Vista . . . meh.

[Looney]

I have to say though, all that UAC prompting is driving me bonkers sometimes. I was deleting and moving mp3s around on my laptop... and i was prompted for every move and deletion!!!

And there's some commands in the commandline i can't do because i don't know how to get proper admin access... like 'ipconfig /flushdns'... says i don't have authority. They need some sort of sudo command that gives you admin rights for 5mins or something.

All this nagging for every thing you do is going to make people complacent or ignorant on how to actually use it. It's like a firewall that prompts the user all the time... eventually they're going to hit 'yes' to everything, which will defeat it's purpose.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: Brazen
I use linux, so I already have all those features.

We will be upgrading to Vista at work though. But not until after the server version is out and at least a service pack for it. I'll probably roll in the upgrade to the servers first, and then the workstations.

I'm like the complete opposite to you. I use Windows on my own stuff, but work is ALL linux. There's like 2 Win2k machines, but they'll be phasing out in the near future. All servers and workstations at work are some flavour of linux.

 

[stash]

And there's some commands in the commandline i can't do because i don't know how to get proper admin access... like 'ipconfig /flushdns'... says i don't have authority. They need some sort of sudo command that gives you admin rights for 5mins or something.

Right-click on the command shortcut in the start menu (or any shortcut) and click on 'run as administrator' The text is a little misleading, but run as administrator allows you to elevate whatever you are running.

I'm not sure if there is a way to do this from the command line, but I think there is. And no, it isn't runas.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: stash

And there's some commands in the commandline i can't do because i don't know how to get proper admin access... like 'ipconfig /flushdns'... says i don't have authority. They need some sort of sudo command that gives you admin rights for 5mins or something.

Right-click on the command shortcut in the start menu (or any shortcut) and click on 'run as administrator' The text is a little misleading, but run as administrator allows you to elevate whatever you are running.

I'm not sure if there is a way to do this from the command line, but I think there is. And no, it isn't runas.

Yeah, i know about that option. But i meant like in the command line.

 

[stash]

Well the answer I've gotten so far is to create a shortcut (something like elcmd.lnk) that points to cmd.exe. If you look at the properties for the shortcut under advanced, there is an option to run as a user. So from your command prompt run elcmd.lnk (you can put it in system32) and you'll be prompted to elevate.

I too wish there was something better though.

 

[Link19]

Vista is going to be a bigger change from XP than XP was from 98. The move to XP from 98 didn't really add too much actual functionality, it was more a stability/security upgrade. Just take a look at things like the file explorer in XP and 98, then Vista and XP. Do the same thing to the desktop, networking, backup system, admin system, display etc. Sure, XP was obviously an upgrade from 98 in many places, but not to the extent Vista will be from XP.

Finally Soviet is back to being against POS Windows 98/ME like he was a year ago. Windows XP brought a huge functionality upgrade over POS Windows 98/ME. It wasn't just an upgrade from POS Windows 98/ME to Windows XP, it was a significant requirement IMHO. In no WAY should DX9 have been released for POS Windows 98/ME. DX9 should have been for Windows 2000/XP/2003 and above only. How friggin sad is it that DX10 will be for Vista only and not XP while DX9 supported POS Windows 98/ME. It shoukd be the other way around becase Windows XP is already a good OS and still a Windows NT based OS. Vista will be a lot more like Windows 2000/XP than POS Windows 98/ME were ever like Windows 2000/XP.

Yes, Vista is a bigger upgrade from XO than XP was from Windows 2K. But IN NO WAY will Vista be a bigger upgrade from XP than XP was from POS Windows 98/ME. Because The change from POS Windows 98/ME to Windows XP, or at least Windows 2000 was far more than just an upgrade because Windows 98/ME were POS operating systems. Windows XP is a good OS, so people shouldn't be forced to upgrade so fast. On the other hand, POS Windows 98/ME should have died as soon as Windows XP was released.

 

[stash]

Next time, use a little more bold.

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: Link19

Vista is going to be a bigger change from XP than XP was from 98. The move to XP from 98 didn't really add too much actual functionality, it was more a stability/security upgrade. Just take a look at things like the file explorer in XP and 98, then Vista and XP. Do the same thing to the desktop, networking, backup system, admin system, display etc. Sure, XP was obviously an upgrade from 98 in many places, but not to the extent Vista will be from XP.

