VMWare Fusion 2.0 Beta 1

bearxor

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So, anyone else tried VMWF 2.0b1?

I'm a registered buy of VMWF 1.1, but it's sat on my shelf basically since I bought it and I've used my *cough*extendedtrial*cough* of Parallels instead.

I had been interested in giving it another shot and tried the new 2.0 beta. I bought VMWF because I believed that even though Parallels was ahead of the game right now, that VMW would really whip Fusion 2 into shape to compete.

Here's the list of show stoppers that will keep me on Parallels for the time being:
1) Parallels maps your Windows 'My Documents' and 'Desktop' folder to your OS X profile, meaning you manage one set of them rather than two. Not in Fusion.

2) VMWare continues to ignore the cries for shared applications. This is where you have a word document on your OS X desktop, and you double-click it to open in finder, and you can choose to have it open in Word for Windows or Word for OS X, or vice-versa.

This is how you have to open a Word file on your OS X desktop in Fusion:
A)Start Word for Windows in fusion
B) Navigate to the file through the 'Shared Folders' to select and open it.

This is how you do it in Parallels:
A) Double-click the file.

Thats 100% more steps in Fusion!!!

I saw some talk on this on the VMWare Beta boards, the main consensus is that VMW is aware of the want, but are concerned about security. HHHEEEEELLLLOOOOOOOO!!! Parallels has had this feature since v3 in June 2007. Are you telling me it's a year later and you can't replicate this feature? Are people really that concerned with a Windows virus telling your machine to run OS X Terminal to delete your hard drive? Am I the only one who keeps important files on a USB drive hardly ever attached to my machine? Am I making any sense whatsoever at this point?!?!

3) Dual-core performance continues to make my VM's run slower. This is supposed to be a bg feature of Fusion over Parallels. However, every time I tick that '2 Virtual Processors' radio button, my VM slows down by about 20%. W. T. F.

4) Gaming + Resolution. Suppose you're running Windows in full-screen mode in Parallels. You start a game, like RA2, whose max resolution is 1024x768. In Fusion, you play in a small 1024x768 box. The problem is worse on older games, whose max resolution may be 640x480. In Parallels, the game is fullscreened to take up the most real estate... Sure, it may not look pretty because of older graphics being blown up to 4X their resolution, but it beats having to squint.

Having said that, I do like the UI of Fusion better than Parallels. For me, however, Fusion is still lagging behind quite significantly in terms of usability. People commonly ask me, because I'm in charge of IT at my company, which to buy for their Mac. I continuously support Parallels as a buying suggestion and see no reason to change that recommendation unless VMW adds a bucket full of features in 2.0b2.

Anyone else used 2.0b1 and have thoughts?
 

JackBurton

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1. Ok, listen, I don't know what you Mac guys are used to, but VMWare is designed to be a SEPARATE machine and should be treated like a separate physical machine. It is virtual, but a separate machine nonetheless. If you don't like it, go use Parallels. I want it to be kept separate.

2. Yes, if performance is a problem in Fusion, that is definitely a valid complaint. VMWare wasn't really designed to play games, but it looks like they are working on having it support at least DirectX 8.
 

bearxor

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
1. Ok, listen, I don't know what you Mac guys are used to, but VMWare is designed to be a SEPARATE machine and should be treated like a separate physical machine. It is virtual, but a separate machine nonetheless. If you don't like it, go use Parallels. I want it to be kept separate.

In a server environment, where the goal is to have virtual machines performing various tasks, you're absolutely right. A sister paper virtualizes their DC's and Exchange boxes and they're backed up nightly, on Linux.

But this is a VMWare consumer desktop product aimed at normal users who want to run Windows and OS X applications side-by-side on the same desktop. In my opinion, they've gone out of their way to make doing this as inconvenient as possible.

I'm all for having a choice. If you want it off, turn it off. It's not mandatory in Parallels either.

Actually, VMWF supports DX9 without shaders. 2.0 is supposed to support shaders. I'm not expecting a Fusion VM to be a serious game playing machine and my comments about performance were not aimed at game playing, just Windows in general. I would like to see Fusion be at least smart enough to match what Parallels is doing and then exceed it. It just seems to me they're happy where they are.
 

aphex

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I've had a NIGHTMARE of a time getting the latest update of Parallels 2.5 to work properly in Leopard. It takes down my whole system 9/10 times I try to load the damn thing. I've since switched to VMWare and its working beautifully.
 

Keitero

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I love Fusion vs. Parallels mostly because I have other VM machines from my server and desktop that I can use without any issues.
 

Kmax82

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I understand your complaints bearxor, but the dual display support in VMWare 2.0 Beta is what's keeping me there at the moment. If Parallels got true dual display support, I would switch back in a heartbeat. I'm sure that they'll make it part of the upgrade fee for 4.0, though, and that will make it less appealing.
 

Tyranicus

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I know this wasn't your point, but RA2 will run at full RES if you edit the ini file.
 

aphex

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Originally posted by: AsianriceX
Originally posted by: aphex
I've had a NIGHTMARE of a time getting the latest update of Parallels 2.5 to work properly in Leopard. It takes down my whole system 9/10 times I try to load the damn thing. I've since switched to VMWare and its working beautifully.

Looks like 2.5 isn't supported in Leopard. Did you give 3.0 a chance?
http://www.parallels.com/en/support/desktop/leopard/

2.5 is supported.

http://forums.parallels.com/showthread.php?t=18635

It just works like shit. I haven't tried Parallels 3.0 yet as I just paid $60 for Parallels last year and I'm not spending $50 more with the hope it might work better as it seems many parallels 3.0 people are having similar issues (based on that forum).
 

bearxor

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Originally posted by: Kmax82
I understand your complaints bearxor, but the dual display support in VMWare 2.0 Beta is what's keeping me there at the moment. If Parallels got true dual display support, I would switch back in a heartbeat. I'm sure that they'll make it part of the upgrade fee for 4.0, though, and that will make it less appealing.

This is a big complaint have with Parallels. They shafted the 2.5 users with releasing 3 and then charging for it. I'm hoping that VMWare simply upgrades everybody for all future releases like they are for 2.

But yes, Parallels 2.5 does not work in Leopard.
 

Kmax82

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Yea.. I don't mind a nominal fee for an upgrade that's significant. But what they did to 2.5 users was just wrong IMO. I think that if you own one release prior to another full dot release then it shouldn't be more than 1/6 of the full price to upgrade.
 

ItsPat

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I agree, Parallels has some nice features...I would love to run it but it always crashes. VMWare is rock solid for me.