someone got this off the DJ wire and posted it to the message boards on finance.yahoo.com:

5:36P (DJ) *WSJ: Vonage Says Customers Obligated On IPO Shares Story 10228 =WSJ: Vonage: Customers Bound By Promises To Buy IPO Shrs By Shawn Young Of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

As its shares continued to sink following its initial public offering last week, Vonage Holdings Corp. (VG) said it plans to hold investors who promised to buy IPO shares to their pledges.

Some investors have threatened to withhold payment for IPO shares they had promised to buy through an unusual program that allowed Vonage customers to participate in the IPO.

Shares of Vonage, which offers Internet-based phone service, immediately plunged from the $17 IPO price, and they closed Wednesday at $12.02 in 4 p.m. New York Stock Exchange composite trading. Vonage is obligated to pay its underwriters if customers who agreed to buy IPO shares default.

A Vonage spokeswoman said Wednesday the company will pursue payment from customers who renege on their agreements.
"If they don't pay, we will reserve our right to pursue payment," said Brooke Schulz. She added that speculation that the company intends to buy shares back from disappointed investors are false. "They are taking a risk if they choose not to pay," she said.

She declined to comment on how the company might pursue those who refuse to pay or on how many customers have refused to pay. Many customers already have paid and many more intend to, according to postings they have entered on the Web site www.vonage-forum.com

The company, based in Holmdel, N.J., set aside about 4 million shares at the $17 IPO price for customers, and a person familiar with the matter said 9,000 to 10,000 customers signed up to buy shares. The IPO raised about $531 million for Vonage, which is growing rapidly but is not profitable.
 
i was going to try to buy all 5000 shares of this (though i guess i would have only gotten 1000 or so)...

for once being lazy paid off. 😀
 
I am so thrilled to see that a company that believed its own hype fall on its face and take 1000s of dreamers with them. Want to survive? Turn a profit, but dont be the pied piper leading to a bankruptcy date and broke "stakeholders". Those CEOs can go to hell.
 
Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
Can someone give me the reader's digest version of why Vonage flopped and why they're in hot water?



They have had to spend a lot more money for infrastructure then they are currently bringing in.

And word is quickly spreading about their lack of customer support and sound quality. They need to grow their customer base like eBay did in the late 90s-- unfortunately for them they now have a lot of competition and a less than stellar reputation.
 
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
I am so thrilled to see that a company that believed its own hype fall on its face and take 1000s of dreamers with them. Want to survive? Turn a profit, but dont be the pied piper leading to a bankruptcy date and broke "stakeholders". Those CEOs can go to hell.

Investors should've taken a better look at the company before agreeing to purchase IPO shares. Vonage isn't doing anything wrong by trying to collect here.
 
Originally posted by: puffff
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
I am so thrilled to see that a company that believed its own hype fall on its face and take 1000s of dreamers with them. Want to survive? Turn a profit, but dont be the pied piper leading to a bankruptcy date and broke "stakeholders". Those CEOs can go to hell.

Investors should've taken a better look at the company before agreeing to purchase IPO shares. Vonage isn't doing anything wrong by trying to collect here.

:laugh:

"May persue payment" = "Buy these dam shares now worth $12 for the $17 IPO price - or else!!!"

:laugh:
 
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: puffff
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
I am so thrilled to see that a company that believed its own hype fall on its face and take 1000s of dreamers with them. Want to survive? Turn a profit, but dont be the pied piper leading to a bankruptcy date and broke "stakeholders". Those CEOs can go to hell.

Investors should've taken a better look at the company before agreeing to purchase IPO shares. Vonage isn't doing anything wrong by trying to collect here.

:laugh:

"May persue payment" = "Buy these dam shares now worth $12 for the $17 IPO price - or else!!!"

:laugh:

that's how I read it too....but if the people had an agreement to buy, they should follow through......at the current price..
 
Originally posted by: MathMan
Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
Can someone give me the reader's digest version of why Vonage flopped and why they're in hot water?



They have had to spend a lot more money for infrastructure then they are currently bringing in.

And word is quickly spreading about their lack of customer support and sound quality. They need to grow their customer base like eBay did in the late 90s-- unfortunately for them they now have a lot of competition and a less than stellar reputation.

