Virginia solid blue?

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

ProfJohn

Lifer
Jul 28, 2006
18,161
7
0
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: Genx87
McCain lost this race 3 weeks ago by going negative and stretching the truth. While they did this Obama picked it apart and twisted the sword. To make things worse this bailout is a boon to democrats. They are seen as better on domestic economic policy. Baring some miracle Obama is going to win. The only thing that has to be settled is how much of a majority will he have to work within congress.


No he lost it the second all the economic issues became the story. The MSM has put every single problem on McCain. It is the RNCs fault they had plenty of tape to make ads showing it was the democrats who ignored warnings about freddie and fannie. They ignored it now the presidental race is over.

stop trying to blame this on democrats blocking some bill in 2006, by then the damage was done. Action needed to be taken in 2003-2004, if not earlier.
Did you miss all the quotes from 2004 in which Democrats claim there are no problems??
 

quest55720

Golden Member
Nov 3, 2004
1,339
0
0
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: quest55720
Originally posted by: Genx87
McCain lost this race 3 weeks ago by going negative and stretching the truth. While they did this Obama picked it apart and twisted the sword. To make things worse this bailout is a boon to democrats. They are seen as better on domestic economic policy. Baring some miracle Obama is going to win. The only thing that has to be settled is how much of a majority will he have to work within congress.


No he lost it the second all the economic issues became the story. The MSM has put every single problem on McCain. It is the RNCs fault they had plenty of tape to make ads showing it was the democrats who ignored warnings about freddie and fannie. They ignored it now the presidental race is over.

stop trying to blame this on democrats blocking some bill in 2006, by then the damage was done. Action needed to be taken in 2003-2004, if not earlier.
Did you miss all the quotes from 2004 in which Democrats claim there are no problems??


They will just ignore all that because the democratic party can do no wrong. Most of them love this because it will help get thier guy elected. They don't care about people losing jobs or money they just want Obama elected at any cost.
 

ProfJohn

Lifer
Jul 28, 2006
18,161
7
0
For the record... McCain was leading on 9-16. That was only 3 weeks ago.

There are 4 weeks till the election so it is possible that McCain can still turn things around. It is almost certain that things will get tighter. Although I am not sure if McCain CAN pull off a victory.

I also think the most important number to look at in these polls is not the margin between the two, but the top number and whether it is over 50%. Despite McCain having the two worst weeks possible Obama is still barely getting to 50%. That implies that there is still a chance for McCain to climb back into the race, if he does it right.
 

quest55720

Golden Member
Nov 3, 2004
1,339
0
0
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
For the record... McCain was leading on 9-16. That was only 3 weeks ago.

There are 4 weeks till the election so it is possible that McCain can still turn things around. It is almost certain that things will get tighter. Although I am not sure if McCain CAN pull off a victory.

I also think the most important number to look at in these polls is not the margin between the two, but the top number and whether it is over 50%. Despite McCain having the two worst weeks possible Obama is still barely getting to 50%. That implies that there is still a chance for McCain to climb back into the race, if he does it right.


Come one it is time to face reality this election is over. It is time to start to prepare for a very hard 4 years of jimmy carter part 2. I am starting to look for a second job to get a nest egg to ride out 4 years of Obama/Pelosi.
 

Farang

Lifer
Jul 7, 2003
10,913
3
0
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
For the record... McCain was leading on 9-16. That was only 3 weeks ago.

There are 4 weeks till the election so it is possible that McCain can still turn things around. It is almost certain that things will get tighter. Although I am not sure if McCain CAN pull off a victory.

I also think the most important number to look at in these polls is not the margin between the two, but the top number and whether it is over 50%. Despite McCain having the two worst weeks possible Obama is still barely getting to 50%. That implies that there is still a chance for McCain to climb back into the race, if he does it right.

3/5 of the national polls released today on RCP have Obama at 53, 50, 52. The two relevant Virginia polls (there are two recent ones and the rest are fairly old) have him at 53 and 51. Now if you're knocking Obama because he can't break 60 I'll let you make that argument, otherwise what you're saying doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
 

jpeyton

Moderator in SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones
Moderator
Aug 23, 2003
25,375
142
116
Obama has The Boss stumping for him in swing-state PA and Ohio.

Ground game; using your best assets when it's time to close. Whatever your opinion of Springsteen may be, he's an American icon and can pull in vast crowds for free concerts/registration drives.

Jay-Z held a free concert for Barack in swing-state Florida this past Sunday. He's got Hollywood teen celebrities like Adam Brody and Kal Penn drawing crowds at college campuses for registration drives.

We're witnessing the most complete, most dominating political machine I've seen in recent memory. It's a thing of beauty to watch him pull away in the polls as McCain's campaign is on life support.
 

nageov3t

Lifer
Feb 18, 2004
42,808
83
91
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Obama has The Boss... Jay-Z... Adam Brody and Kal Penn.

We're witnessing the most complete political machine.

what a sad statement for political machinery
rose.gif
 

Farang

Lifer
Jul 7, 2003
10,913
3
0
Rasmussen: http://www.rasmussenreports.co..._presidential_election

Obama up 3 in Missouri
Obama up 2 in Virginia
Obama down 1 in Ohio
Obama up 7 in Florida

interesting disparity in the Virginia numbers.. I generally trust Rasmussen but that seems odd to have two outliers in one day coming out of there. Then again the Coleman/Franken debacle made me lose a lot of faith in state polling.
 

jpeyton

Moderator in SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones
Moderator
Aug 23, 2003
25,375
142
116
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Obama has The Boss... Jay-Z... Adam Brody and Kal Penn.

We're witnessing the most complete political machine.

what a sad statement for political machinery
rose.gif
I hear McCain rents out Bingo Halls during game night and puts a phone bank at each table.
 

Farang

Lifer
Jul 7, 2003
10,913
3
0
Originally posted by: TheSlamma
When do they post the counts of early voting? Still wait till Nov?

They don't post counts of Nov 4 voting until the polls close, so I wouldn't hold my breath.