Vista RTM already on filesharing networks

[greylica]

Originally posted by: stash

I don't know for sure, but one reason might be because the quality of music from online stores sucks. Why anyone would pay to download a low quality DRM'ed music file when you can get a much higher quality, usually non-DRM'ed CD is beyond me.

But I digress.

192KBPS MP3 without DRM is very, very good than a crappy 128KBPS DRMed ******.

 

[stash]

192kbps sucks too. Better than 128k, of course, but still ass.

 

[coupland]

Originally posted by: stash
Your comparison of XP "Corp" and XP Home to the Vista SKUs makes no sense. "Corp" is a volume license of XP, a version intended for businesses.

I assume he means Pro vs Home, as opposed to "Corp" vs. Home.

 

[stash]

Originally posted by: coupland

Originally posted by: stash
Your comparison of XP "Corp" and XP Home to the Vista SKUs makes no sense. "Corp" is a volume license of XP, a version intended for businesses.

I assume he means Pro vs Home, as opposed to "Corp" vs. Home.

Except that he compared Vista Ultimate and Premium to XP Corp and Home.

The only two that are good is ultimate and Home Premium ( As XP Corp. and Home edition )

Ultimate is not comparable to Pro or anything else, because it is not a SKU that has existed before.

 

[stars]

I'm guessing alot of people that purchase low quality music online have basic sound cards and it really doesnt matter to them. To me, its more logical to purchase used cds.

 

[InlineFive]

Come on E-Academy and Microsoft, if the piraters get it now why can't I?

 

[Brazen]

Originally posted by: stash
192kbps sucks too. Better than 128k, of course, but still ass.

I saw a study once that took a bunch of people, some casual listeners, some audio professionals, and some audiophile enthusiasts who made the same clame. The study had various pieces of music at 4 sampling rates between 128 and uncompressed CD quality and the test subjects had to order them from best quality to worst quality.

Anyway, the results were that anything 192 or above was just as likely to be picked as the top quality. Many times 128 wasn't even put at the bottom. When put to the test, these people who said 192 was cr@p couldn't tell the difference between full CD quality and 192, and this was all played on professional audio equipment.

Since then, I don't hesitate to encode at 192. I wish I could find that test, I think it was on Cnet...

 

[Centurin]

I dont know why people are so hyped over Vista. Using a Microsoft OS the year it comes out should be a crime. We all know it will be full of bugs and security holes. XP was no different when it was first released. Directx 10 games won't be common place for a while. Better to wait a year and a few service packs until buying (or downloading :evil: ).

 

[stash]

I saw a study once that took a bunch of people, some casual listeners, some audio professionals, and some audiophile enthusiasts who made the same clame. The study had various pieces of music at 4 sampling rates between 128 and uncompressed CD quality and the test subjects had to order them from best quality to worst quality.

That sounds interesting, but it would be highly dependent on the audio equipment used in the test. If you have a bunch of people line up and listen to different sampling rates on a laptop, well yeah, I probably couldn't tell the difference

In another life, I was a semi-professional musician, so I hear things that most people don't. It's a bit of a curse too (like the uncontrollable need to walk in step to the beat of whatever music is playing in a department store, for example ).

 

[stash]

We all know it will be full of bugs and security holes. XP was no different when it was first released.

We do?

Vista is the first Windows OS to be developed using the Secure Development Lifecyle throughout the entire process. Other products from MS that went through SDL are IIS6 and SQL 2005, both of which have excellent security records.

I'm not saying there won't be security issues, but the OS has a significantly lower attack surface than XP or any other version of Windows.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/defau...l=/library/en-us/dnsecure/html/sdl.asp

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: stash

It's a bit of a curse too (like the uncontrollable need to walk in step to the beat of whatever music is playing in a department store, for example ).

I wouldn't go so far as to call that a curse.

 

[nweaver]

Originally posted by: stash

I saw a study once that took a bunch of people, some casual listeners, some audio professionals, and some audiophile enthusiasts who made the same clame. The study had various pieces of music at 4 sampling rates between 128 and uncompressed CD quality and the test subjects had to order them from best quality to worst quality.

That sounds interesting, but it would be highly dependent on the audio equipment used in the test. If you have a bunch of people line up and listen to different sampling rates on a laptop, well yeah, I probably couldn't tell the difference

In another life, I was a semi-professional musician, so I hear things that most people don't. It's a bit of a curse too (like the uncontrollable need to walk in step to the beat of whatever music is playing in a department store, for example ).

as long as you are swingin' that step (9 years on the old t-bone)

 

[nweaver]

Originally posted by: stash

We all know it will be full of bugs and security holes. XP was no different when it was first released.

We do?

Vista is the first Windows OS to be developed using the Secure Development Lifecyle throughout the entire process. Other products from MS that went through SDL are IIS6 and SQL 2005, both of which have excellent security records.

I'm not saying there won't be security issues, but the OS has a significantly lower attack surface than XP or any other version of Windows.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/defau...l=/library/en-us/dnsecure/html/sdl.asp

While I'm waiting to make the jump (at work, never will at home), if the SDL process creates a product difference like IIS5->II6 then things should be pretty darn good...

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: nweaver

Originally posted by: stash

We all know it will be full of bugs and security holes. XP was no different when it was first released.

We do?

Vista is the first Windows OS to be developed using the Secure Development Lifecyle throughout the entire process. Other products from MS that went through SDL are IIS6 and SQL 2005, both of which have excellent security records.

I'm not saying there won't be security issues, but the OS has a significantly lower attack surface than XP or any other version of Windows.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/defau...l=/library/en-us/dnsecure/html/sdl.asp

While I'm waiting to make the jump (at work, never will at home), if the SDL process creates a product difference like IIS5->II6 then things should be pretty darn good...

Are you planning on migrating before SP1?

 

[Leros]

People pirating windows? shens

 

[Brazen]

Originally posted by: Leros
People pirating windows? shens

I'm calling shens on the whole idea that Vista even exists.

 

[stash]

as long as you are swingin' that step (9 years on the old t-bone)

Hell yeah!

I'm a drummer and percussionist...I love jazz and good jazz trombone is great stuff.

 

[nweaver]

Originally posted by: stash

as long as you are swingin' that step (9 years on the old t-bone)

Hell yeah!

I'm a drummer and percussionist...I love jazz and good jazz trombone is great stuff.

figured you could tell by the way my post's drag

 

[nweaver]

Originally posted by: InlineFive

Originally posted by: nweaver

Originally posted by: stash

We all know it will be full of bugs and security holes. XP was no different when it was first released.

We do?

Vista is the first Windows OS to be developed using the Secure Development Lifecyle throughout the entire process. Other products from MS that went through SDL are IIS6 and SQL 2005, both of which have excellent security records.

I'm not saying there won't be security issues, but the OS has a significantly lower attack surface than XP or any other version of Windows.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/defau...l=/library/en-us/dnsecure/html/sdl.asp

While I'm waiting to make the jump (at work, never will at home), if the SDL process creates a product difference like IIS5->II6 then things should be pretty darn good...

Are you planning on migrating before SP1?

no...most of our corp is on 2kPro still....

 

[Noema]

Originally posted by: kamper

Originally posted by: stash
Why anyone would pay to download a low quality DRM'ed music file when you can get a much higher quality, usually non-DRM'ed CD is beyond me.

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I feel like an old timer buying my music in the physical store, especially when the selection sucks so badly, but it still remains a far, far better deal than things like iTMS.

You are not alone. Every single album in my 200+ collection (which is all inside my HDD as lossless WMA) was bought at a store. I can't stand those crappy 128kbps songs, legal or not.