Originally posted by: kamper
Originally posted by: Link19
?This is a decision that the Media Player folks made because there are just too many ways right now for unsigned kernel mode code [to compromise content protection]. The media companies asked us to do this and said they don?t want any of their high definition content to play in x32 at all, because of all of the unsigned malware that runs in kernel mode can get around content protection, so we had to do this,?
What is it about 32-bit Vista that makes it so much easier to run unsigned kernel mode code that cannot be done in 64-bit Vista?
I thought the only difference between 32-bit and 64-bit is that 64-bit has a much larger addressable memory range and that more data can be processed in the CPU registers at once?
The supposed difference, if you actually read the article, is that by only allowing signed code in the 32 bit kernel they make all current drivers unusable (I guess most xp drivers will be usable in vista unmodified). But with 64-bit, they've mostly got a clean break where developers are going to have to fix drivers anyway so they may as well get them signed. Don't know how solid that reasoning is, but that's what the guy said.
YES.
It would break drivers to make them able to screw you over by restricting content. But with the 64bit version it will be different because they will take away your ability to copy digital media from the outset.
The reasoning that 32bit CPUs aren't capable of playing HD content is pure BS of the highest order. I can play HD-sized content just fine on my systems and none of them are running 64bit operating systems.
Right now you can go out and buy a HDTV capture card and playback content on your computer. Like this one:
http://www.pchdtv.com/hd_3000.html (that only supports Linux at the moment)
There are TWO things you need to keep in mind when trying to filter this press release stuff in order to try to extract what sort of truth that may lie at the core of it.
1. HDCP is a method that was created to use the cheapest hardware playback devices humanly possible to encrypt and decrypt 'protected' content. It's been cracked for YEARS. Seriously. It's completely been blown wide open by many multiple independant researchers.
The only reason people think it may work is because in the United States we are not allowed to talk about it due to the DMCA. DMCA is designed to prevent the people using the freedom of speech to tell each other how to screw hollywood over.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection
Do you want to steal HDCP content on put that stuff out on the internet?
Then buy this and figure out some way to smuggle into the country.
http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/21/the-clicker-hdcps-shiny-red-button/
2. Many people announced that for the time being they will be releasing HD content on discs for retail sale that will not use HDCP protections.
HDCP requires that you buy a new video card. That you buy a new computer motherboard. That you buy a new cpu. That you buy a new DVD-HD (or blueray or whatever the hell wins the 'hd' disc market). That you buy a new computer monitor or HD-TV.
All that means is that if they use HDCP nobody will actually buy it. It won't be any better then DVD for the vast majority of people irregardless if they own a regular TV or a HD TV.
Now for all of us buying 64bit machines... This means that even if your running 64bit vista there is a high chance that you still won't be able to play back HDCP protected content legally.
Understand? IF your running your current generation of 64bit machines with 64bit vista you still won't be able to play it back.
It won't be usefull until after Vista 64bit starts showing up in stores. The idea (I'm guessing) is that all OEMs like HP and Dell will be, buy that time, selling machines with the protected media paths nessicary to properly remove control from you and place it into the hands of anybody willing to pay license fees to Intel or whoever (namely hollywood, big tv stations, record companies, pornographers, etc etc)
It's all smoke and mirrors folks. You'll be able to play back HD content on your 32bit vista just fine because nobody will be using HDCP for a while. At least not if they wish to sell movies.
DRM, at least from the purpose of HDCP is already a failure. Maybe it will start to pick up in 2 or 3 years. I would expect so. (I still ain't going to buy any of that crap.)
And BTW. If Microsoft knew about the market and what the market demanded there wouldn't be Itunes. There wouldn't be the Ipod. Microsoft has already tried to get into that market and now they are locked out by Apple and the record label's greed. (they wanted to setup the licensing so that Microsoft would have to pay considurably more for their music then Apple does for Itunes. This is because when the Apple aquired contracts for all their music stuff the Recording Studios didn't understand the market either. So now they do and want to raise prices accordingly)
The real reason they probably aren't abandoning HDCP altogether is probably due to their business relationship with Intel.
The idea is that Intel would be able to sell all this new hardware for all these 'High Definition' media-enabled computers and such. So they figured if they implimented a tough-enough DRM standard it would attract hollywood to start doing major changes like streaming HD content over the itnernet to consumers. You know the INtel
'VII' and stuff like that.
Of course Holywood isn't going to like the fact then just anyone can turn around and let somebody redistribute their movies and such so things like DRM and HDCP is designed to entice Hollywood to play along. It's not so consumer.. it's to sucker Hollywood into using movies and such to help them sell hardware.
For the majority of people their 2 old computers with the 1.x ghz cpu is still plenty fast enough for them to do their work and play their little computer games. Sales are not going to be healthy for desktop makers. This is probably why notebook sales have surpassed desktop sales for a while now. Affordable notebooks are relatively new.
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