VISTA network and internet connection

mmc4587

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First off, what is with all the popups?
If clicking the OK button on a popup is proof that I want to perform an action, why the !@#$ wasn't it proof enough the first effing time I clicked? If the OK button is secure why can't the rest of the GUI options be secure? </rant>

Ok, I am not entirely uninitiated with vista. I have worked on other peoples' vista computers.
I know how to setup a home network (crossover cables) and use Internet Conneciton Sharing.

However, I can't get my personal PC to connect to the net.
Vista installs fine.
Vista says I have a network & internet connection (icon tray notification thingy: byte sent, bytes recieved look normal)
But I can't connect to the internet. When I run the diagnostic option it says "we are sorry there is a problem we cannot fix, please contact your isp, or change your proxy settings)

If I uninstall the network device I can't re-install it b/c the add new hardware wizard comes up blank, but when I restart the effing network device is still there and working just as before!

It is such a simple setup. Integrated NVIDIA Ethernet to Cable Modem. No router, no switches, no AP ...why can't I get this to work? AND why does it insist on being a "network" XP lists Internet connections different from Network connections.

Every little stinkin LINUX DISTRO can get me on the net with little to no hassle, why can't VISTA?????

...WTHeck?
 

Aberforth

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UAC isn't a mere popup- I've said this a dozen times here. It suspends the thread execution in the background requiring permission for elevated operations.

About your internet connection, just make sure TCP/IP v4 is configured properly in your network settings. May be it's unable to acquire IP address from ISP/Router/whatever.

Edit: Download and Install Network Drivers for manually from nv site
 

mmc4587

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elevated operations eh?
Doesn't change my point. If hitting OK on a UAC is deemed secure, why can't clicking on *.exe be secure?
Do I really think that some malicious hack/prog. inelligent enough to screw with my pc is going to be side tracked by a UAC? Come-on even I can run a script to emulate touching the space bar or enter key!!! ...or maybe I just don't understand (or maybe I don't care and would turn it off in a heart beat if I knew how). Oh, and by the by, linux distros have a UAC which requires the root/admin password, but not only is it intelligent (it doesn't ask every time I do any little thing, just with the important stuff) it is actually secure because it requires a password.

All of the TCP/IP protocols are checked. OH, and so far as I can tell you can't just pick your network device and modify the settings. You can't even run a network setup wizard like in XP.
How is it that one lone individual can create a linux distro like Xandros which will properly configure network settings every time, but the corporate giant MS can't?
 

Aberforth

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Originally posted by: mmc4587
elevated operations eh?
Doesn't change my point. If hitting OK on a UAC is deemed secure, why can't clicking on *.exe be secure?
Do I really think that some malicious hack/prog. inelligent enough to screw with my pc is going to be side tracked by a UAC? Come-on even I can run a script to emulate touching the space bar or enter key!!! ...or maybe I just don't understand (or maybe I don't care and would turn it off in a heart beat if I knew how). Oh, and by the by, linux distros have a UAC which requires the root/admin password, but not only is it intelligent (it doesn't ask every time I do any little thing, just with the important stuff) it is actually secure because it requires a password.

All of the TCP/IP protocols are checked. OH, and so far as I can tell you can't just pick your network device and modify the settings. You can't even run a network setup wizard like in XP.
How is it that one lone individual can create a linux distro like Xandros which will properly configure network settings every time, but the corporate giant MS can't?

Not all programs require access to kernel subsystem, so UAC requires confirmation to resume critical threads. btw UAC has stopped many malicious rootkit from hijacking windows. You cannot run macro scripts in the background with UAC, it's a process isolation - you wouldn't understand anyway.

Who said you can't run Network setup wizard in Vista? Just admit you dunno how to.

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7269/yrhfdhfsn8.jpg
 

Scotteq

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But I can't connect to the internet. When I run the diagnostic option it says "we are sorry there is a problem we cannot fix, please contact your isp, or change your proxy settings)


Most ISP's log devices which are authorized and not authorized to use their network. If your ISP is blocking your computer because it doesn't recognize your NIC then it isn't a Vista issue at all. Rather you should call your provider to have your computer registered and granted access. You know... Like the OS told you to do...
 

mmc4587

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The "network setup wizard" pic you posted is NOT a network setup wizard.
XP's is located in the control panel and allows you to change settings.

Vista's is just a pretty button that does everything on it's own.

And as far as ISP's loging devices...

I am on that PC right now... I can get on the net using XP, or any number of linux distros...
just not vista.
 

Scotteq

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Originally posted by: mmc4587
The "network setup wizard" pic you posted is NOT a network setup wizard.
XP's is located in the control panel and allows you to change settings.

Vista's is just a pretty button that does everything on it's own.

And as far as ISP's loging devices...

I am on that PC right now... I can get on the net using XP, or any number of linux distros...
just not vista.



I'm presuming you found the network icon in the system tray and right clicked it. Congratulations.

Since you apparently need guidance: Open Network Connections by clicking the Start button, clicking Control Panel, clicking Network and Internet, clicking Network and Sharing Center, and then clicking Manage network connections. Then right-click the connection, and then click Properties. You may need to provide your admin password.

Don't tell me it isn't there.