Vista sharing with XP

[mxnerd]

Hi:

I'm new to Vista. I installed Vista Ultimate on my machine A and wanted to share a drive to XP Pro machine B and I found I can't create files or folders from XP machine even though I already create an administrator account on Vista, let's say the name is Tony and he is one of the members of administrator group on both machine.

In the past, if both machines are XP Pro, as long as you are a member of administrators and you share a folder and give administrators full control, then you have full control to read, write, modify, delete and create.

Now, with Vista, I found that even if I set Tony as a member of Administrator group on Vista and share the drive so administrators group have full control, Tony on XP pro can read but CAN'T create or modify anything on Vista, the only way is add Tony explicitly to the permission list.

Did I do anything wrong or Microsoft change the way it works?

 

[RebateMonger]

Did you also set the "Share" settings to "Everyone - Full Control"?

 

[mxnerd]

Originally posted by: RebateMonger
Did you also set the "Share" settings to "Everyone - Full Control"?

No. "Everyone" is read only, not Full Control.

 

[mxnerd]

Anyone? Administrator account does not have this problem.

 

[mpilchfamily]

The answer was already given to you. You need to set the folders to everyone with full control. If its read only then you won't be able to do what you want to do.

 

[mxnerd]

If I give everyone "Full Control", then why the security? It does not make sense at all.

 

[RebateMonger]

Originally posted by: mxnerd
If I give everyone "Full Control", then why the security? It does not make sense at all.

"Sharing" and "Security" serve different purposes. Sharing is a prerequesite for access across the network. Security applies to both network access and local access. The end result is a combination of the two setings. It gets too complicated playing with both settings.

Standard Practice in the networking business is to set "Sharing" to "Everyone - Full Control" and to use the "Security" settings to actually control the access to the files.

 

[mxnerd]

I see. But in XP it works if I set it up this way in the past.

 

[hanoverphist]

then reload XP on the vista box and run with it. new products require you to change procedure at times. adapt or not, your choice

 

[JackMDS]

It seems that many of us forget that there is many more Networked computers running on Business related Networks, and that security is more crucial in thiers case than in the case of End_Users.

If many of the End_Users complians as related to Networking were real issue, buisnesses would not be able to run computers on Netwoks.

Thus.

Originally posted by: RebateMonger
Standard Practice in the networking business is to set "Sharing" to "Everyone - Full Control" and to use the "Security" settings to actually control the access to the files.

:thumbsup:

 

[mxnerd]

Thanks for all the inputs. I'll proceed as suggested. Just don't like the way Microsoft keeps changing things.

 

[RebateMonger]

Originally posted by: mxnerd
Just don't like the way Microsoft keeps changing things.

Nothing changed. With XP/Server 2003, if you don't EXPLICITLY give Share permissions, then NOBODY, not even an Administrator, is going to get to a shared folder across the network.

I just re-tested this with Server 2003. When I set a Shared folder to: "Everyone - Read", then the DOMAIN ADMINISTRATOR can only READ the shared folder. Administrator or not, you aren't going to get in.

 

[mxnerd]

Originally posted by: RebateMonger

Originally posted by: mxnerd
Just don't like the way Microsoft keeps changing things.

Nothing changed. With XP/Server 2003, if you don't EXPLICITLY give Share permissions, then NOBODY, not even an Administrator, is going to get to a shared folder across the network.

I just re-tested this with Server 2003. When I set a Shared folder to: "Everyone - Read", then the DOMAIN ADMINISTRATOR can only READ the shared folder. Administrator or not, you aren't going to get in.

Thanks for follow-up. However, I got different result.

I did the test again between 2 XP machines, both not under domain. And yes, I don't have to explicity list the user if he is one of the administrator. Will test later with domain.

 

[RebateMonger]

Originally posted by: mxnerd
I did the test again between 2 XP machines, both not under domain. And yes, I don't have to explicity list the user if he is one of the administrator. Will test later with domain.

Maybe you have "Simple File Sharing" enabled on XP Pro? That pretty much leaves things wide open. I don't know if Vista has anything equivalent to "Simple File Sharing" mode.