pcslookout

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vlite Has anyone tried this before? Wondering if its worth doing to vista or if you have a powerful enough system just don't worry about it ? I like the idea but in another way worried that I will need something I remove later down the road. Then cause even more headaches.
 

ForumMaster

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i have used nLite for years to create up to date windows XP images. why not create an up to date vista image as well?
 

pcslookout

Lifer
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Originally posted by: ForumMaster
i have used nLite for years to create up to date windows XP images. why not create an up to date vista image as well?

Done with True Image! :D
 

dclive

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Originally posted by: pcslookout
vlite Has anyone tried this before? Wondering if its worth doing to vista or if you have a powerful enough system just don't worry about it ? I like the idea but in another way worried that I will need something I remove later down the road. Then cause even more headaches.

What does vlite and 'powerful enough system just don't worry about it' have to do with one another. vlite is a Vista-installing tool, and that has nothing to do with how powerful your system is...unless you do some really bad things with eliminating services, which is a bad, bad idea. See my website for my opinions on troubleshooting and such.)
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: dclive
Originally posted by: pcslookout
vlite Has anyone tried this before? Wondering if its worth doing to vista or if you have a powerful enough system just don't worry about it ? I like the idea but in another way worried that I will need something I remove later down the road. Then cause even more headaches.

What does vlite and 'powerful enough system just don't worry about it' have to do with one another. vlite is a Vista-installing tool, and that has nothing to do with how powerful your system is...unless you do some really bad things with eliminating services, which is a bad, bad idea. See my website for my opinions on troubleshooting and such.)

I've used vlite to "trim the fat" so to speak, and the end result: not noticible gain in performance, tiny gains in free disk space, and the inability to install service packs because theyre looking for something that isnt there but is certainly supposed to be.

vlite is nothing but a dirty hack.
 

htne

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Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: dclive
Originally posted by: pcslookout
vlite Has anyone tried this before? Wondering if its worth doing to vista or if you have a powerful enough system just don't worry about it ? I like the idea but in another way worried that I will need something I remove later down the road. Then cause even more headaches.

What does vlite and 'powerful enough system just don't worry about it' have to do with one another. vlite is a Vista-installing tool, and that has nothing to do with how powerful your system is...unless you do some really bad things with eliminating services, which is a bad, bad idea. See my website for my opinions on troubleshooting and such.)

I've used vlite to "trim the fat" so to speak, and the end result: not noticible gain in performance, tiny gains in free disk space, and the inability to install service packs because theyre looking for something that isnt there but is certainly supposed to be.

vlite is nothing but a dirty hack.

I think you're overlooking an important point. I can't speak for Vlite, but I have used Nlite a number of times for building a custom version of the XP install CD. You can slipstream service packs and add drivers for non-standard drive controllers so that you can install without the F6 floppy trick. This last is very important on PCs without a floppy drive.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: htne
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: dclive
Originally posted by: pcslookout
vlite Has anyone tried this before? Wondering if its worth doing to vista or if you have a powerful enough system just don't worry about it ? I like the idea but in another way worried that I will need something I remove later down the road. Then cause even more headaches.

What does vlite and 'powerful enough system just don't worry about it' have to do with one another. vlite is a Vista-installing tool, and that has nothing to do with how powerful your system is...unless you do some really bad things with eliminating services, which is a bad, bad idea. See my website for my opinions on troubleshooting and such.)

I've used vlite to "trim the fat" so to speak, and the end result: not noticible gain in performance, tiny gains in free disk space, and the inability to install service packs because theyre looking for something that isnt there but is certainly supposed to be.

vlite is nothing but a dirty hack.

I think you're overlooking an important point. I can't speak for Vlite, but I have used Nlite a number of times for building a custom version of the XP install CD. You can slipstream service packs and add drivers for non-standard drive controllers so that you can install without the F6 floppy trick. This last is very important on PCs without a floppy drive.

Nlite is a very different beast under the hood. Theres a lot more modularity in the XP install, and thus it works a lot better. Vista is an image based install, and i'll say it again...vlite is nothing more than a dirty hack, and I'm not surprised that its causing me problems down the line. It has to recompile the image etc - frankly, its a very ugly way to accomplish a goal that doesnt really need accomplishing on a modern system. On a non-modern system, you shouldnt be installing vista in the first place, and trimming out stuff isnt going to make it run any better. Its just going to save a little HD space, which at this point is so cheap that its pointless to waste the time in doing so.

Slipstreaming service packs is great, dont get me wrong. Using vlite for the OPs intention, to remove things that they think they dont need is just a bad idea.