Having actually worked at Vonage up until a few months ago in the technical support department I can tell you why they suck so much -- the working conditions were HORRIBLE. Management treated employees (at least those on the phones) like they were expendable, we weren't allowed to go to the bathroom until our break came up, and other BS like that. I honestly felt like a slave in my few months there.

I didn't even apply for the technical support role, I applied for the NOC Engineer position and they said everybody starts of on the phones and moves up. Thinking that it would be a great new company to work for I quit my job, took a huge paycut and got on the phones (which was a nightmare, btw). I also later found out that they told everybody that they would move up, etc etc, yet I never heard a story of anybody really moving up if they started on the phones -- apparently it was just a way for them to get warm bodies in the seats due to the increasing number of calls.

One thing's for certain though -- an employee who's treated well will tend to work harder, and the opposite also applies. Here's hoping Vonage falls flat on its face in a year.
 
Originally posted by: Accipiter22
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: puffff
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
I am so thrilled to see that a company that believed its own hype fall on its face and take 1000s of dreamers with them. Want to survive? Turn a profit, but dont be the pied piper leading to a bankruptcy date and broke "stakeholders". Those CEOs can go to hell.

Investors should've taken a better look at the company before agreeing to purchase IPO shares. Vonage isn't doing anything wrong by trying to collect here.

:laugh:

"May persue payment" = "Buy these dam shares now worth $12 for the $17 IPO price - or else!!!"

:laugh:

that's how I read it too....but if the people had an agreement to buy, they should follow through......at the current price..

That's unreasonable. What if vonage shares went up to $30 a share. Does that mean vonage has the right to say 'no, we wont give you at the IPO price anymore because it went up'?

Bottom line, those investors deemed vonage shares were worth $17 at the IPO (or they wouldnt have agreed to buy) and they were wrong. They need to pony up the money.
 
Originally posted by: Accipiter22
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: puffff
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
I am so thrilled to see that a company that believed its own hype fall on its face and take 1000s of dreamers with them. Want to survive? Turn a profit, but dont be the pied piper leading to a bankruptcy date and broke "stakeholders". Those CEOs can go to hell.

Investors should've taken a better look at the company before agreeing to purchase IPO shares. Vonage isn't doing anything wrong by trying to collect here.

:laugh:

"May persue payment" = "Buy these dam shares now worth $12 for the $17 IPO price - or else!!!"

:laugh:

that's how I read it too....but if the people had an agreement to buy, they should follow through......at the current price..

At the current price? 😕 That makes no sense.

Where's JS80 - did he ever pay for his shares? He seemed to be contemplating reneging. 😉

It was pretty stupid on Vonage's part to not require payment up front.
 
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
I told everyone not to buy it. They should have listened.

Yes, well based on the first line of your sig you should have known they wouldn't. Especially they get the dollar signs in the eyes.
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
I told everyone not to buy it. They should have listened.

Yes, well based on the first line of your sig you should have known they wouldn't. Especially they get the dollar signs in the eyes.

indeed. why would anyone buy an IPO for a piss-poor company with terrible service.
 
Originally posted by: wasssup
Originally posted by: MathMan
Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
Can someone give me the reader's digest version of why Vonage flopped and why they're in hot water?



They have had to spend a lot more money for infrastructure then they are currently bringing in.

And word is quickly spreading about their lack of customer support and sound quality. They need to grow their customer base like eBay did in the late 90s-- unfortunately for them they now have a lot of competition and a less than stellar reputation.

Having actually worked at Vonage up until a few months ago in the technical support department I can tell you why they suck so much -- the working conditions were HORRIBLE. Management treated employees (at least those on the phones) like they were expendable, we weren't allowed to go to the bathroom until our break came up, and other BS like that. I honestly felt like a slave in my few months there.

I didn't even apply for the technical support role, I applied for the NOC Engineer position and they said everybody starts of on the phones and moves up. Thinking that it would be a great new company to work for I quit my job, took a huge paycut and got on the phones (which was a nightmare, btw). I also later found out that they told everybody that they would move up, etc etc, yet I never heard a story of anybody really moving up if they started on the phones -- apparently it was just a way for them to get warm bodies in the seats due to the increasing number of calls.

One thing's for certain though -- an employee who's treated well will tend to work harder, and the opposite also applies. Here's hoping Vonage falls flat on its face in a year.

i have a friend who works there. spent quite a while on the phone before he made it to NOC engineer. but he has to work nights which sucks cuz he never gets to come out on the fri night festivities
 
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