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Wreckem

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: CellarDoor
Webb is now up 7811 with 9 precincts left. It looks like he may get over the 1/2 of 1% margin for an automatic recount
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I thought it was 1% for recount.

And where are you getting your numbers from? CNN still has it at 2700.
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CNN on TV doesnt have the most up to date numbers. There website does.
 
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CellarDoor

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: CellarDoor
Webb is now up 7811 with 9 precincts left. It looks like he may get over the 1/2 of 1% margin for an automatic recount
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I thought it was 1% for recount.

And where are you getting your numbers from? CNN still has it at 2700.
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I'm getting them from the official secretary of state website.

http://sbe.virginiainteractive.org/index.htm

Edit: Here is the same thing for MO.

It has McCaskill up 39092.

http://www.sos.mo.gov/enrweb/raceresults.asp?eid=189&oid=43310&arc=
 
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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: CellarDoor
Webb is now up 7811 with 9 precincts left. It looks like he may get over the 1/2 of 1% margin for an automatic recount
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I thought it was 1% for recount.

And where are you getting your numbers from? CNN still has it at 2700.
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.5% or less for an automatic recount initiated by the state. Less than 1%, the loser has to file a petition for a recount which is automatically granted.
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I believe if it's 0.5% or less state pays for recount, otherwise the sore loser has to pay.
 
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Wreckem

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Aisengard
Wow. Wowie wow wow, it looks like the Democrats could actually take control of the Senate. Can I say wow, what a night for the Democrats. Historic.
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It is historic in that it matches the average 6 year election vote.

The six year average since WW 2 has been 31? seats in the house and 6 or so in the Senate. Or something close to that.

Even Reagan lost more seats than the Republicans will this year, AND he lost 8 Senate seats.

I don't think we are anywhere near 1994. That was a 54 seat swing!!! Nearly double what we are seeing so far. And even if Dems end up 30 seats they would still be WAY below 1994.

Another big difference between today and 1994 is that in 1994 many Democrat leaders lost seats, including Foley, this year the Republican leadership has pretty much escaped damage.

It has been a good night for the Democrats, but let's not try and turn this victory into some historical victory.
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Uh ProfJohn, it is a historical victory. It DOES rank up there with the 1994 elections. Quit trying to downplay todays events.
 
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Wreckem

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: CellarDoor
Webb is now up 7811 with 9 precincts left. It looks like he may get over the 1/2 of 1% margin for an automatic recount
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I thought it was 1% for recount.

And where are you getting your numbers from? CNN still has it at 2700.
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.5% or less for an automatic recount initiated by the state. Less than 1%, the loser has to file a petition for a recount which is automatically granted.
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I believe if it's 0.5% or less state pays for recount, otherwise the sore loser has to pay.
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Nope not according to CNN, NBC, and FOX.
 
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slash196

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: CellarDoor
Webb is now up 7811 with 9 precincts left. It looks like he may get over the 1/2 of 1% margin for an automatic recount
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I thought it was 1% for recount.

And where are you getting your numbers from? CNN still has it at 2700.
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It's half a percent, but I would also like to know the source of these numbers.
 
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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Aisengard
Wow. Wowie wow wow, it looks like the Democrats could actually take control of the Senate. Can I say wow, what a night for the Democrats. Historic.
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It is historic in that it matches the average 6 year election vote.

The six year average since WW 2 has been 31? seats in the house and 6 or so in the Senate. Or something close to that.

Even Reagan lost more seats than the Republicans will this year, AND he lost 8 Senate seats.

I don't think we are anywhere near 1994. That was a 54 seat swing!!! Nearly double what we are seeing so far. And even if Dems end up 30 seats they would still be WAY below 1994.

Another big difference between today and 1994 is that in 1994 many Democrat leaders lost seats, including Foley, this year the Republican leadership has pretty much escaped damage.

It has been a good night for the Democrats, but let's not try and turn this victory into some historical victory.
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You dolt, it's historic because the Democrats will now have a majority in the House, Senate, and in the governorships. All three were previously held by Republicans by large margins. This is a HUGE swing in power. Anyone who doesn't see this as historic is clearly insane and far too partisan to be arguing with.
 
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Wreckem

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Originally posted by: slash196
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: CellarDoor
Webb is now up 7811 with 9 precincts left. It looks like he may get over the 1/2 of 1% margin for an automatic recount
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I thought it was 1% for recount.

And where are you getting your numbers from? CNN still has it at 2700.
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It's half a percent, but I would also like to know the source of these numbers.
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7815 with 99.63% reporting is from the SoS of VA.
 
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CellarDoor

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Originally posted by: slash196
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: CellarDoor
Webb is now up 7811 with 9 precincts left. It looks like he may get over the 1/2 of 1% margin for an automatic recount
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I thought it was 1% for recount.

And where are you getting your numbers from? CNN still has it at 2700.
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It's half a percent, but I would also like to know the source of these numbers.
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Check out the links to the secretary of state website I provided above.
 
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slash196

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The irony when we go into a recount will be that all the voting was done electronically. What are they going to recount? The machines are going to give you the same number no matter how many times you ask. I guess you could recount the paper ballots, but that's not really a significant section of the vote.
 
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Wreckem

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Originally posted by: slash196
The irony when we go into a recount will be that all the voting was done electronically. What are they going to recount? The machines are going to give you the same number no matter how many times you ask. I guess you could recount the paper ballots, but that's not really a significant section of the vote.
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It will be extremely hard for the republicans to say a democrat stole and election in a republican state.
 
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teiresias

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I actually voted with optical scan ballot so there is a paper trail for my vote at least.
 
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Ferocious

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looks like Webb by 7000 votes at the moment....down from 12000 a few minutes ago....
 
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Dean

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Originally posted by: Ferocious
looks like Webb by 7000 votes at the moment....down from 12000 a few minutes ago....
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back up to 11000 votes now ...bah...we must have different feeds, mine just went down to 7000 votes also. you are getting faster results
 
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Dean

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yeah i was going by the cnn feed. i was a few minutes behind you
 
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CNN reported that Allen was winning the military vote over Webb. I believe the percentage was something like Allen 53% vs. Webb 47%.
 
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FuzzyBee

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Aisengard
Wow. Wowie wow wow, it looks like the Democrats could actually take control of the Senate. Can I say wow, what a night for the Democrats. Historic.
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Dam right it's historic. The people have spoken. Let it be heard that this stranglehold on the House and Senate will be no more, it's time to rebuild to better times.
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It'll still be a stranglehold, just a different stranglehold.
 
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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Is this Florida 2000 all over? I know VA does not have the vote problems Florida had. But it looks like it will be with in a few thousand votes...
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Tells you a lot about the character of Virginia when a racist gets so many votes.
 
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Hossenfeffer

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Good night everyone. Our long national nightmare is over.
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As much as I'd like to think that, I'm catiously optimistic. I'm a tad embarrassed by all the "neener-neener" flinging so far. Was hoping we could keep that much out of it. It's a bit of a relief after 2004, however. I was so sure that people couldn't -truly- vote for Bush again. Boggled my mind...
 
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There was a Fox News analyst (Judge so and so) on the radio who said that Allen won't challenge the results since the difference is too big to be made up by a recount.
 
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