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Vista: Turn off full row select in details mode ?

13Gigatons

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I'm not sure who made the decision that full row select would be always on and have no way to disable it. There has to be a reg hack that disables it ?
 
Originally posted by: Ned Flanders
What's the problem with it selecting the full row?

It's annoying and I can't get used to it. I want it to be like Windows XP was where only the filename was highlighted.
 
Originally posted by: Smilin
Just so there are no illusions for the participants. This is the sort of thread you may be getting involved in:



Cya, have fun!

no starting trouble now....

If you know how to disable it please post it.
 
I'm assuming this is what you're talking about:
http://www.spyordie007.com/atforums/Explorer_Details_Selected.png

If you gave good descriptions or posted screen shots people would be able to give better suggestions...

Anyway Windows Explorer in detail view, when you select a row you are selecting a file (as opposed to a metadata field or attribute). As far as I know this behavior is by design. Given the design the behavior seems to make sense to me. Can you please explain what it is you're trying to accomplish that makes you think you need to select a specific attribute?
 
Originally posted by: spyordie007
I'm assuming this is what you're talking about:
http://www.spyordie007.com/atforums/Explorer_Details_Selected.png

If you gave good descriptions or posted screen shots people would be able to give better suggestions...

Anyway Windows Explorer in detail view, when you select a row you are selecting a file (as opposed to a metadata field or attribute). As far as I know this behavior is by design. Given the design the behavior seems to make sense to me. Can you please explain what it is you're trying to accomplish that makes you think you need to select a specific attribute?

It's just doesn't feel right and it's not how Windows XP worked. I've seen it in a few file managers but I always disable it.

PS: I assumed people here would know what 'full row select' was, it's been around for awhile and was actually in the Windows XP beta but you were able to disable it, they removed it in later beta's and the final version.
 
Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
Originally posted by: spyordie007
I'm assuming this is what you're talking about:
http://www.spyordie007.com/atforums/Explorer_Details_Selected.png

If you gave good descriptions or posted screen shots people would be able to give better suggestions...

Anyway Windows Explorer in detail view, when you select a row you are selecting a file (as opposed to a metadata field or attribute). As far as I know this behavior is by design. Given the design the behavior seems to make sense to me. Can you please explain what it is you're trying to accomplish that makes you think you need to select a specific attribute?

It's just doesn't feel right and it's not how Windows XP worked. I've seen it in a few file managers but I always disable it.

PS: I assumed people here would know what 'full row select' was, it's been around for awhile and was actually in the Windows XP beta but you were able to disable it, they removed it in later beta's and the final version.
You're talking about personal preference for how it looks, not actual functionality.

If we want to complain about how various features look I'm sure we could come up with lots of other little things... :roll:

Honestly, I dont see what the big deal is either way.
 
It's just doesn't feel right and it's not how Windows XP worked. I've seen it in a few file managers but I always disable it.

Arguably it was a UI bug in XP. You are selecting that row element, not editing sub parts. AFAIK there is no way to disable this... (sorry)

 
I may be completely wrong here, but I think the OP is talking about where you click to select the file. In XP if you click the white space to the right of the file name, you don't select any thing. In Vista, if you click the white space to the right of the filename, you select the file (and the row of information along with it). In XP it was easier to draw a box around multiple files becasue you can just click the white space and start a box. In Vista as soon as you click the white space you have selected something.

Does this have anything to do with it, or am I way off?
 
Originally posted by: jshupp872
I may be completely wrong here, but I think the OP is talking about where you click to select the file. In XP if you click the white space to the right of the file name, you don't select any thing. In Vista, if you click the white space to the right of the filename, you select the file (and the row of information along with it). In XP it was easier to draw a box around multiple files becasue you can just click the white space and start a box. In Vista as soon as you click the white space you have selected something.

Does this have anything to do with it, or am I way off?
That might be what he's saying.

It doesn't quite work that way. If you click on the white space in vista it does indeed select the file but you can still initiate a box draw with it. click anything unselected and drag and it will begin the box. If you click something already previously selected and drag it will begin a move.

If you goof up and click something to select it then decide later you wish to initiate a box from that spot you can: start the box from the other end of the selection, ctrl-click to unselect what you had selected, click something just below it then start the box again, or initiate the box from the thin left edge, or initiate the box from the whitespace way out to the right.

Basically play around with it. You can still draw boxes by clicking in the metadata that highlights the row.

I myself usually just use shift and control when making selections in detailed. I usually only box draw when I'm in a different view.

There is also still whitespace further out to the right if you wish. Most folks have the window sized so they see all columns (plus a bit of extra space) when they are using the detailed view. If not it's typically because they are in another view.

As was mentioned earlier I believe the full row select is by design and I'm not sure there is a way to change it. If there is, you can reverse engineer it by firing up regmon then opening an explorer window. As the window is built all settings for it will be read from the registry. If it's not read from the registry it's hard coded and not configurable.
 
Originally posted by: jshupp872
I may be completely wrong here, but I think the OP is talking about where you click to select the file. In XP if you click the white space to the right of the file name, you don't select any thing. In Vista, if you click the white space to the right of the filename, you select the file (and the row of information along with it). In XP it was easier to draw a box around multiple files becasue you can just click the white space and start a box. In Vista as soon as you click the white space you have selected something.

Does this have anything to do with it, or am I way off?

I think you are right on the money, well spotted.

Can also understand why this might irritate some people, although it doesn't bother me.
 
Originally posted by: jshupp872
I may be completely wrong here, but I think the OP is talking about where you click to select the file. In XP if you click the white space to the right of the file name, you don't select any thing. In Vista, if you click the white space to the right of the filename, you select the file (and the row of information along with it). In XP it was easier to draw a box around multiple files becasue you can just click the white space and start a box. In Vista as soon as you click the white space you have selected something.

Does this have anything to do with it, or am I way off?

Yes this exactly what I'm talking about. It's a function issue and not just an 'appearance' issue. I'm also asked by others how to disable this 'feature' and some have gotten so annoyed with it that they have me re-install XP.

There should be a way to disable it and have only filenames highlighted and selected.
 
Ill tell you why it bothers me. If I am dragging a folder into another folder with something in it, I have to get the spacing just right in between two folders to get it to not put it in a subfolder.

Wow.. thats alotta folder talk.

FOLDER
------------------WANT ANOTHER SUBFOLDER
--SUBFOLDER
--SUBFOLDER
------------------Must position mouse inbetween the folders to drop a folder in there.
--SUBFOLDER
--SUBFOLDER


I notice it a lot when Im moving tons of folders from a Beyond Compare scan mostly. Annoyance, but I could care less how it looks.
 
You can also turn on a checkbox that only shows up to the left of the file that you are on. It stays there if you check the box. That is one way to select multiple files. I cannot tell you how to do that, as I am not at home. I have it turned on and that is how I select files now.

I also copy files to the folders on the left, instead of on the right. I have been doing that for a long time, because it is easier and you cannot accidentally put it into a subfolder. (Well, it is MUCH harder to anyways... I am sure someone has....)
 
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