Finally Soviet is back to being against POS Windows 98/ME like he was a year ago. Windows XP brought a huge functionality upgrade over POS Windows 98/ME. It wasn't just an upgrade from POS Windows 98/ME to Windows XP, it was a significant requirement IMHO. In no WAY should DX9 have been released for POS Windows 98/ME. DX9 should have been for Windows 2000/XP/2003 and above only. How friggin sad is it that DX10 will be for Vista only and not XP while DX9 supported POS Windows 98/ME. It shoukd be the other way around becase Windows XP is already a good OS and still a Windows NT based OS. Vista will be a lot more like Windows 2000/XP than POS Windows 98/ME were ever like Windows 2000/XP.

Yes, Vista is a bigger upgrade from XO than XP was from Windows 2K. But IN NO WAY will Vista be a bigger upgrade from XP than XP was from POS Windows 98/ME. Because The change from POS Windows 98/ME to Windows XP, or at least Windows 2000 was far more than just an upgrade because Windows 98/ME were POS operating systems. Windows XP is a good OS, so people shouldn't be forced to upgrade so fast. On the other hand, POS Windows 98/ME should have died as soon as Windows XP was released.

OMFG
Would you like, fall off the planet and die? The original subject matter is about Vista.. not on your opinion on Windows 98, Windows 2000, Windows XP
Here we go again!!

 

[Link19]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: Link19

Vista is going to be a bigger change from XP than XP was from 98. The move to XP from 98 didn't really add too much actual functionality, it was more a stability/security upgrade. Just take a look at things like the file explorer in XP and 98, then Vista and XP. Do the same thing to the desktop, networking, backup system, admin system, display etc. Sure, XP was obviously an upgrade from 98 in many places, but not to the extent Vista will be from XP.

Finally Soviet is back to being against POS Windows 98/ME like he was a year ago. Windows XP brought a huge functionality upgrade over POS Windows 98/ME. It wasn't just an upgrade from POS Windows 98/ME to Windows XP, it was a significant requirement IMHO. In no WAY should DX9 have been released for POS Windows 98/ME. DX9 should have been for Windows 2000/XP/2003 and above only. How friggin sad is it that DX10 will be for Vista only and not XP while DX9 supported POS Windows 98/ME. It shoukd be the other way around becase Windows XP is already a good OS and still a Windows NT based OS. Vista will be a lot more like Windows 2000/XP than POS Windows 98/ME were ever like Windows 2000/XP.

Yes, Vista is a bigger upgrade from XO than XP was from Windows 2K. But IN NO WAY will Vista be a bigger upgrade from XP than XP was from POS Windows 98/ME. Because The change from POS Windows 98/ME to Windows XP, or at least Windows 2000 was far more than just an upgrade because Windows 98/ME were POS operating systems. Windows XP is a good OS, so people shouldn't be forced to upgrade so fast. On the other hand, POS Windows 98/ME should have died as soon as Windows XP was released.

OMFG
Would you like, fall off the planet and die? The original subject matter is about Vista.. not on your opinion on Windows 98, Windows 2000, Windows XP
Here we go again!!

I am merely correcting someone's post who incorrectly says that Vista is a bigger upgrade from XP than XP was from 98. Even the OP said the same thing. They just didn't go in to detail about what a POS OS Windows 98 was.

Windows 98 did not bring anything revolutionary to the community, Nothing more revolutionary than a good quality OS like Linux, OS/2 WARP, or Windows NT based operating systems could have brought to the table a heck of a lot better had it not been for Microsoft's dominance in the market place, or had Microsoft actually made the right decision to use the Windows NT kernel for all home consumer versions of Windows back in 1995.

 

[Genx87]

Not at first, but eventually there will be a reason I have to upgrade and I will. Until then it will be WinXP for me.

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: XMan

Originally posted by: loup garou
I will buy the upgrade for my MediaCenter as soon as CableCard HD tunercards are available. That's reason enough for me. For my desktop and laptop, well, I like the features, but will probably just wait and buy new machines with OEM copies on it...no rush. For my clients? It's gonna be a long time....let's see what Longhorn Server has to offer. Although I am super-excited about Exchange 12. Oh and I will get everyone on Office 2007 ASAP, it rocks.

I'd love to get CableCard as well but everything I'm reading says that you won't be able to buy one, you'll have to get it in a pre-packaged system. I'm not going to do that, when all I really need is to upgrade the hardware in my existing HTPC.

MS, ATI and CableLABS have been very vague about this...I'm worried too, but from what MCE team bloggers have been saying, MS is fighting for small OEMs and end users to be able to purchase and use the tuners (just that the hardware and software [vista] has to be "certified" by CableLABS). Keep your fingers crossed.