I have the PNY geforce3 ti/200. It's a great card, but NOT, I repeat, NOT 4ns ram like newegg says. Officially it is 5ns and PNY says you can get it up to 4ns speeds or whatever. The fastest i can get my ram to overclock to is 460mhz and 225 mhz gpu, so that's nowhere near 4ns ram speeds. the visiontek, if i remember correctly, is 4.5ns ram, so you should get better speeds off the visiontek. The PNY is a great card and well worth my 175 with freeshipping. My recommendation is get whichever is cheaper, which is probably the PNY. can't go wrong with either. But Visiontek does overclock very well, so it's up to you.